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On January 08 2007 11:31 CubEdIn[SoD] wrote:The zerg multi-hatch before units is a strategy I've seen in a BGHers vs mYm showmatch if I'm not mistaken, I'm not coming up with it. As for 14 nex vs terr, I don't see any actual issue with this, since it's a decent strat on any normal-expo map, except that on bgh you can still just defend your choke. You still cut probes on 14/15, but you gain a bigger advantage in early-mid game. It's not a stupid strat. Maybe it's not the optimum thing to do, but I was just sharing what I've noticed so far. It depends on your take to the game. There are a lot of small things we can argue about, but it's rather pointless. I don't know any good bgh players that I can train with, wanna go for a few games? 
Multiple hatches before units is not abnormal. Is that abnormal in a low money game? Am I missing something here? 4 hatches before units is abnormal. I don't think I've ever seen anyone do that. 3 hatch yes, 4 hatch no. If you can show me the replay that would be good. I'm not talking out of my ass; I've played a very large number of BGH games.
I do not wish to sound insulting, but I don't think that you saw someone make another nexus in their main to increase probe production, or if you did it was not the mym vs BGHers showmatch....unless they were fucking around. NOBODY would do that. This is not fastest. Your minerals are nowhere near fast enough to do that. If you try to make 2 nexus before you even do anything, you will be RAPED by a good BGHer. It is definitely not a good strat. You might be able to pull it off in a 1:1 vs a T (but that would be stupid as hell) but more than likely you'd die, and if you did that in a 3:3 your team would probably leave and say they didn't want such a newb on their team.
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On January 08 2007 05:43 _PulSe_ wrote:
Il play too if you want me. up to you.
And i already talked this out darknuxes. Why do we have to do this all over again. I never said all of them suck. I'm notgoing out and flaming them just to do it. In fact i tried to word my posts so they wouldn't come off right away as just another person trying to flame them. Of course there will always be people who develop into incredibly good gamers no matter what type you prefer, i was just saying that a majority of the games i join that are BGH i can take people on 3 at a time basicly. Its no offense to anybody.
the majority of pub games you join on ANY map is going to have bad players..i dont know why you feel the need to say that you can take on 3 pub BGHers at once. whats your point?? is it supposed to make yourself feel better since youre not a good player?
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The only reason i said that is because i have taken 3. Like i said, this isnt just flat out falming but from my experience, they can't micro worth shit. Plus i wasnt trying to put anybody down or anything. It was to make a point. Alot of you guys are two-faced. In some threads some of you will flame the hell out of somebody who makes a common mistake but then turn around a defend people after someone says something and try to make comebacks over stupid shit. ITS MY OPINION. I mean even when i try to cover my ass and say i'm not trying to be offensive or that i wasn't trying to completly generalize, there will always be somebody who takes it personally and try to make some stupid remark. Chill out.
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On January 08 2007 11:31 CubEdIn[SoD] wrote:
The zerg multi-hatch before units is a strategy I've seen in a BGHers vs mYm showmatch if I'm not mistaken, I'm not coming up with it.
bghers vs mym showmatch?
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At least someone is doing PP.
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Pulse, you are uninformed. You join random public bgher games and judge based on those experiences, yet you can join public regular maps and still make the same conclusions. Random players generally can't micro at all. Decent bghers know that, since generally ppp or pp is the best team on the map, that zealot micro and goon micro WIN games. Most any decent players can micro pretty efficiently.
For regular low maps, I'm willing to bet that a large portion of public players of those maps are just as bad as regular bgher players.
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bgh is basically all about non-tech units early game along with good micro and macro.
3 protoss is the obvious strongest races, but if you want to play with terran, it will be difficult, especially during early game when you don't have medics/stim, and progressing past m&m tech when toss has storm.
Playing with a zerg on your team (2p 1z vs 3 toss) is basically suicide provided the teams are balanced skill wise. you have to constantly make lings so your team doesn't get raped, while slipping in a drone here and there so you can slowly grow. even if you are able to successfully make drones, you will still have to rely on your teammates in mid & late game.
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On January 07 2007 11:10 DeadVessel wrote:your a waste of time cool that the community is being a bit more active, thx physician~
agreed
who cares, its not like bgh is anything like fastest, though you can camp in one base, and gosu sex micro are welcome any day
anyone wanna bother uploading the clips on youtube or something?
i dont feel like watching the reps =/
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I don't mean to offend you, Pulse, but dont you think you're making grossly incorrect conclusions here? I mean you're judging the entire BGH community based on some players you beat in a few pub games. Thats not saying much at all. I've won 1v2 on low maps playing pub countless times. Does that mean low players cant micro/macro for shit? No, of course not.
A good way to judge the skill of the average community would be to go to some regular clan channels. For BGH, thats marlboro/motel/op bghers/op x-men- etc etc.
I think someone from TL.net should keep count of all the volunteers, and maybe Manifesto7 should post a preferred format and maps. It doesnt matter if he posts it here or at bghers.com.
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Forum member vs forum member I would assess that the BGH community would win vs the tl.net community. (Discluding both sites well known players).
However, they are not as big, do not have the wide varieties of skill, thus are smaller and are more elite in general.
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Im going to get to work on this in the next day or two. I have been PMed by many people, so I think we will be able to fill all the rosters nicely.
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On January 08 2007 13:31 _PulSe_ wrote:
The only reason i said that is because i have taken 3. Like i said, this isnt just flat out falming but from my experience, they can't micro worth shit. Plus i wasnt trying to put anybody down or anything. It was to make a point. Alot of you guys are two-faced. In some threads some of you will flame the hell out of somebody who makes a common mistake but then turn around a defend people after someone says something and try to make comebacks over stupid shit. ITS MY OPINION. I mean even when i try to cover my ass and say i'm not trying to be offensive or that i wasn't trying to completly generalize, there will always be somebody who takes it personally and try to make some stupid remark. Chill out.
pulse, just bcuz you say youre not trying to be offensive and that youre not trying to generalize doesn't mean that you aren't.....it doesn't cover your ass after you do it. saying that you can join most games and take them 1v3 after you've done it once or a few times is a huge generalization.
and you can be flamed for your opinion, especially if its grossly uninformed. i dont see why people always say 'ITS MY OPINION' as if that protects them for having an ignorant opinion.
edit: join pub LT games and you'll see that no one can micro either. pub games are bad, whats your point?
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On January 08 2007 20:24 Manifesto7 wrote:
Im going to get to work on this in the next day or two. I have been PMed by many people, so I think we will be able to fill all the rosters nicely.
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On January 08 2007 21:40 YoiChiBow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2007 20:24 Manifesto7 wrote:
Im going to get to work on this in the next day or two. I have been PMed by many people, so I think we will be able to fill all the rosters nicely. ?
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On January 08 2007 20:10 ToT)Testie( wrote:
Forum member vs forum member I would assess that the BGH community would win vs the tl.net community. (Discluding both sites well known players).
However, they are not as big, do not have the wide varieties of skill, thus are smaller and are more elite in general.
Your refering to games on BGH, surely?
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On January 08 2007 21:40 YoiChiBow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2007 20:24 Manifesto7 wrote:
Im going to get to work on this in the next day or two. I have been PMed by many people, so I think we will be able to fill all the rosters nicely. ?
On January 08 2007 20:10 ToT)Testie( wrote:
Forum member vs forum member I would assess that the BGH community would win vs the tl.net community. (Discluding both sites well known players).
However, they are not as big, do not have the wide varieties of skill, thus are smaller and are more elite in general.
So basically, Mani is setting up a TL.net vs BGH community battle on, well, bgh.
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Uhh no.
Its a TL.net vs BGH community battle on both BGH and low maps.
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I assure you that some of the players from the BGH community who will field the low money division will be B+ to A ranking on PGT level. That's assuming that they are able to make it (we are a fairly small community).
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Nexus, it is just for fun, and will just be with regular forum members. If they send their best, that is fine, but isnt really what the point of the idea was.
I mean, I assure you, that some players from TL are A+ PGT. So what.
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