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DarK]N[exuS
China1441 Posts
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Insane
United States4991 Posts
On January 08 2007 20:10 ToT)Testie( wrote: Forum member vs forum member I would assess that the BGH community would win vs the tl.net community. (Discluding both sites well known players). However, they are not as big, do not have the wide varieties of skill, thus are smaller and are more elite in general. Sounds like I'll need to practice then ;D T_T I hate practicing, it's more fun playing random UMSes. I'd kind of rather play them on BGH than low money actually, I play more BGH than non these days... | ||
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psychosis
Sweden107 Posts
Some of them seem to have huge difficulties to understand its supposed to be regular forum members and not the "elite". Also the fact that it is supposed to be forum members seem difficult for some to grasp. They ask if they can bring their regular teammates from outside of site. And here we are lining up a bunch of actuall regulars that never even seen each other play, much less played together. At least I haven't, except for some TMM with Insane. Haha. Gonna be interesting. And they talking about maps and stuff as well. Seem like maps will be an issue. Oh. I refuse to play Luna by the way. Not even if you pay me. Maybe we should missinterpret the agreement and field our top noch and their outside allies as well? Gogo Testie!! And don't forget to bring your former clanmate Nal_rA.  | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
i might want to participate heh | ||
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
On January 09 2007 02:48 psychosis wrote: Hmm. I just been browsing through the threads about this showmatch on BGHers.com and dude, these guys are taking this way to seriously. Some of them seem to have huge difficulties to understand its supposed to be regular forum members and not the "elite". Also the fact that it is supposed to be forum members seem difficult for some to grasp. They ask if they can bring their regular teammates from outside of site. And here we are lining up a bunch of actuall regulars that never even seen each other play, much less played together. At least I haven't, except for some TMM with Insane. Haha. Gonna be interesting. And they talking about maps and stuff as well. Seem like maps will be an issue. Oh. I refuse to play Luna by the way. Not even if you pay me. Maybe we should missinterpret the agreement and field our top noch and their outside allies as well? Gogo Testie!! And don't forget to bring your former clanmate Nal_rA. Your post is correct only on one point: that this showmatch is more important for the BGH community. After all, the OSL, MSL, Proleague, WCG, WGTour, PGT etc etc aren't on BGH. That does NOT mean they're putting out their best possible team. Its been made clear that this is a showmatch between regular forum members (ie whoever volunteers), and that hDn members will NOT take part. They've set up a registration page (I'm surprised you missed that, the sign for that is HUGE), and everyone and anyone is encourage to sign up and play. Teams will be made depending on the number of players that eventually sign up, and absolutely no preference will be given to better players. Also, pretty much the only low map BGH players are familiar with is Luna. So it would be really unfair to exclude it, unless, ofcourse, they themselves offer to do so. I suggested some older maps thinking they might have at least seen a few reps on them, but do you know what they said? That they'd rather play on the newest maps, even if they lost badly. They're entering this showmatch purely for the experience, and certainly not to win. And its not like TL.net is fielding their weakest team. I'm not aware of all the volunteers thus far, but I do know Cloud and Insane have come forward, and as far as I know they're pretty strong players. I've already spoken to Mani and I invited him to choose the format and maps. He, of course, was gracious enough to ask for the input of bghers.com as well, as he wanted this to be as fair and as enjoyable an experience as possible. Eventhough BGH players who haven't registered on the site aren't technically allowed to participate in this tournament, I personally dont see the harm in that. After all, TeamLiquid has been around for years and practically anyone who can play a bit has registered here. 24,000 members I think. Bghers.com, on the other hand, is in its infancy, and is still trying to get word of its inception around. It has only - and brace yourself for this - roughly 350 members. Its obvious that with such a massive pool of players, teamliquid will have absolutely no problem in coming up with a team. In fact, they'll probably have too many, and some will have to sit it out. Testie is already playing vs koolam, I believe he mentioned that either in this thread or some other. There is no doubt that bghers.com is taking this more seriously than TL.net, but not for the reasons you think. They don't want to make sure they win and create a "name" for themselves or show you guys up. No, not at all. They are very aware of the fact that this showmatch means exposure for them. Their main goals are to field a team of whomever volunteers, to interact with the TL.net players, and initiate a camaraderie between the two sites. | ||
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
On January 09 2007 02:59 alffla wrote: hmmm mani when will these be and will they all be team games ( 2v2, 3v3, 4v4? ) i might want to participate heh There will be 1on1s both on BGH and on low maps. This further goes to show that bghers.com is trying to be as sporty as possible. 95% of BGH players dont play 1on1, and the 5% that do, play it only 5% of the time. | ||
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borg
171 Posts
On January 09 2007 02:48 psychosis wrote: Some of them seem to have huge difficulties to understand its supposed to be regular forum members and not the "elite". Also the fact that it is supposed to be forum members seem difficult for some to grasp. They ask if they can bring their regular teammates from outside of site. And here we are lining up a bunch of actuall regulars that never even seen each other play, much less played together. At least I haven't, except for some TMM with Insane. Maybe we should missinterpret the agreement and field our top noch and their outside allies as well? Gogo Testie!! And don't forget to bring your former clanmate Nal_rA. Way to escalate the issue, bud. have you ever thought that maybe because there are no actual "news or official announcements" about the showmatch, that a few people might just get some misconceptions on what the showmatch is about? not every member in bghers know about this thread just as not every member in tl know about the thread in bghers. So why dont you give em a bit of slack and let things develop a bit instead of trying to ruin things for everyone all around. if you truly want to be completely impartial, you might also want to mention the other comments in the very same thread that reiterate mani's original intention. Unless, your ulterior motive is really not to follow the wishes that mani initially set out. This showmatch announcement is hardly a day old, give it some time for people to pass the news around, official announcements, rules, formats all formalized, then judge. | ||
intrigue
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
You also have to realize that the low map community being much, much larger means that they have a greater number of top tier players. In the BGH community, only two clans are considered top tier (hDn and the project-x/q team), and neither will be participating. | ||
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
There was ONE mention of POSSIBLY recruiting a BGH player who wasn't registered on the site, and this is the response it got: "T.C)ToR.TeD( this suppose to be fun games... and both tl.net and bghers.com said to use their REGULAR forum users..." "Surado you should have read the post manifesto made . It doesn't state they want the best we have to offer, it actually says not the professions just the regular members for some fun games. We should stick to what has been asked and use regular members only. As i am aware they are not putting only their best players in." "Ah, yea I see what you mean. If they put their best member. Ah Jesus ^^;" These are some other comments: "Sounds like it will be a lot of fun tho and hopefully a good mixing between the two communities and not about who sucks and who doesn't." "lol im overwhelmed by the sheer number of people who responded, thank you! if you look at it from a percentage of the total population that's not too shabby at all. if worst comes to worst, we can even use a variant of the randomizer to determine who plays, after all its a friendly match. seriously though, id like to get as many people involved as possible, you guys deserve the best" "Sounds fun , i think that every1 that wishes to play should post a post here and we'll draw straws on who gets to play!! Must be fair! Afterall everyone of you are regular forum users!" About choosing the teams, the following post was made by the admin: "we'll have a true forum X vs forum Y showmatch divided into two categories since some of us are exclusive BGH players and others are multitalented. first, you decide which team you want to be in. BGH only or low-money (or both). This guarantees that you'll get to play what you signed up for. second, when TL calls for a BGH showmatch, we'll run a randomizer script to pick out the players/teams from the BGH pool. likewise for low money, when TL calls for low money. I'm not sure how TL is gonna organize their guys, they can follow our model or just be a big mob, I think our system should work irrespective." This is a forum member expressing his will to play, but a little unsure because he feels he isn't too good: "I will play if simply to represent. My skills are < Rain,Surado,Free i.e but I am good mannered and play a reasonably good game on BGH and hunts. I will pair up in team games with anyone as well if they need someone. I am best at 3v3 team games and average at 2v2 and 1v1 games. If you do not want me to play because of my skill level thats ok too. I am a big boy and can take constructive criticism and rejection lol. I just enjoy playing and can be on almost any night available to others." This is the response he got: "ha dont worry, our goal here is to try to include everyone. we're not out to destroy the TL folks, its simply a friendly match to promote more dialogue and goodwill btwn the two communities. that said, we'll def pull out our secret weapons from kazakhstan at the last minute, we just wont tell the TL folks about until its too late for them to adjust " There was ONE suggestion of koolam playing, and this was the response: "We cant pick koolam because they already know hDn are the best BGH team, and they've clearly stated they want a showmatch between regular forum members." This is a discussion between two forum members regarding the choice of maps: Memeber A: Also it would be more fun if all our matches for low maps weren't on luna. Why dont you people start giving suggestions about other low maps we could include? Make sure you know them a bit though. I'd especially like to see the suggestions of RaiN and Surado in this regard. I dont think we'll have any problems at all coming up with players for our BGH matches. Member B: Maps shouldn't be only on Luna, but I think it should be played in different map. My optimum choice would be Longinus 2, Peaks of Baekdu, Reverse Temple, Big Game Hunters, The Hunters KPGA or The Huntress. Member A: I doubt anyone other than you and Rain (and me, but I'm not playing) would be familiar with more recent pro maps like longinus. Maybe we should stick to slightly older maps, theres a better chance that some BGHers will be familiar with them. These are the maps that come to mind: azalea blade storm lost temple luna gaema gowon dahlia of jungle gaia guillotine incubus nostalgia paranoid android Requiem Rush Hour Ride of Valkyries R Point Member B: Hmm.. No Loki, I think we should play the new maps. They don't play BGH regularly too? And although we are doing a good friendly showmatch, it is true that some of the Tl.net members think we are some noob that don't play low money map. So I strongly suggest that we play the newer maps. A couple of games with the background of good experience in low money map would easily allow the player to adapt to these maps. Member A: Thats a good point. How about we mix it up? A couple of new maps (longinus, baekdu), and a couple of relatively old maps (eg from the list I provided). Also bear in mind they'll have suggestions too, so its not like we're choosing all the low maps. This conversation was followed by bghers.com inviting Manifesto to choose the maps. He, of course, wouldn't have any of that, and asked for our suggestions as well. In the end I believe we will decide on a map pool that is acceptable to both teams and fun to play on. These posts should make it abundantly clear that your impression that bghers.com is out to win this at all cost is COMPLETELY incorrect. | ||
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psychosis
Sweden107 Posts
First Gandalf. No, I didn't click thier sign-up list. Yes I saw the link. I didnt check it because I would have no idea who they are anyways. It was just the impression I got from reading the threads that some seem to think it's a "we must win this prestigiuos (s?) event!". And some others in thread pointed out its a for fun showmatch. Yes, I saw that. About who their players will be I really don't care. If they want to field thier best and some outsiders, I have no problem with that. I want to participate anyways because I think it will be fun and it could be a chance to bring the sites and the community closer together. That Testie and Nal_rA comment was meant as a joke. Perhaps you didn't get that. Or I was just fussy. If so I apologize. The Luna comment was also a personal opinion. I meant that I will not play on it. At least not 1v1. If their and our players want it in the map pool thats perfectly fine. I can always command my forces on some other map, right? borg: Ofcourse I don't have some ulteriour motive not to follow Manis initial wishes. His idea was why I thought this would be a really fun thing and why I want to be a part of it. And as I said, I saw posts in their thread explaining Manis idea as well. Also I see why this can be a bigger deal for them, since BGHers usually are treated as newbs and idiots by low money players, as you can see in other posts in this thread. However, thats not how I feel at all. But I never said that they all are out to try and win this at all costs My previous post was not meant as condencending or anything like that. Just pointing out that some of them wanted to pull out the best can can possibly offer. Saw you made more posts while I was typing this Gandalf. All I can say is chill man. I'm not stupid. I can read. And yes i read the entire thread. Perhaps YOU are the one taking this way to serious? Sorry for causing even more confusion and missunterstandings. I'll shut up now. | ||
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
 ). It did occur to me that your post was mere raillery, but there was still a slight possibility that it was serious opinion, so I couldn't take the risk of letting it go. I felt I had to clear the misconceptions lest other TL.net members harbor them as well.My posts can now serve the purpose of hopefully clearing up any misapprehensions any TL.net member might have. Cheerio! | ||
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littlechava
United States7221 Posts
On January 08 2007 01:08 Manifesto7 wrote: So Far: psychosis chiflutz ~Legit~ have all signed up to play. We probably need a few more. If it is the right timezone I want to go, but how about you nexus? Anyways, for a fun friendly showmatch, come represent TL.net! wait, are signups still open? | ||
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
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tOOkOmA4U
Germany253 Posts
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borg
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Pika Chu
Romania2510 Posts
only 2v2+++ is fun :/ | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36379 Posts
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tOOkOmA4U
Germany253 Posts
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