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Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States777 Posts
June 09 2003 16:15 GMT
#21
also you have to consider race to race percentages.

t>z and z> p and t = p for most part...p has to be really creative to win...but slight edge might be to t. now you know why terran seem to have an adv. zerg not far behind.

if blizz is to balance..they need to consider race to race matchups.
i like cheese
AK-Nemesis
Profile Joined December 2002
2005 Posts
June 09 2003 16:29 GMT
#22
dumb thread IMHO
Nemesis has left the building~
MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
June 09 2003 16:32 GMT
#23
Fuck,

if there were no Boxer and Nada, zerg players would own the top of the ladder. What would you say then? Zerg is strongest race (just look at Yellow and Chojja)? Just because there are like 5 extremely talented terran players in the world who happen to own everyone else doesn't make terran the strongest race.

Boxer and Nada are the main imbalances in the game, not the race. Yes.
n8f8
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom222 Posts
June 09 2003 16:52 GMT
#24
Well, perhaps nada and boxer are the best players not because of their race, but because of their skills and determination. Boxer was #1 when every other T was getting raped..... Imagine boxer/nada as a Z or P...Scary shit
the only thing we can do is smile :)
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
June 10 2003 19:49 GMT
#25
On June 09 2003 15:14 Terranix wrote:
as you can see in lots TvP matchs, Protoss can never make it without desperatly making carriers. that's why blizzard was thinking to strengthen Protoss in the coming version of SC.


They want to strengthen Protoss cuz there's a severe inbalance against zerg. Top protoss players have recently shown that they can do pretty dam nwell against terran ie ForU vs Nada. Plus, MPXMX is right, Nada and Boxer are the only terran players to be doing consistently well. Just cuz they're on top, doesn't mean the race is better. Look at who's advance in the OGN team leauges. An ALL ZERG soul team.
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
z7-RaiN
Profile Joined January 2003
United States522 Posts
June 10 2003 19:51 GMT
#26
On June 09 2003 15:04 Yarertz wrote:
haha lol form where are you? circus?


ahahahahaha
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Kobayashi
Profile Joined February 2003
Portugal1970 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-06-11 13:27:31
June 10 2003 20:57 GMT
#27
[QUOTE]On June 09 2003 15:14 Terranix wrote:
as you can see in lots TvP matchs, Protoss can never make it without desperatly making carriers.[\QUOTE]

Terrans can never make it without deseperatly making tanks too...nice point u made there
I love mankind, its people I hate
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
June 10 2003 22:39 GMT
#28
On June 09 2003 15:03 ShAsTa wrote:
you're an idiot

you're Belgian
Moderator
Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States777 Posts
June 10 2003 22:48 GMT
#29
the reason why toss lose is they dont do anything special.

if you followed great players like pillars (one of best tacticians imho) and gad....

people dont divert away from 2 gate. if you watched them play...they never did two gate. they did 1 gate to reaver...quick nexus. they sair/dt. they fotoned and carriered it up. there had to be 7-8 different build orders (more than any other race) that you can do effectively.

try it one time. 1 gate zealots and reaver. protect cliff on LT. then drop them. they'd have to fight it off with hydras...there's no way they can get to mutas in time...its proven unless they start off with quick muta in mind first.

then micro it. sure the cooldown is in play...but youc an really hurt them if you know how to micro it.

try dt/sair? its not great...but hey...sometimes it catches people off guard. suppose a sauron styule zerg...he'lll never make nothing more than lings. fotoning up and carriering is not bad either against zerg. carrier with proper back up is good. its bad against lings/ultras and scourge...but if you protect it well enough...u'll win easily.

and against terran. every heard of the stove? it can really put enemy in bad position. try it.
i like cheese
Imperium
Profile Joined December 2002
United States614 Posts
June 10 2003 22:54 GMT
#30
On June 11 2003 04:51 z7-RaiN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2003 15:04 Yarertz wrote:
haha lol form where are you? circus?


ahahahahaha


was it really that funny? :'(
such an oob!! go back to diablo
Grotfang
Profile Joined May 2003
Belgium490 Posts
June 11 2003 05:20 GMT
#31
On June 11 2003 07:39 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2003 15:03 ShAsTa wrote:
you're an idiot

you're Belgian



he's 14 too
No plz only LT.. no not TvT.. no.. ok cancel?
ShAsTa
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium2841 Posts
June 11 2003 06:03 GMT
#32
grot u talking to me?
I'm not 14.
If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
June 11 2003 06:04 GMT
#33
On June 11 2003 07:48 Phanekim wrote:
the reason why toss lose is they dont do anything special.

if you followed great players like pillars (one of best tacticians imho) and gad....

people dont divert away from 2 gate. if you watched them play...they never did two gate. they did 1 gate to reaver...quick nexus. they sair/dt. they fotoned and carriered it up. there had to be 7-8 different build orders (more than any other race) that you can do effectively.

try it one time. 1 gate zealots and reaver. protect cliff on LT. then drop them. they'd have to fight it off with hydras...there's no way they can get to mutas in time...its proven unless they start off with quick muta in mind first.

then micro it. sure the cooldown is in play...but youc an really hurt them if you know how to micro it.

try dt/sair? its not great...but hey...sometimes it catches people off guard. suppose a sauron styule zerg...he'lll never make nothing more than lings. fotoning up and carriering is not bad either against zerg. carrier with proper back up is good. its bad against lings/ultras and scourge...but if you protect it well enough...u'll win easily.

and against terran. every heard of the stove? it can really put enemy in bad position. try it.




What the hell are you talking about?
are you saying pro gamer protoss players dont "mix it up" ?
wtf?
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
June 11 2003 06:08 GMT
#34
Phanekim you are a newbie.
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
Wizzra
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands514 Posts
June 11 2003 09:17 GMT
#35
On June 11 2003 15:08 Twisted wrote:
Phanekim you are a newbie.


thanks for informing us
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rOm
Profile Joined December 2002
Latvia1208 Posts
June 11 2003 09:21 GMT
#36
On June 09 2003 15:03 ShAsTa wrote:
you're an idiot

Good point
My RSX owns yours.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 11 2003 09:26 GMT
#37
On June 11 2003 07:48 Phanekim wrote:
the reason why toss lose is they dont do anything special.

if you followed great players like pillars (one of best tacticians imho) and gad....

people dont divert away from 2 gate. if you watched them play...they never did two gate. they did 1 gate to reaver...quick nexus. they sair/dt. they fotoned and carriered it up. there had to be 7-8 different build orders (more than any other race) that you can do effectively.

try it one time. 1 gate zealots and reaver. protect cliff on LT. then drop them. they'd have to fight it off with hydras...there's no way they can get to mutas in time...its proven unless they start off with quick muta in mind first.

then micro it. sure the cooldown is in play...but youc an really hurt them if you know how to micro it.

try dt/sair? its not great...but hey...sometimes it catches people off guard. suppose a sauron styule zerg...he'lll never make nothing more than lings. fotoning up and carriering is not bad either against zerg. carrier with proper back up is good. its bad against lings/ultras and scourge...but if you protect it well enough...u'll win easily.

and against terran. every heard of the stove? it can really put enemy in bad position. try it.


Watch nal_ra play, watch reach play (not as much as nal_ra), watch garimto, intotherain
Foreign top protosses usually doesn't mix it up that much. But that is because if you want to do a build you will almost always have to time it, which is something you do through playing, a lot I mean you can't just do different builds without timing them (trust me I know ).
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
June 11 2003 13:13 GMT
#38
This thread is fucking quote wars.
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-06-11 13:23:43
June 11 2003 13:22 GMT
#39
I have rarely ever seen a korean progamer go 2 gate vs a pro zerg player on their level... And when I do, they generally lose. Rep to prove me wrong anyone?

Edit: Cheezes don't count... :p
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
Bl[a]Ze
Profile Joined June 2003
Canada111 Posts
June 11 2003 13:25 GMT
#40
On June 11 2003 22:13 MPXMX wrote:
This thread is fucking quote wars.


ur stupid, QUOTE WARS! -.
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