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traceurling
United States1240 Posts
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StutteR
United States1903 Posts
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Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
On January 25 2014 20:27 StutteR wrote: Any good ZvTs lately? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=402419¤tpage=17#340 On January 09 2014 05:11 JohnChoi wrote: oh my god the race wars on sonic event match!! + Show Spoiler + zero turning on the beast mode busting out all kinds of stuff.. + Show Spoiler + double stack muta control!! I haven't seen in it yet. | ||
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neptunusfisk
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Epoxide
Magic Woods9326 Posts
On January 27 2014 09:07 neptunusfisk wrote: I just remembered some game where flash pushed with bio and microed until he only had a single firebat that killed some lings. Can't find the vod. Any thoughts/clues? this is what comes to mind it's not flash, firebat, nor zerglings though ;; | ||
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KDot2
United States1213 Posts
Just curious if anyone has some general tips ? If YOU had to learn BW over from scratch how would you do it ? Right now Im just gonna play through both campaigns since the storyline intrigues me anyway. Then I will most likely spend a chunk of time improving my macro in a map by myself to a level where I will at least not be laughed out of every game. Although it doesn't mean that much I DID put about 2 years into sc2 and got myself to a masters level so that should help but I know its not going to be easy. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On January 28 2014 09:01 KDot2 wrote: Im gonna start dedicating a few hours a day to learn BW ...a combo of this awesome forum,Starbow,and the GoM classic tournament/tasteless stream has inspired me. Just curious if anyone has some general tips ? If YOU had to learn BW over from scratch how would you do it ? Right now Im just gonna play through both campaigns since the storyline intrigues me anyway. Then I will most likely spend a chunk of time improving my macro in a map by myself to a level where I will at least not be laughed out of every game. Although it doesn't mean that much I DID put about 2 years into sc2 and got myself to a masters level so that should help but I know its not going to be easy. while playing through the campaign is good, I would only do it for the story and maybe some of the micro levels(the ones where you have x units to work with and have to get to the end of the level and such). I wouldn't bother spending a chunk of time just improving macro in a map by yourself. That's just boring lol. Watch streams, pick up what compositions and things you should/shouldn't do, be familiar with the units(campaign should help you with hotkeys), keep in mind camera keys and control groups(how to group things and such) then play games on iccup. If you can make a game, then you can specify the level of opponent so you can always go for D- in your game name. Be prepared to lose x games before you start to macro well enough to win some here and there and just keep playing, trying different strats, having fun and you'll improve as time goes  Other thing I'll write is how I do my own control groups and camera keys as terran. Keep in mind that this is how I do them so yours and I'm sure other TL members will likely differ depending on what you're accustomed to and such: 1- marines/firebats 2- marines (early on, usually only medics since you'll have about 12 marines/firebats) 3- medics 4- tanks 5- science vessels 6- cc 7- cc 8,9- scans F1- production structures F2- location infront of exp(can probably change to another production structure location) F3- new location to rerally Idea is to tap F1 to get to production structures and click buildings to make units. The reason the units are done in that order from my perspective are that marines need to stim however they can't stim with medics so if you have marine/medics in a control group, you'll need to select marines to stim then adding another un-necessary step. 4 is tanks by themselves to siege up fast when I need to since like marines, if there was something else at same time, you can't siege them all at once. These groups are what I'm most comfortable with atm but you can always change them as needed. If mech, it's usually vultures for beginning groups then tanks and goliaths(not sure which goes first tbh lol) then vessels. With protoss, you want zealots first then dragoons then eventually spellcasters. It's the general structure. For zerg, you don't need to play that late game OP race so I won't help you there  jk jk but I dunno how they use control groups and such. I think you can use camera for hatcheries then just hotkey units(other than zerglings) and spellcasters while you can just a-move zerglings and spread them out during the attack to avoid storms and such. At least, that's plausible from my perspective Aside from that, liquipedia is a great guide to seeing more about builds if you want to go that route(I just wing it and play as I want lol). Good luck | ||
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neptunusfisk
2286 Posts
On January 28 2014 09:01 KDot2 wrote: Im gonna start dedicating a few hours a day to learn BW ...a combo of this awesome forum,Starbow,and the GoM classic tournament/tasteless stream has inspired me. Just curious if anyone has some general tips ? If YOU had to learn BW over from scratch how would you do it ? Right now Im just gonna play through both campaigns since the storyline intrigues me anyway. Then I will most likely spend a chunk of time improving my macro in a map by myself to a level where I will at least not be laughed out of every game. Although it doesn't mean that much I DID put about 2 years into sc2 and got myself to a masters level so that should help but I know its not going to be easy. I started playing terran (previous BW experience being a long time ago as protoss) on ICCUp a few days ago. Not doing so well! 0-10 wins/losses today. But despite the glaring D- it feels as though I've made some progress. If you've been masters you shouldn't have any problems, I think. Practice some standard build a few times and play the people you can find online. After a while you should be able beat at least one of them! And then just continue with that. /previously plat in hots and horribad longtime bw noob | ||
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Complete
United States1864 Posts
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JohnChoi
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On January 28 2014 12:29 Complete wrote: So has the Windows 7 BW color bug thing ever been fixed? It's time to install BW again but I dunno if I cba if I get the messed up colors whenever I try to play there was a .reg file posted a while back. That fixes some of the color issues I had in the MP screens but I'm guessing yours was much worse? | ||
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fencer
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
awwww buttfuuuuuck | ||
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Beamer
United States242 Posts
On January 28 2014 13:30 JohnChoi wrote: use mcalauncher or wlauncher they have color fix built in Which launcher would you recommend and why? | ||
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JohnChoi
1773 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/LIoPVMy.png) which you check and it fixes color issues. There are some ppl though who have color issues and the problem stems from graphix card drivers or something | ||
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GeckoXp
Germany2016 Posts
On January 28 2014 09:01 KDot2 wrote: Im gonna start dedicating a few hours a day to learn BW ...a combo of this awesome forum,Starbow,and the GoM classic tournament/tasteless stream has inspired me. Just curious if anyone has some general tips ? If YOU had to learn BW over from scratch how would you do it ? Right now Im just gonna play through both campaigns since the storyline intrigues me anyway. Then I will most likely spend a chunk of time improving my macro in a map by myself to a level where I will at least not be laughed out of every game. Although it doesn't mean that much I DID put about 2 years into sc2 and got myself to a masters level so that should help but I know its not going to be easy. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Portal:Beginners | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
my first goal was to defeat the computer without walling (im T) and cheating. then when I was able to do that, I tried to perfect the worker split (splitting the workers in the beginning so that they each have 1 mineral patch). it should be smooth. next was to memorize and stick to a BO in each match up. its just to get the feel of things and timings. watch some pros or the gom tv classic where tasteless casted. then brought some lube and prepared myself to get raped in ICCup so hard that shit just drop off my ass. that's just me though, just sharing. | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5913 Posts
On January 27 2014 10:54 Epoxide wrote: this is what comes to mind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke9Lc14Z2Us it's not flash, firebat, nor zerglings though ;; I feed Sadness at that video | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
you gotta love esex | ||
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Rampager
Australia1007 Posts
On January 28 2014 19:01 icystorage wrote: http://esportsexpress.com/2014/01/tasteless-reignites-passion-with-former-flame/ you gotta love esex Esex is so good, their articles are consistently hilarious and this one is no exception. Does anyone else find the recent explosion of BW events crazy? I have no idea where all these BW events are coming from, my only regret is there's not enough time in the day to watch BW and DotA | ||
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