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How to watch stuff in portrait mode on Gom Exp?
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Isn't someone gonna restream it anyways like we do with OSL, MSL, Proleague, SSL, etc?
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On February 15 2014 07:38 hydrogg wrote:
Isn't someone gonna restream it anyways like we do with OSL, MSL, Proleague, SSL, etc?
People always restream, but GOM will be one of the restreamers
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On February 15 2014 02:22 Ender2701 wrote:
This is a way to push their Android platform, the goal is introduce push more users to the Android app which they think is high quality and not used enough right now. Obviously foreigners are not the main audience, but in Korea, Samsung Android products are very popular, so this won't affect viewership much there.
The culture over there actually loves watching things on their phone, in Korea you can buy phones that come with TV on them, and if you remember John's talk about how the shift towards mobile phones had hurt the growth if sc2, etc. I'm actually not surprised at this move by GOM, and I think you all need to take a step back and recognize it's not so bad.
The tech industry is really pushing mobile right now, so lots of people are trying to get their audiences to convert and get product loyalty early on.
Sure that's the beauty of Koreans being able to take advantage of using the DMB to watch tv anywhere you are. You don't need 3g,4g, different flavors of LTE or even wifi to watch live tv like the rest of the world. You can even watch live tv in a taxi if a DMB antennae is fixed on the car. So I can understand this is what they need to do for their domestic market. The problem this causes for a global broadcasting company, like gom, is that their content doesn't reach their entire audience that buys passes and adds to their overall viewership. It's like after all these years of support we've given them they are slapping us in the face and saying the foreign market isn't important enough. They should do both and broadcast with no blackouts. Seems like they are going full retard with this to me and you never want to go full retard.
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Wow. Way to hype a tournament only to basically surrender credit for helping the BW scene to Sonic and the other "amateur" casters and players who actually know how to run tournaments and get people watching.
Still, money is involved. Maybe that'll impress enough simple types to get them watching anyway.
I suppose the viewing issue will be much less of a problem for people actually in Korea, because a larger portion of them would actually choose andriod supporting devices, right?
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On February 15 2014 05:32 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 04:05 CYfiri wrote:On February 15 2014 03:43 Thieving Magpie wrote:On February 15 2014 03:12 farvacola wrote:On February 15 2014 02:22 Ender2701 wrote:
This is a way to push their Android platform, the goal is introduce push more users to the Android app which they think is high quality and not used enough right now. Obviously foreigners are not the main audience, but in Korea, Samsung Android products are very popular, so this won't affect viewership much there.
The culture over there actually loves watching things on their phone, in Korea you can buy phones that come with TV on them, and if you remember John's talk about how the shift towards mobile phones had hurt the growth if sc2, etc. I'm actually not surprised at this move by GOM, and I think you all need to take a step back and recognize it's not so bad.
The tech industry is really pushing mobile right now, so lots of people are trying to get their audiences to convert and get product loyalty early on. Telling a bunch of fans that have just been told that they must own and use a specific mobile device to watch their favorite game to "take a step back" is pretty dumb. Yes, and telling a country that uses technology differently than your country "pretty dumb" is elitist bullshit, but lets just call a spade a spade shall we. GOM is trying to make their Korean fans happy, if Foreign fans made them money they'd be willing to help them too. But its obvious a Korean company would focus more on Korean practices than it does non-Korean practices. Yeah because it is not like you can use more then one way to let people watch your content and please everyone including everyone in Korea... And its not like GOM is trying to push their specific product line instead of simply publishing into a generalized market space--oh right! They are pushing a specific product line, their product line. They are trying to create a successful mobile app which is the current technological trend amongst software and marketing companies and is where all the money is flowing through when it comes through adspace and revenue tracking. But no, white guy from across the pond wants Asians to cater to his needs and wants.
There is adspace and revenue tracking on normal TV and streams to you know. One does not have to exclude the other.
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I think it's unfair how GOM pays afreeca to plaster GSL all over the front page of afreeca and gives high quality and 5000 person capacity rooms but for BW we are only give the option to watch on mobile phones. And I have an iphone too :l gonna try out bluestacks I guess.
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On February 15 2014 09:05 CYfiri wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 05:32 Thieving Magpie wrote:On February 15 2014 04:05 CYfiri wrote:On February 15 2014 03:43 Thieving Magpie wrote:On February 15 2014 03:12 farvacola wrote:On February 15 2014 02:22 Ender2701 wrote:
This is a way to push their Android platform, the goal is introduce push more users to the Android app which they think is high quality and not used enough right now. Obviously foreigners are not the main audience, but in Korea, Samsung Android products are very popular, so this won't affect viewership much there.
The culture over there actually loves watching things on their phone, in Korea you can buy phones that come with TV on them, and if you remember John's talk about how the shift towards mobile phones had hurt the growth if sc2, etc. I'm actually not surprised at this move by GOM, and I think you all need to take a step back and recognize it's not so bad.
The tech industry is really pushing mobile right now, so lots of people are trying to get their audiences to convert and get product loyalty early on. Telling a bunch of fans that have just been told that they must own and use a specific mobile device to watch their favorite game to "take a step back" is pretty dumb. Yes, and telling a country that uses technology differently than your country "pretty dumb" is elitist bullshit, but lets just call a spade a spade shall we. GOM is trying to make their Korean fans happy, if Foreign fans made them money they'd be willing to help them too. But its obvious a Korean company would focus more on Korean practices than it does non-Korean practices. Yeah because it is not like you can use more then one way to let people watch your content and please everyone including everyone in Korea... And its not like GOM is trying to push their specific product line instead of simply publishing into a generalized market space--oh right! They are pushing a specific product line, their product line. They are trying to create a successful mobile app which is the current technological trend amongst software and marketing companies and is where all the money is flowing through when it comes through adspace and revenue tracking. But no, white guy from across the pond wants Asians to cater to his needs and wants. There is adspace and revenue tracking on normal TV and streams to you know. One does not have to exclude the other.
And there's a reason that Gom isn't knocking on Hulu's door to trying to convince them that SC2 will generate massive bank for them.
Companies choose how to focus their product and if their product is a phone app it is against their best interest to not push their phone app which they have paid engineers to design, develop, implement, and fucking support.
The amount of entitlement people have now a days. As someone even said earlier in this thread--you can run the app on your PC. You can, right now, watch the games live ON YOUR PC. The only limiting factor is your lazy ass not wanting to get the app.
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So they are prostituting BW to boost cpm for all the ads they run on the mobile device?
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On February 15 2014 09:19 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 09:05 CYfiri wrote:On February 15 2014 05:32 Thieving Magpie wrote:On February 15 2014 04:05 CYfiri wrote:On February 15 2014 03:43 Thieving Magpie wrote:On February 15 2014 03:12 farvacola wrote:On February 15 2014 02:22 Ender2701 wrote:
This is a way to push their Android platform, the goal is introduce push more users to the Android app which they think is high quality and not used enough right now. Obviously foreigners are not the main audience, but in Korea, Samsung Android products are very popular, so this won't affect viewership much there.
The culture over there actually loves watching things on their phone, in Korea you can buy phones that come with TV on them, and if you remember John's talk about how the shift towards mobile phones had hurt the growth if sc2, etc. I'm actually not surprised at this move by GOM, and I think you all need to take a step back and recognize it's not so bad.
The tech industry is really pushing mobile right now, so lots of people are trying to get their audiences to convert and get product loyalty early on. Telling a bunch of fans that have just been told that they must own and use a specific mobile device to watch their favorite game to "take a step back" is pretty dumb. Yes, and telling a country that uses technology differently than your country "pretty dumb" is elitist bullshit, but lets just call a spade a spade shall we. GOM is trying to make their Korean fans happy, if Foreign fans made them money they'd be willing to help them too. But its obvious a Korean company would focus more on Korean practices than it does non-Korean practices. Yeah because it is not like you can use more then one way to let people watch your content and please everyone including everyone in Korea... And its not like GOM is trying to push their specific product line instead of simply publishing into a generalized market space--oh right! They are pushing a specific product line, their product line. They are trying to create a successful mobile app which is the current technological trend amongst software and marketing companies and is where all the money is flowing through when it comes through adspace and revenue tracking. But no, white guy from across the pond wants Asians to cater to his needs and wants. There is adspace and revenue tracking on normal TV and streams to you know. One does not have to exclude the other. And there's a reason that Gom isn't knocking on Hulu's door to trying to convince them that SC2 will generate massive bank for them. Companies choose how to focus their product and if their product is a phone app it is against their best interest to not push their phone app which they have paid engineers to design, develop, implement, and fucking support. The amount of entitlement people have now a days. As someone even said earlier in this thread--you can run the app on your PC. You can, right now, watch the games live ON YOUR PC. The only limiting factor is your lazy ass not wanting to get the app.
Winnar!!!!!
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I've been trying to get bluestacks to work but im really unfamiliar with android settings. Does anyone know how you set up keyboards to be able to type in korean?
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you know what I've been thinking about. I think someone mentioned it earlier in the thread but someone who is able to run it well enough on their android phone can easily link it to their pc so that they can watch it there then they can stream that like normal. I don't see it as being much of a problem and it would help those who can't watch it on their phones or who just don't want to bother with it. I have an android phone but I don't have space left to install more apps so I guess I'll be waiting for english vods to come out.
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On February 15 2014 12:30 JohnChoi wrote:
I've been trying to get bluestacks to work but im really unfamiliar with android settings. Does anyone know how you set up keyboards to be able to type in korean?
You have to chose Korean language in the keyboard settings, if it's not available you can download a third party keyboard app like go keyboard.
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On February 15 2014 20:12 RouaF wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 12:30 JohnChoi wrote:
I've been trying to get bluestacks to work but im really unfamiliar with android settings. Does anyone know how you set up keyboards to be able to type in korean? You have to chose Korean language in the keyboard settings, if it's not available you can download a third party keyboard app like go keyboard.
ya the korean wouldnt show up on the keyboard settings I'll get that third party app then. thank you!
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So... Why are people freaking out that they have to wait 3 days to watch the VODs?
It will only suck if someone doing BW news on TL doesn't have the sense to keep spoilers off the front page.
I admit I don't understand why GOM would want to do it this way from their own perspective, but it's at worst mildly inconvenient and realistically what I was going to do anyway. I have an android phone and I'm not going to bother installing I random app lol. I'll just wait for the VODs on the youtube account.
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On February 15 2014 09:19 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 09:05 CYfiri wrote:On February 15 2014 05:32 Thieving Magpie wrote:On February 15 2014 04:05 CYfiri wrote:On February 15 2014 03:43 Thieving Magpie wrote:On February 15 2014 03:12 farvacola wrote:On February 15 2014 02:22 Ender2701 wrote:
This is a way to push their Android platform, the goal is introduce push more users to the Android app which they think is high quality and not used enough right now. Obviously foreigners are not the main audience, but in Korea, Samsung Android products are very popular, so this won't affect viewership much there.
The culture over there actually loves watching things on their phone, in Korea you can buy phones that come with TV on them, and if you remember John's talk about how the shift towards mobile phones had hurt the growth if sc2, etc. I'm actually not surprised at this move by GOM, and I think you all need to take a step back and recognize it's not so bad.
The tech industry is really pushing mobile right now, so lots of people are trying to get their audiences to convert and get product loyalty early on. Telling a bunch of fans that have just been told that they must own and use a specific mobile device to watch their favorite game to "take a step back" is pretty dumb. Yes, and telling a country that uses technology differently than your country "pretty dumb" is elitist bullshit, but lets just call a spade a spade shall we. GOM is trying to make their Korean fans happy, if Foreign fans made them money they'd be willing to help them too. But its obvious a Korean company would focus more on Korean practices than it does non-Korean practices. Yeah because it is not like you can use more then one way to let people watch your content and please everyone including everyone in Korea... And its not like GOM is trying to push their specific product line instead of simply publishing into a generalized market space--oh right! They are pushing a specific product line, their product line. They are trying to create a successful mobile app which is the current technological trend amongst software and marketing companies and is where all the money is flowing through when it comes through adspace and revenue tracking. But no, white guy from across the pond wants Asians to cater to his needs and wants. There is adspace and revenue tracking on normal TV and streams to you know. One does not have to exclude the other. And there's a reason that Gom isn't knocking on Hulu's door to trying to convince them that SC2 will generate massive bank for them. Companies choose how to focus their product and if their product is a phone app it is against their best interest to not push their phone app which they have paid engineers to design, develop, implement, and fucking support. The amount of entitlement people have now a days. As someone even said earlier in this thread--you can run the app on your PC. You can, right now, watch the games live ON YOUR PC. The only limiting factor is your lazy ass not wanting to get the app.
No the limiting factor is the fact that. OUR LAZY ASSES didn't even necessarily know that the app works on PC without fancy work arounds. You know they could have easily said in that little press release that the app is PC compatible. It's their stupidity that brought all this drama.
Seriously I'm completely okay with having to use a program of their choosing on my PC to watch, but in the press statement they made it seem as if it's android exclusive.
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On February 16 2014 00:31 Chef wrote:
So... Why are people freaking out that they have to wait 3 days to watch the VODs?
It will only suck if someone doing BW news on TL doesn't have the sense to keep spoilers off the front page.
I admit I don't understand why GOM would want to do it this way from their own perspective, but it's at worst mildly inconvenient and realistically what I was going to do anyway. I have an android phone and I'm not going to bother installing I random app lol. I'll just wait for the VODs on the youtube account.
"Gom exp android app will be the one and only broadcast platform for the tournament, and otherwise, fans need to watch VODs which will be uploaded three days later." - Does this statement give any inkling that the app is PC compatible?
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On February 16 2014 02:30 thezanursic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 09:19 Thieving Magpie wrote:On February 15 2014 09:05 CYfiri wrote:On February 15 2014 05:32 Thieving Magpie wrote:On February 15 2014 04:05 CYfiri wrote:On February 15 2014 03:43 Thieving Magpie wrote:On February 15 2014 03:12 farvacola wrote:On February 15 2014 02:22 Ender2701 wrote:
This is a way to push their Android platform, the goal is introduce push more users to the Android app which they think is high quality and not used enough right now. Obviously foreigners are not the main audience, but in Korea, Samsung Android products are very popular, so this won't affect viewership much there.
The culture over there actually loves watching things on their phone, in Korea you can buy phones that come with TV on them, and if you remember John's talk about how the shift towards mobile phones had hurt the growth if sc2, etc. I'm actually not surprised at this move by GOM, and I think you all need to take a step back and recognize it's not so bad.
The tech industry is really pushing mobile right now, so lots of people are trying to get their audiences to convert and get product loyalty early on. Telling a bunch of fans that have just been told that they must own and use a specific mobile device to watch their favorite game to "take a step back" is pretty dumb. Yes, and telling a country that uses technology differently than your country "pretty dumb" is elitist bullshit, but lets just call a spade a spade shall we. GOM is trying to make their Korean fans happy, if Foreign fans made them money they'd be willing to help them too. But its obvious a Korean company would focus more on Korean practices than it does non-Korean practices. Yeah because it is not like you can use more then one way to let people watch your content and please everyone including everyone in Korea... And its not like GOM is trying to push their specific product line instead of simply publishing into a generalized market space--oh right! They are pushing a specific product line, their product line. They are trying to create a successful mobile app which is the current technological trend amongst software and marketing companies and is where all the money is flowing through when it comes through adspace and revenue tracking. But no, white guy from across the pond wants Asians to cater to his needs and wants. There is adspace and revenue tracking on normal TV and streams to you know. One does not have to exclude the other. And there's a reason that Gom isn't knocking on Hulu's door to trying to convince them that SC2 will generate massive bank for them. Companies choose how to focus their product and if their product is a phone app it is against their best interest to not push their phone app which they have paid engineers to design, develop, implement, and fucking support. The amount of entitlement people have now a days. As someone even said earlier in this thread--you can run the app on your PC. You can, right now, watch the games live ON YOUR PC. The only limiting factor is your lazy ass not wanting to get the app. No the limiting factor is the fact that. OUR LAZY ASSES didn't even necessarily know that the app works on PC without fancy work arounds. You know they could have easily said in that little press release that the app is PC compatible. It's their stupidity that brought all this drama. Seriously I'm completely okay with having to use a program of their choosing on my PC to watch, but in the press statement they made it seem as if it's android exclusive.
cmon guys, let's not fight over this lol. You both present valid points. GOM should've been more forward about the app and that you can watch it on your PC from the app but at the same time, if someone is still interested in watching, they would've at least download the program and given it a try to see what features are available. One of my first thoughts when I read this after 'why would they make it mobile exclusive?' was what if you can just watch it on your PC through your phone since I've been able to do it with some other devices in the past (wm 6.5 phone). I wouldn't expect everyone to know that you are able to do that but it's nothing to get riled up over imo although language could've been phrased better on Magpie's part I'll admit 
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On February 16 2014 02:54 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2014 02:30 thezanursic wrote:On February 15 2014 09:19 Thieving Magpie wrote:On February 15 2014 09:05 CYfiri wrote:On February 15 2014 05:32 Thieving Magpie wrote:On February 15 2014 04:05 CYfiri wrote:On February 15 2014 03:43 Thieving Magpie wrote:On February 15 2014 03:12 farvacola wrote:On February 15 2014 02:22 Ender2701 wrote:
This is a way to push their Android platform, the goal is introduce push more users to the Android app which they think is high quality and not used enough right now. Obviously foreigners are not the main audience, but in Korea, Samsung Android products are very popular, so this won't affect viewership much there.
The culture over there actually loves watching things on their phone, in Korea you can buy phones that come with TV on them, and if you remember John's talk about how the shift towards mobile phones had hurt the growth if sc2, etc. I'm actually not surprised at this move by GOM, and I think you all need to take a step back and recognize it's not so bad.
The tech industry is really pushing mobile right now, so lots of people are trying to get their audiences to convert and get product loyalty early on. Telling a bunch of fans that have just been told that they must own and use a specific mobile device to watch their favorite game to "take a step back" is pretty dumb. Yes, and telling a country that uses technology differently than your country "pretty dumb" is elitist bullshit, but lets just call a spade a spade shall we. GOM is trying to make their Korean fans happy, if Foreign fans made them money they'd be willing to help them too. But its obvious a Korean company would focus more on Korean practices than it does non-Korean practices. Yeah because it is not like you can use more then one way to let people watch your content and please everyone including everyone in Korea... And its not like GOM is trying to push their specific product line instead of simply publishing into a generalized market space--oh right! They are pushing a specific product line, their product line. They are trying to create a successful mobile app which is the current technological trend amongst software and marketing companies and is where all the money is flowing through when it comes through adspace and revenue tracking. But no, white guy from across the pond wants Asians to cater to his needs and wants. There is adspace and revenue tracking on normal TV and streams to you know. One does not have to exclude the other. And there's a reason that Gom isn't knocking on Hulu's door to trying to convince them that SC2 will generate massive bank for them. Companies choose how to focus their product and if their product is a phone app it is against their best interest to not push their phone app which they have paid engineers to design, develop, implement, and fucking support. The amount of entitlement people have now a days. As someone even said earlier in this thread--you can run the app on your PC. You can, right now, watch the games live ON YOUR PC. The only limiting factor is your lazy ass not wanting to get the app. No the limiting factor is the fact that. OUR LAZY ASSES didn't even necessarily know that the app works on PC without fancy work arounds. You know they could have easily said in that little press release that the app is PC compatible. It's their stupidity that brought all this drama. Seriously I'm completely okay with having to use a program of their choosing on my PC to watch, but in the press statement they made it seem as if it's android exclusive. cmon guys, let's not fight over this lol. You both present valid points. GOM should've been more forward about the app and that you can watch it on your PC from the app but at the same time, if someone is still interested in watching, they would've at least download the program and given it a try to see what features are available. One of my first thoughts when I read this after 'why would they make it mobile exclusive?' was what if you can just watch it on your PC through your phone since I've been able to do it with some other devices in the past (wm 6.5 phone). I wouldn't expect everyone to know that you are able to do that but it's nothing to get riled up over imo although language could've been phrased better on Magpie's part I'll admit
I will concede that my frustration got the better of me
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On February 16 2014 03:23 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2014 02:54 BigFan wrote:On February 16 2014 02:30 thezanursic wrote:On February 15 2014 09:19 Thieving Magpie wrote:On February 15 2014 09:05 CYfiri wrote:On February 15 2014 05:32 Thieving Magpie wrote:On February 15 2014 04:05 CYfiri wrote:On February 15 2014 03:43 Thieving Magpie wrote:On February 15 2014 03:12 farvacola wrote:On February 15 2014 02:22 Ender2701 wrote:
This is a way to push their Android platform, the goal is introduce push more users to the Android app which they think is high quality and not used enough right now. Obviously foreigners are not the main audience, but in Korea, Samsung Android products are very popular, so this won't affect viewership much there.
The culture over there actually loves watching things on their phone, in Korea you can buy phones that come with TV on them, and if you remember John's talk about how the shift towards mobile phones had hurt the growth if sc2, etc. I'm actually not surprised at this move by GOM, and I think you all need to take a step back and recognize it's not so bad.
The tech industry is really pushing mobile right now, so lots of people are trying to get their audiences to convert and get product loyalty early on. Telling a bunch of fans that have just been told that they must own and use a specific mobile device to watch their favorite game to "take a step back" is pretty dumb. Yes, and telling a country that uses technology differently than your country "pretty dumb" is elitist bullshit, but lets just call a spade a spade shall we. GOM is trying to make their Korean fans happy, if Foreign fans made them money they'd be willing to help them too. But its obvious a Korean company would focus more on Korean practices than it does non-Korean practices. Yeah because it is not like you can use more then one way to let people watch your content and please everyone including everyone in Korea... And its not like GOM is trying to push their specific product line instead of simply publishing into a generalized market space--oh right! They are pushing a specific product line, their product line. They are trying to create a successful mobile app which is the current technological trend amongst software and marketing companies and is where all the money is flowing through when it comes through adspace and revenue tracking. But no, white guy from across the pond wants Asians to cater to his needs and wants. There is adspace and revenue tracking on normal TV and streams to you know. One does not have to exclude the other. And there's a reason that Gom isn't knocking on Hulu's door to trying to convince them that SC2 will generate massive bank for them. Companies choose how to focus their product and if their product is a phone app it is against their best interest to not push their phone app which they have paid engineers to design, develop, implement, and fucking support. The amount of entitlement people have now a days. As someone even said earlier in this thread--you can run the app on your PC. You can, right now, watch the games live ON YOUR PC. The only limiting factor is your lazy ass not wanting to get the app. No the limiting factor is the fact that. OUR LAZY ASSES didn't even necessarily know that the app works on PC without fancy work arounds. You know they could have easily said in that little press release that the app is PC compatible. It's their stupidity that brought all this drama. Seriously I'm completely okay with having to use a program of their choosing on my PC to watch, but in the press statement they made it seem as if it's android exclusive. cmon guys, let's not fight over this lol. You both present valid points. GOM should've been more forward about the app and that you can watch it on your PC from the app but at the same time, if someone is still interested in watching, they would've at least download the program and given it a try to see what features are available. One of my first thoughts when I read this after 'why would they make it mobile exclusive?' was what if you can just watch it on your PC through your phone since I've been able to do it with some other devices in the past (wm 6.5 phone). I wouldn't expect everyone to know that you are able to do that but it's nothing to get riled up over imo although language could've been phrased better on Magpie's part I'll admit I will concede that my frustration got the better of me
ya, no worries ^^ Happens to the best of us
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