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On January 06 2013 08:40 Game wrote:
Mirnaia, if Sayle + Day9 casted together I think Sayle would shy up and not be that great (unless it was for a long period of time). I tried to pay Day9 for ISL1 to cast with Sayle, so if TL accomplishes it I'll be impressed.
Valid concern however all I have listed are just quick examples and not anything definite, what I wanted to stress was the idea behind the pairing.
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On January 06 2013 03:10 WeRRa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 16:53 GGzerG wrote:On January 05 2013 08:38 WeRRa wrote:
No koreans? This will be boring as hell.... I cannot believe you even just said that. I am not even going to respond to that. And this comes from a guy who runs arround "hey i'm the friend of all koreans and bring you in their clans". But hell keep them out of any foreign tournaments. Doty and Game were right your a shame for the community.
What? lol
edit : are you implying that you want Koreans in foreign tournaments? I don't even understand, your grammar is too poor.
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I'd love to see some of the good olds like Cholera and Klazart as guest casters for a few matches at least.
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Why is there 7 maps that most foreign players have little to no experience playing being used for this tournament?
I'm thinking of playing in this tournament but I don't know a single one of these maps and just learning the layout let alone having reasonable strategies for 3 matchups on 7 maps is fairly daunting.
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On January 06 2013 17:44 valaki wrote:
I'd love to see some of the good olds like Cholera and Klazart as guest casters for a few matches at least.
They are dead -.-
The only old caster you could get in contact with is Nuke, but he doesn't give two shits about the Foreigner scene.
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On January 06 2013 19:49 Smuft wrote:
Why is there 7 maps that most foreign players have little to no experience playing being used for this tournament?
I'm thinking of playing in this tournament but I don't know a single one of these maps and just learning the layout let alone having reasonable strategies for 3 matchups on 7 maps is fairly daunting.
Fighting Spirit, New Sniper Ridge, Neo Jade, Neo Ground Zero, Neo Electric Circuit, New Bloody Ridge, and Neo Aztec.
So you've never heard of Fighting Spirit.
/Ignore
Seriously though the majority of these maps are from the last seasons proleague the current players know them really well and Aztec, Bloody Ridge are very well known maps too and further more all of these maps have been proven to be kind of balanced.
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I have to say, I'm pretty sure most people know these maps rather well.
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Croatia9528 Posts
I'm sure Smuft just wants to play on maps from 2001-2003 when he was a progamer.
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On January 06 2013 20:40 ImbaTosS wrote:
I have to say, I'm pretty sure most people know these maps rather well.
The old school players (If they were to return) Probably wouldn't know the new proleague maps.
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Okay, I guess I'm more outdated than most.
Why not just 3-4 maps like every individual Korean league has done in the past?
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Because it's not a Korean league, and more maps - more variety in games - more fun 
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I do agree 7 maps is pushing it.
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I mean I thought the point of this tournament was to renew / maintain interest in the BW scene and keeping things simple seems to help with that goal? It was hard enough back in the day to get good practice games on pro-level maps and that was when there were only 3-4 maps to practice, now the player pool is much smaller and I have to practice 7 maps? The result for a player in my shoes considering playing this tournament is: 1) That's too many maps, I don't want to bother learning them all. 2) End up beating or losing to a player because one of us has much more or much less practice on a particular map (unnecessary variance) 3) Low quality games.
If you limit the tournament to 3-4 maps all of those problems are done away with and I don't see what the draw backs are, 3-4 maps is still plenty.
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On January 06 2013 21:50 Smuft wrote:
I mean I thought the point of this tournament was to renew / maintain interest in the BW scene and keeping things simple seems to help with that goal? It was hard enough back in the day to get good practice games on pro-level maps and that was when there were only 3-4 maps to practice, now the player pool is much smaller and I have to practice 7 maps? The result for a player in my shoes considering playing this tournament is: 1) That's too many maps, I don't want to bother learning them all. 2) End up beating or losing to a player because one of us has much more or much less practice on a particular map (unnecessary variance) 3) Low quality games.
If you limit the tournament to 3-4 maps all of those problems are done away with and I don't see what the draw backs are, 3-4 maps is still plenty.
i agree on this one.
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On January 06 2013 21:50 Smuft wrote:
I mean I thought the point of this tournament was to renew / maintain interest in the BW scene and keeping things simple seems to help with that goal? It was hard enough back in the day to get good practice games on pro-level maps and that was when there were only 3-4 maps to practice, now the player pool is much smaller and I have to practice 7 maps? The result for a player in my shoes considering playing this tournament is: 1) That's too many maps, I don't want to bother learning them all. 2) End up beating or losing to a player because one of us has much more or much less practice on a particular map (unnecessary variance) 3) Low quality games.
If you limit the tournament to 3-4 maps all of those problems are done away with and I don't see what the draw backs are, 3-4 maps is still plenty.
technically, he is right about it.
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On January 06 2013 17:44 valaki wrote:
I'd love to see some of the good olds like Cholera and Klazart as guest casters for a few matches at least.
I would sacrifice my firstborn to see either one of those guys cast this.
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On January 06 2013 21:50 Smuft wrote:
I mean I thought the point of this tournament was to renew / maintain interest in the BW scene and keeping things simple seems to help with that goal? It was hard enough back in the day to get good practice games on pro-level maps and that was when there were only 3-4 maps to practice, now the player pool is much smaller and I have to practice 7 maps? The result for a player in my shoes considering playing this tournament is: 1) That's too many maps, I don't want to bother learning them all. 2) End up beating or losing to a player because one of us has much more or much less practice on a particular map (unnecessary variance) 3) Low quality games.
If you limit the tournament to 3-4 maps all of those problems are done away with and I don't see what the draw backs are, 3-4 maps is still plenty.
You have a point, but I believe you will not need to practice on all maps, because probably they will not use all the maps on qualifiers (I guess it will be 4 maps), then in round of 24 and round of 16 max 3 maps since it's ODT, elimination brackets: bo5, so max 5 maps and only in the finals you will have all 7 maps played.
For now we have just to wait for another announcement what maps will be used for each stage
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When exactly are we getting the qualifier information?
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On January 06 2013 21:48 corumjhaelen wrote:
I do agree 7 maps is pushing it.
Although the maps that they have picked are really good!
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On January 06 2013 23:17 thezanursic wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 21:48 corumjhaelen wrote:
I do agree 7 maps is pushing it. Although the maps that they have picked are really good!
Modern macro maps, nothing groundbreaking.
I'd love to see FS disappear though.
Edit : They should let TheShimmy choose the maps.
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