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crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
December 27 2014 10:02 GMT
#1
Hey I'm trying out broodwar, I haven't really played competitively before.

When I select an hotkey then press right click button, it doesn't allow me to select another hotkey for a little moment. It's hard to explain but if I just spam 5rclick-6rclick-7rclick quickly, it will not rally properly my hatcheries.

In sc2, let's say you have muta on 3 and lings on 1, you can just spam 1-3 and click somewhere and both control groups will go, as both were selected individually multiple times, but in bw there seems to be a delay. This slows me down quite a bit actually. I fast in star2 but I feel like my apm does not transfer properly to BW (obviously need more practice). Does anyone have an advice on that or do you really need to work around the delay and be slower when controlling your army?

Thanks for the read, it's 5am here so hopefully tomorrow morning I'll figure it out!
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-27 10:25:17
December 27 2014 10:20 GMT
#2
in BW if you press keyboard and mouse at the same time,
keyboard input will be ignored.

you are spamming your right mouse button hence you could not select your hatch control groups as the spamming blocks your keyboard input
you have to press them in order correctly
5-rclick-6-rclick-7-rclick

theres a fix for it in mcalauncher if im not wrong
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 27 2014 11:14 GMT
#3
How do I set it? I have this problem too
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
December 27 2014 11:16 GMT
#4
on the mca screen click on the settings button for shitty plugin, then check "fix lost keyboard input"
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
December 27 2014 11:30 GMT
#5
thx for the thread, otherwise i wouldnt have found out that there is a fix
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
December 27 2014 11:31 GMT
#6
On December 27 2014 20:30 Bakuryu wrote:
thx for the thread, otherwise i wouldnt have found out that there is a fix


wait really lol
i thought mca told everyone
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6180 Posts
December 27 2014 11:35 GMT
#7
yeah the problem propably is that you actually have them pushed down simultaneously, when you actually should click one button first, and release it before clicking another one.
sas.Sziky
Profile Joined October 2011
Hungary331 Posts
December 27 2014 12:26 GMT
#8
On December 27 2014 20:16 Probemicro wrote:
on the mca screen click on the settings button for shitty plugin, then check "fix lost keyboard input"



this is legal? oo
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-27 13:05:30
December 27 2014 12:46 GMT
#9
On December 27 2014 21:26 sas.Sziky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2014 20:16 Probemicro wrote:
on the mca screen click on the settings button for shitty plugin, then check "fix lost keyboard input"



this is legal? oo


Not for offline lan/competitions probably
Not sure about iccup, do they disallow this?
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5198 Posts
December 27 2014 12:53 GMT
#10
On December 27 2014 20:16 Probemicro wrote:
on the mca screen click on the settings button for shitty plugin, then check "fix lost keyboard input"

Wow. This is huge. I doubt it would be allowed on ICCup/Fish, I don't think it should be.
FBH #1!
Plissken_2097
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Spain628 Posts
December 27 2014 13:18 GMT
#11
It could also be windows 7 issues, if you are on windows 7 of course:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/108172-windows-7-sc-lag
Formerly Golondrin
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
December 27 2014 13:41 GMT
#12
On December 27 2014 22:18 Golondrin wrote:
It could also be windows 7 issues, if you are on windows 7 of course:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/108172-windows-7-sc-lag


Pretty sure another one of MCA options already fixed this
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3343 Posts
December 27 2014 22:20 GMT
#13
Thank you so much for this thread. I have this problem alot when doing 1a2a3a4a lol and my #2 control group never moves. I think its cause how fast I go from 1a2a to 3a4a.
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crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
December 27 2014 23:36 GMT
#14
im getting used to the control delay actually it isn't so bad, you just can't spam mindlessly

Also every time i finish a game my client crashes so it's hard for me to whisper people after games, Hola at me Attackzerg!
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10686 Posts
December 28 2014 00:21 GMT
#15
wow, never knew about this...thanks
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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-28 00:42:00
December 28 2014 00:41 GMT
#16
i won't use that feature until it's clear to me if it IS legal by iccup or not. great work though ^-^
Broodwar for life!
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10686 Posts
December 28 2014 01:54 GMT
#17
On December 28 2014 09:41 Cele wrote:
i won't use that feature until it's clear to me if it IS legal by iccup or not. great work though ^-^


Will iCCup IPBan, Ban account, or ban CDKey? If it was Ban CDKey that wouldn't be a big deal as you can just get a different free one anytime, Account wouldn't be that big of a deal, IPBan would suck.
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jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6639 Posts
December 28 2014 01:59 GMT
#18
On December 28 2014 10:54 GGzerG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2014 09:41 Cele wrote:
i won't use that feature until it's clear to me if it IS legal by iccup or not. great work though ^-^


Will iCCup IPBan, Ban account, or ban CDKey? If it was Ban CDKey that wouldn't be a big deal as you can just get a different free one anytime, Account wouldn't be that big of a deal, IPBan would suck.

You don't even need a CD key to play on iccup and I'm pretty sure it's allowed on iccup, I didn't even know what that feature did until reading this thread.
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10686 Posts
December 28 2014 03:46 GMT
#19
On December 28 2014 10:59 jello_biafra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2014 10:54 GGzerG wrote:
On December 28 2014 09:41 Cele wrote:
i won't use that feature until it's clear to me if it IS legal by iccup or not. great work though ^-^


Will iCCup IPBan, Ban account, or ban CDKey? If it was Ban CDKey that wouldn't be a big deal as you can just get a different free one anytime, Account wouldn't be that big of a deal, IPBan would suck.

You don't even need a CD key to play on iccup and I'm pretty sure it's allowed on iccup, I didn't even know what that feature did until reading this thread.



hmm but don't you need a cdkey to install SC in the first place? Was just saying that any cdkey will work on iccup. :-P
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6180 Posts
December 28 2014 04:09 GMT
#20
On December 28 2014 12:46 GGzerG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2014 10:59 jello_biafra wrote:
On December 28 2014 10:54 GGzerG wrote:
On December 28 2014 09:41 Cele wrote:
i won't use that feature until it's clear to me if it IS legal by iccup or not. great work though ^-^


Will iCCup IPBan, Ban account, or ban CDKey? If it was Ban CDKey that wouldn't be a big deal as you can just get a different free one anytime, Account wouldn't be that big of a deal, IPBan would suck.

You don't even need a CD key to play on iccup and I'm pretty sure it's allowed on iccup, I didn't even know what that feature did until reading this thread.



hmm but don't you need a cdkey to install SC in the first place? Was just saying that any cdkey will work on iccup. :-P

no
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
December 28 2014 06:25 GMT
#21
On December 28 2014 07:20 Yaqoob wrote:
Thank you so much for this thread. I have this problem alot when doing 1a2a3a4a lol and my #2 control group never moves. I think its cause how fast I go from 1a2a to 3a4a.


Maybe you did too fast between your left fingers and right fingers.

1aclick 2a 3aclick 4aclick

You need rhythm.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
January 14 2015 19:32 GMT
#22
Alright so I finally reached C level on iccup after about a hundred games, but I've only played like 10ish ZvZs

Any zerg on TL want to practice with me?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43350 Posts
January 14 2015 19:39 GMT
#23
On December 28 2014 10:54 GGzerG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2014 09:41 Cele wrote:
i won't use that feature until it's clear to me if it IS legal by iccup or not. great work though ^-^


Will iCCup IPBan, Ban account, or ban CDKey? If it was Ban CDKey that wouldn't be a big deal as you can just get a different free one anytime, Account wouldn't be that big of a deal, IPBan would suck.

They would cityban. Why not?
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oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5784 Posts
January 14 2015 19:44 GMT
#24
Yep this delay exists and is another random problem associated with how old BW is. It was discussed a while back that you can alleviate most of the problem with expensive high-end equipment or a simple script.

You can learn you can separate your actions so they're clear and don't overlap but the game will always be working against you.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
January 14 2015 20:05 GMT
#25
yeah oBlade I've been launching the game via mca64 and running the "Fix lost keyboard input" in the "ShittyPlugin" options. Seems to be working fine. It's mostly a question of habbit too. As LaStScan said, it's a question of rhythm!
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
January 14 2015 20:12 GMT
#26
crbox hit me up. I play z a lot but I always dodge zvz and need to learn it.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
January 15 2015 00:08 GMT
#27
On January 15 2015 04:44 oBlade wrote:
expensive high-end equipment


er i doubt that. in fact a lot of ex-pros still use ancient/non-"gaming" equipment
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5784 Posts
January 15 2015 04:34 GMT
#28
On January 15 2015 09:08 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 04:44 oBlade wrote:
expensive high-end equipment


er i doubt that. in fact a lot of ex-pros still use ancient/non-"gaming" equipment

Oh I would look quite the fool if I had said something to contradict that.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
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