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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
November 19 2013 01:49 GMT
#1321
On November 19 2013 10:24 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 08:02 Xiphos wrote:
On November 19 2013 07:59 theMagus wrote:
On November 19 2013 02:21 Dragoons wrote:
Someone has tried to keep a score on Bisu's games, I have no idea how accurate this is, but I know it is not complete.
From afreeca:
vs Killer 6:2
vs Hero 13:5
vs Larva14:5
vs s2 2:0
vs Terror 3:0
vs Zero 8:4
vs Mind 3:2
vs Piano 8:2
vs Sea 5:3
vs Hiya 4:2
vs Mong 15:3
vs Shinee 8:0
vs ssak 8:0
vs Pure 1:0
vs Movie 1:2
vs Brave 1:0
vs Jaehoon 1:0
vs Tyson 1:0

Total: 102 W 28 L

vs Zerg 46 W 14 L

vs Terran 51 W 12 L

vs Protoss 5 W and 2 L

Can anyone translate this: (bj활동을 안하고있거나 해설자나 노망나서 욕하는 늙은이나 지드급실력자는 제외)




if this is accurate, damn. bisu jumps right back into bw, and bw puts him right back to where he belongs. it's kind of amazing how the game produces such consistent results in terms of player hierarchy, especially compared to sc2.


Watch Mind + ZerO picking up their games. Bisu lost left and right in the beginning. And as far as my memory serves me, ZerO had Bisu's numbers in the Kespa days.


ZerO's play is kind of strange, especially watching it from his fps. I kind of get the same feeling from ssak and Tyson, where their play is generally very sloppy, but in the end, they just plow through everything despite the minor disadvantages.

I love ZerO's three base aggressive ZvP btw.


I feel that those are the "architect" players that set up some type of trap and when its time to go, its time to go.

Those players bear resemblance to Russian generals in WW2 that were sloppy in the beginning but then at important front of Stallingrad, they push everything they go and as you said "plow" through everything.

Bisu is akin to the Carthaginian General Hannibal that make sure that he gets every single advantage as possible to build up a huge momentum and go for the final swing.

Other type of players consists of the Hitler archetype that goes for extreme aggression in hoping to end in the early game a la Blitzkrieg (Shine/Turn) or the Sun Tzu philosophical type based upon mind game and deception such as Flash, Effort, and Boxer.

Man this is making me fall in love with BW all over again<3
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19346 Posts
November 19 2013 02:02 GMT
#1322
idk if you can categorize Boxer as a Sun Tzu-type.

iloveoov is kind of like the american war machine. mass units in seconds because of superior economy
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-19 02:45:58
November 19 2013 02:41 GMT
#1323
On November 19 2013 10:49 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 10:24 Cambium wrote:
On November 19 2013 08:02 Xiphos wrote:
On November 19 2013 07:59 theMagus wrote:
On November 19 2013 02:21 Dragoons wrote:
Someone has tried to keep a score on Bisu's games, I have no idea how accurate this is, but I know it is not complete.
From afreeca:
vs Killer 6:2
vs Hero 13:5
vs Larva14:5
vs s2 2:0
vs Terror 3:0
vs Zero 8:4
vs Mind 3:2
vs Piano 8:2
vs Sea 5:3
vs Hiya 4:2
vs Mong 15:3
vs Shinee 8:0
vs ssak 8:0
vs Pure 1:0
vs Movie 1:2
vs Brave 1:0
vs Jaehoon 1:0
vs Tyson 1:0

Total: 102 W 28 L

vs Zerg 46 W 14 L

vs Terran 51 W 12 L

vs Protoss 5 W and 2 L

Can anyone translate this: (bj활동을 안하고있거나 해설자나 노망나서 욕하는 늙은이나 지드급실력자는 제외)




if this is accurate, damn. bisu jumps right back into bw, and bw puts him right back to where he belongs. it's kind of amazing how the game produces such consistent results in terms of player hierarchy, especially compared to sc2.


Watch Mind + ZerO picking up their games. Bisu lost left and right in the beginning. And as far as my memory serves me, ZerO had Bisu's numbers in the Kespa days.


ZerO's play is kind of strange, especially watching it from his fps. I kind of get the same feeling from ssak and Tyson, where their play is generally very sloppy, but in the end, they just plow through everything despite the minor disadvantages.

I love ZerO's three base aggressive ZvP btw.


I feel that those are the "architect" players that set up some type of trap and when its time to go, its time to go.

Those players bear resemblance to Russian generals in WW2 that were sloppy in the beginning but then at important front of Stallingrad, they push everything they go and as you said "plow" through everything.

Bisu is akin to the Carthaginian General Hannibal that make sure that he gets every single advantage as possible to build up a huge momentum and go for the final swing.

Other type of players consists of the Hitler archetype that goes for extreme aggression in hoping to end in the early game a la Blitzkrieg (Shine/Turn) or the Sun Tzu philosophical type based upon mind game and deception such as Flash, Effort, and Boxer.

Man this is making me fall in love with BW all over again<3


By your logic Bisu is brilliant but screwed by his race and Shine is the enemy of all mankind.
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dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 19 2013 03:37 GMT
#1324
Does anyone have the vods he played mong the other day? that was phenomenal
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
November 19 2013 03:42 GMT
#1325
On November 19 2013 11:41 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 10:49 Xiphos wrote:
On November 19 2013 10:24 Cambium wrote:
On November 19 2013 08:02 Xiphos wrote:
On November 19 2013 07:59 theMagus wrote:
On November 19 2013 02:21 Dragoons wrote:
Someone has tried to keep a score on Bisu's games, I have no idea how accurate this is, but I know it is not complete.
From afreeca:
vs Killer 6:2
vs Hero 13:5
vs Larva14:5
vs s2 2:0
vs Terror 3:0
vs Zero 8:4
vs Mind 3:2
vs Piano 8:2
vs Sea 5:3
vs Hiya 4:2
vs Mong 15:3
vs Shinee 8:0
vs ssak 8:0
vs Pure 1:0
vs Movie 1:2
vs Brave 1:0
vs Jaehoon 1:0
vs Tyson 1:0

Total: 102 W 28 L

vs Zerg 46 W 14 L

vs Terran 51 W 12 L

vs Protoss 5 W and 2 L

Can anyone translate this: (bj활동을 안하고있거나 해설자나 노망나서 욕하는 늙은이나 지드급실력자는 제외)




if this is accurate, damn. bisu jumps right back into bw, and bw puts him right back to where he belongs. it's kind of amazing how the game produces such consistent results in terms of player hierarchy, especially compared to sc2.


Watch Mind + ZerO picking up their games. Bisu lost left and right in the beginning. And as far as my memory serves me, ZerO had Bisu's numbers in the Kespa days.


ZerO's play is kind of strange, especially watching it from his fps. I kind of get the same feeling from ssak and Tyson, where their play is generally very sloppy, but in the end, they just plow through everything despite the minor disadvantages.

I love ZerO's three base aggressive ZvP btw.


I feel that those are the "architect" players that set up some type of trap and when its time to go, its time to go.

Those players bear resemblance to Russian generals in WW2 that were sloppy in the beginning but then at important front of Stallingrad, they push everything they go and as you said "plow" through everything.

Bisu is akin to the Carthaginian General Hannibal that make sure that he gets every single advantage as possible to build up a huge momentum and go for the final swing.

Other type of players consists of the Hitler archetype that goes for extreme aggression in hoping to end in the early game a la Blitzkrieg (Shine/Turn) or the Sun Tzu philosophical type based upon mind game and deception such as Flash, Effort, and Boxer.

Man this is making me fall in love with BW all over again<3


By your logic Bisu is brilliant but screwed by his race and Shine is the enemy of all mankind.


If you wish to look at it that way

2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
November 19 2013 06:32 GMT
#1326
On November 19 2013 12:37 dRaW wrote:
Does anyone have the vods he played mong the other day? that was phenomenal

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=429855#1 all-time archives
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=429855&currentpage=13#243 new vods that just got uploaded

seems like you're somewhat confused by what's happening in that thread if you have to ask here. subscribe!
En Taro Violet
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51446 Posts
November 19 2013 06:45 GMT
#1327
On November 19 2013 10:49 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 10:24 Cambium wrote:
On November 19 2013 08:02 Xiphos wrote:
On November 19 2013 07:59 theMagus wrote:
On November 19 2013 02:21 Dragoons wrote:
Someone has tried to keep a score on Bisu's games, I have no idea how accurate this is, but I know it is not complete.
From afreeca:
vs Killer 6:2
vs Hero 13:5
vs Larva14:5
vs s2 2:0
vs Terror 3:0
vs Zero 8:4
vs Mind 3:2
vs Piano 8:2
vs Sea 5:3
vs Hiya 4:2
vs Mong 15:3
vs Shinee 8:0
vs ssak 8:0
vs Pure 1:0
vs Movie 1:2
vs Brave 1:0
vs Jaehoon 1:0
vs Tyson 1:0

Total: 102 W 28 L

vs Zerg 46 W 14 L

vs Terran 51 W 12 L

vs Protoss 5 W and 2 L

Can anyone translate this: (bj활동을 안하고있거나 해설자나 노망나서 욕하는 늙은이나 지드급실력자는 제외)




if this is accurate, damn. bisu jumps right back into bw, and bw puts him right back to where he belongs. it's kind of amazing how the game produces such consistent results in terms of player hierarchy, especially compared to sc2.


Watch Mind + ZerO picking up their games. Bisu lost left and right in the beginning. And as far as my memory serves me, ZerO had Bisu's numbers in the Kespa days.


ZerO's play is kind of strange, especially watching it from his fps. I kind of get the same feeling from ssak and Tyson, where their play is generally very sloppy, but in the end, they just plow through everything despite the minor disadvantages.

I love ZerO's three base aggressive ZvP btw.


I feel that those are the "architect" players that set up some type of trap and when its time to go, its time to go.

Those players bear resemblance to Russian generals in WW2 that were sloppy in the beginning but then at important front of Stallingrad, they push everything they go and as you said "plow" through everything.

Bisu is akin to the Carthaginian General Hannibal that make sure that he gets every single advantage as possible to build up a huge momentum and go for the final swing.

Other type of players consists of the Hitler archetype that goes for extreme aggression in hoping to end in the early game a la Blitzkrieg (Shine/Turn) or the Sun Tzu philosophical type based upon mind game and deception such as Flash, Effort, and Boxer.

Man this is making me fall in love with BW all over again<3


... so Savior ISNT Hitler?
Commentator
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
November 19 2013 06:50 GMT
#1328
Hitler should be someone good at mindgames. Maybe JD? Savior is clearly Robin Hood.
En Taro Violet
Zaphod Beeblebrox
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark697 Posts
November 19 2013 10:21 GMT
#1329
Nah, Hitler was an awful general. The Blitzkrieg strategy came from one of his top generals. A Hitler strategy would go like this:

1. Get an early advantage due to fast agression
2. Focus everything on tech and taking bases (neglecting worker production) while not building much actual army
3. Lose a bunch of engagements due to poor unit control, and sending a lots of troops behind enemy lines to die.
4. "gg" before your 10 starports can produce the first BC's that would definately have won you the game and start complaining that you didn't win despite being the "superior" player.
Go try StarBow on the Arcade. TL thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440661
ZodaSoda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1191 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-19 11:38:54
November 19 2013 11:38 GMT
#1330
On November 19 2013 19:21 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
Nah, Hitler was an awful general. The Blitzkrieg strategy came from one of his top generals. A Hitler strategy would go like this:

1. Get an early advantage due to fast agression
2. Focus everything on tech and taking bases (neglecting worker production) while not building much actual army
3. Lose a bunch of engagements due to poor unit control, and sending a lots of troops behind enemy lines to die.
4. "gg" before your 10 starports can produce the first BC's that would definately have won you the game and start complaining that you didn't win despite being the "superior" player.


So every non pro gamer on iCCup is Hitler?
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Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
November 19 2013 11:51 GMT
#1331
On November 19 2013 20:38 ZodaSoda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 19:21 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
Nah, Hitler was an awful general. The Blitzkrieg strategy came from one of his top generals. A Hitler strategy would go like this:

1. Get an early advantage due to fast agression
2. Focus everything on tech and taking bases (neglecting worker production) while not building much actual army
3. Lose a bunch of engagements due to poor unit control, and sending a lots of troops behind enemy lines to die.
4. "gg" before your 10 starports can produce the first BC's that would definately have won you the game and start complaining that you didn't win despite being the "superior" player.


So every non pro gamer on iCCup is Hitler?

Hmm now it's starting to make some sense..
En Taro Violet
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
November 19 2013 14:50 GMT
#1332
On November 19 2013 11:41 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 10:49 Xiphos wrote:
On November 19 2013 10:24 Cambium wrote:
On November 19 2013 08:02 Xiphos wrote:
On November 19 2013 07:59 theMagus wrote:
On November 19 2013 02:21 Dragoons wrote:
Someone has tried to keep a score on Bisu's games, I have no idea how accurate this is, but I know it is not complete.
From afreeca:
vs Killer 6:2
vs Hero 13:5
vs Larva14:5
vs s2 2:0
vs Terror 3:0
vs Zero 8:4
vs Mind 3:2
vs Piano 8:2
vs Sea 5:3
vs Hiya 4:2
vs Mong 15:3
vs Shinee 8:0
vs ssak 8:0
vs Pure 1:0
vs Movie 1:2
vs Brave 1:0
vs Jaehoon 1:0
vs Tyson 1:0

Total: 102 W 28 L

vs Zerg 46 W 14 L

vs Terran 51 W 12 L

vs Protoss 5 W and 2 L

Can anyone translate this: (bj활동을 안하고있거나 해설자나 노망나서 욕하는 늙은이나 지드급실력자는 제외)




if this is accurate, damn. bisu jumps right back into bw, and bw puts him right back to where he belongs. it's kind of amazing how the game produces such consistent results in terms of player hierarchy, especially compared to sc2.


Watch Mind + ZerO picking up their games. Bisu lost left and right in the beginning. And as far as my memory serves me, ZerO had Bisu's numbers in the Kespa days.


ZerO's play is kind of strange, especially watching it from his fps. I kind of get the same feeling from ssak and Tyson, where their play is generally very sloppy, but in the end, they just plow through everything despite the minor disadvantages.

I love ZerO's three base aggressive ZvP btw.


I feel that those are the "architect" players that set up some type of trap and when its time to go, its time to go.

Those players bear resemblance to Russian generals in WW2 that were sloppy in the beginning but then at important front of Stallingrad, they push everything they go and as you said "plow" through everything.

Bisu is akin to the Carthaginian General Hannibal that make sure that he gets every single advantage as possible to build up a huge momentum and go for the final swing.

Other type of players consists of the Hitler archetype that goes for extreme aggression in hoping to end in the early game a la Blitzkrieg (Shine/Turn) or the Sun Tzu philosophical type based upon mind game and deception such as Flash, Effort, and Boxer.

Man this is making me fall in love with BW all over again<3


By your logic Bisu is brilliant but screwed by his race and Shine is the enemy of all mankind.


Sounds pretty accurate to me
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25159 Posts
November 19 2013 15:47 GMT
#1333
Lol, Hitler had poor micro and Idra GGed, who knew!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 19 2013 16:45 GMT
#1334
On November 19 2013 15:32 Stratos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 12:37 dRaW wrote:
Does anyone have the vods he played mong the other day? that was phenomenal

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=429855#1 all-time archives
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=429855&currentpage=13#243 new vods that just got uploaded

seems like you're somewhat confused by what's happening in that thread if you have to ask here. subscribe!

thx
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Zaphod Beeblebrox
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark697 Posts
November 19 2013 23:40 GMT
#1335
Well, when you look at it from a BW'esque view, Hitler did: Send a bunch of troops on a suicide mission with little direction from the top (Russian front). Overextend his forces by taking more land than he could hold (3 front war). Invest heavily in tech technology hoping to use it for total military domination, but sacrificed the nessesary production to back it up and got punished for it (Germany were leading in aeroplane and rocket science while having the most advanced ships and tanks in the world, but had a pityful army size compare to the allies).
I would add some remark about sacrificing workers here, but that would probably be poor taste.

Pretty much the equivalent of a iCCup scrub who uses a nice build someone else taught him (Blitzkrieg) and then has no idea what to do as a follow up.
Go try StarBow on the Arcade. TL thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440661
lemmata
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
468 Posts
November 20 2013 00:30 GMT
#1336
On November 19 2013 11:02 icystorage wrote:
idk if you can categorize Boxer as a Sun Tzu-type.

iloveoov is kind of like the american war machine. mass units in seconds because of superior economy

Boxer is probably more like the Vietcong, if the Vietcong could execute perfect splits against napalm.
fold
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia665 Posts
November 20 2013 06:17 GMT
#1337
Super Junior fans subbed a game of one of the members playing against Bisu.

t.t
flashimba
Profile Joined May 2011
225 Posts
November 20 2013 07:13 GMT
#1338
Who is Kyuhyun and what is Super Junior?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25159 Posts
November 20 2013 11:54 GMT
#1339
This generals from history/BW comparisons is thread worthy!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
November 20 2013 15:17 GMT
#1340
Kyuhyun is a member of super junior, one of the biggest and most popular kpop boy bands, kinda like all guys snsd
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