On November 19 2013 02:21 Dragoons wrote: Someone has tried to keep a score on Bisu's games, I have no idea how accurate this is, but I know it is not complete. From afreeca: vs Killer 6:2 vs Hero 13:5 vs Larva14:5 vs s2 2:0 vs Terror 3:0 vs Zero 8:4 vs Mind 3:2 vs Piano 8:2 vs Sea 5:3 vs Hiya 4:2 vs Mong 15:3 vs Shinee 8:0 vs ssak 8:0 vs Pure 1:0 vs Movie 1:2 vs Brave 1:0 vs Jaehoon 1:0 vs Tyson 1:0
if this is accurate, damn. bisu jumps right back into bw, and bw puts him right back to where he belongs. it's kind of amazing how the game produces such consistent results in terms of player hierarchy, especially compared to sc2.
Watch Mind + ZerO picking up their games. Bisu lost left and right in the beginning. And as far as my memory serves me, ZerO had Bisu's numbers in the Kespa days.
ZerO's play is kind of strange, especially watching it from his fps. I kind of get the same feeling from ssak and Tyson, where their play is generally very sloppy, but in the end, they just plow through everything despite the minor disadvantages.
I love ZerO's three base aggressive ZvP btw.
I feel that those are the "architect" players that set up some type of trap and when its time to go, its time to go.
Those players bear resemblance to Russian generals in WW2 that were sloppy in the beginning but then at important front of Stallingrad, they push everything they go and as you said "plow" through everything.
Bisu is akin to the Carthaginian General Hannibal that make sure that he gets every single advantage as possible to build up a huge momentum and go for the final swing.
Other type of players consists of the Hitler archetype that goes for extreme aggression in hoping to end in the early game a la Blitzkrieg (Shine/Turn) or the Sun Tzu philosophical type based upon mind game and deception such as Flash, Effort, and Boxer.
Man this is making me fall in love with BW all over again<3
On November 19 2013 02:21 Dragoons wrote: Someone has tried to keep a score on Bisu's games, I have no idea how accurate this is, but I know it is not complete. From afreeca: vs Killer 6:2 vs Hero 13:5 vs Larva14:5 vs s2 2:0 vs Terror 3:0 vs Zero 8:4 vs Mind 3:2 vs Piano 8:2 vs Sea 5:3 vs Hiya 4:2 vs Mong 15:3 vs Shinee 8:0 vs ssak 8:0 vs Pure 1:0 vs Movie 1:2 vs Brave 1:0 vs Jaehoon 1:0 vs Tyson 1:0
if this is accurate, damn. bisu jumps right back into bw, and bw puts him right back to where he belongs. it's kind of amazing how the game produces such consistent results in terms of player hierarchy, especially compared to sc2.
Watch Mind + ZerO picking up their games. Bisu lost left and right in the beginning. And as far as my memory serves me, ZerO had Bisu's numbers in the Kespa days.
ZerO's play is kind of strange, especially watching it from his fps. I kind of get the same feeling from ssak and Tyson, where their play is generally very sloppy, but in the end, they just plow through everything despite the minor disadvantages.
I love ZerO's three base aggressive ZvP btw.
I feel that those are the "architect" players that set up some type of trap and when its time to go, its time to go.
Those players bear resemblance to Russian generals in WW2 that were sloppy in the beginning but then at important front of Stallingrad, they push everything they go and as you said "plow" through everything.
Bisu is akin to the Carthaginian General Hannibal that make sure that he gets every single advantage as possible to build up a huge momentum and go for the final swing.
Other type of players consists of the Hitler archetype that goes for extreme aggression in hoping to end in the early game a la Blitzkrieg (Shine/Turn) or the Sun Tzu philosophical type based upon mind game and deception such as Flash, Effort, and Boxer.
Man this is making me fall in love with BW all over again<3
By your logic Bisu is brilliant but screwed by his race and Shine is the enemy of all mankind.
On November 19 2013 02:21 Dragoons wrote: Someone has tried to keep a score on Bisu's games, I have no idea how accurate this is, but I know it is not complete. From afreeca: vs Killer 6:2 vs Hero 13:5 vs Larva14:5 vs s2 2:0 vs Terror 3:0 vs Zero 8:4 vs Mind 3:2 vs Piano 8:2 vs Sea 5:3 vs Hiya 4:2 vs Mong 15:3 vs Shinee 8:0 vs ssak 8:0 vs Pure 1:0 vs Movie 1:2 vs Brave 1:0 vs Jaehoon 1:0 vs Tyson 1:0
if this is accurate, damn. bisu jumps right back into bw, and bw puts him right back to where he belongs. it's kind of amazing how the game produces such consistent results in terms of player hierarchy, especially compared to sc2.
Watch Mind + ZerO picking up their games. Bisu lost left and right in the beginning. And as far as my memory serves me, ZerO had Bisu's numbers in the Kespa days.
ZerO's play is kind of strange, especially watching it from his fps. I kind of get the same feeling from ssak and Tyson, where their play is generally very sloppy, but in the end, they just plow through everything despite the minor disadvantages.
I love ZerO's three base aggressive ZvP btw.
I feel that those are the "architect" players that set up some type of trap and when its time to go, its time to go.
Those players bear resemblance to Russian generals in WW2 that were sloppy in the beginning but then at important front of Stallingrad, they push everything they go and as you said "plow" through everything.
Bisu is akin to the Carthaginian General Hannibal that make sure that he gets every single advantage as possible to build up a huge momentum and go for the final swing.
Other type of players consists of the Hitler archetype that goes for extreme aggression in hoping to end in the early game a la Blitzkrieg (Shine/Turn) or the Sun Tzu philosophical type based upon mind game and deception such as Flash, Effort, and Boxer.
Man this is making me fall in love with BW all over again<3
By your logic Bisu is brilliant but screwed by his race and Shine is the enemy of all mankind.
On November 19 2013 02:21 Dragoons wrote: Someone has tried to keep a score on Bisu's games, I have no idea how accurate this is, but I know it is not complete. From afreeca: vs Killer 6:2 vs Hero 13:5 vs Larva14:5 vs s2 2:0 vs Terror 3:0 vs Zero 8:4 vs Mind 3:2 vs Piano 8:2 vs Sea 5:3 vs Hiya 4:2 vs Mong 15:3 vs Shinee 8:0 vs ssak 8:0 vs Pure 1:0 vs Movie 1:2 vs Brave 1:0 vs Jaehoon 1:0 vs Tyson 1:0
if this is accurate, damn. bisu jumps right back into bw, and bw puts him right back to where he belongs. it's kind of amazing how the game produces such consistent results in terms of player hierarchy, especially compared to sc2.
Watch Mind + ZerO picking up their games. Bisu lost left and right in the beginning. And as far as my memory serves me, ZerO had Bisu's numbers in the Kespa days.
ZerO's play is kind of strange, especially watching it from his fps. I kind of get the same feeling from ssak and Tyson, where their play is generally very sloppy, but in the end, they just plow through everything despite the minor disadvantages.
I love ZerO's three base aggressive ZvP btw.
I feel that those are the "architect" players that set up some type of trap and when its time to go, its time to go.
Those players bear resemblance to Russian generals in WW2 that were sloppy in the beginning but then at important front of Stallingrad, they push everything they go and as you said "plow" through everything.
Bisu is akin to the Carthaginian General Hannibal that make sure that he gets every single advantage as possible to build up a huge momentum and go for the final swing.
Other type of players consists of the Hitler archetype that goes for extreme aggression in hoping to end in the early game a la Blitzkrieg (Shine/Turn) or the Sun Tzu philosophical type based upon mind game and deception such as Flash, Effort, and Boxer.
Man this is making me fall in love with BW all over again<3
Nah, Hitler was an awful general. The Blitzkrieg strategy came from one of his top generals. A Hitler strategy would go like this:
1. Get an early advantage due to fast agression 2. Focus everything on tech and taking bases (neglecting worker production) while not building much actual army 3. Lose a bunch of engagements due to poor unit control, and sending a lots of troops behind enemy lines to die. 4. "gg" before your 10 starports can produce the first BC's that would definately have won you the game and start complaining that you didn't win despite being the "superior" player.
On November 19 2013 19:21 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: Nah, Hitler was an awful general. The Blitzkrieg strategy came from one of his top generals. A Hitler strategy would go like this:
1. Get an early advantage due to fast agression 2. Focus everything on tech and taking bases (neglecting worker production) while not building much actual army 3. Lose a bunch of engagements due to poor unit control, and sending a lots of troops behind enemy lines to die. 4. "gg" before your 10 starports can produce the first BC's that would definately have won you the game and start complaining that you didn't win despite being the "superior" player.
On November 19 2013 19:21 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: Nah, Hitler was an awful general. The Blitzkrieg strategy came from one of his top generals. A Hitler strategy would go like this:
1. Get an early advantage due to fast agression 2. Focus everything on tech and taking bases (neglecting worker production) while not building much actual army 3. Lose a bunch of engagements due to poor unit control, and sending a lots of troops behind enemy lines to die. 4. "gg" before your 10 starports can produce the first BC's that would definately have won you the game and start complaining that you didn't win despite being the "superior" player.
On November 19 2013 02:21 Dragoons wrote: Someone has tried to keep a score on Bisu's games, I have no idea how accurate this is, but I know it is not complete. From afreeca: vs Killer 6:2 vs Hero 13:5 vs Larva14:5 vs s2 2:0 vs Terror 3:0 vs Zero 8:4 vs Mind 3:2 vs Piano 8:2 vs Sea 5:3 vs Hiya 4:2 vs Mong 15:3 vs Shinee 8:0 vs ssak 8:0 vs Pure 1:0 vs Movie 1:2 vs Brave 1:0 vs Jaehoon 1:0 vs Tyson 1:0
if this is accurate, damn. bisu jumps right back into bw, and bw puts him right back to where he belongs. it's kind of amazing how the game produces such consistent results in terms of player hierarchy, especially compared to sc2.
Watch Mind + ZerO picking up their games. Bisu lost left and right in the beginning. And as far as my memory serves me, ZerO had Bisu's numbers in the Kespa days.
ZerO's play is kind of strange, especially watching it from his fps. I kind of get the same feeling from ssak and Tyson, where their play is generally very sloppy, but in the end, they just plow through everything despite the minor disadvantages.
I love ZerO's three base aggressive ZvP btw.
I feel that those are the "architect" players that set up some type of trap and when its time to go, its time to go.
Those players bear resemblance to Russian generals in WW2 that were sloppy in the beginning but then at important front of Stallingrad, they push everything they go and as you said "plow" through everything.
Bisu is akin to the Carthaginian General Hannibal that make sure that he gets every single advantage as possible to build up a huge momentum and go for the final swing.
Other type of players consists of the Hitler archetype that goes for extreme aggression in hoping to end in the early game a la Blitzkrieg (Shine/Turn) or the Sun Tzu philosophical type based upon mind game and deception such as Flash, Effort, and Boxer.
Man this is making me fall in love with BW all over again<3
By your logic Bisu is brilliant but screwed by his race and Shine is the enemy of all mankind.
Well, when you look at it from a BW'esque view, Hitler did: Send a bunch of troops on a suicide mission with little direction from the top (Russian front). Overextend his forces by taking more land than he could hold (3 front war). Invest heavily in tech technology hoping to use it for total military domination, but sacrificed the nessesary production to back it up and got punished for it (Germany were leading in aeroplane and rocket science while having the most advanced ships and tanks in the world, but had a pityful army size compare to the allies). I would add some remark about sacrificing workers here, but that would probably be poor taste.
Pretty much the equivalent of a iCCup scrub who uses a nice build someone else taught him (Blitzkrieg) and then has no idea what to do as a follow up.
EPT
