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go go go BW !!!
btw - how can we signup for qualifiers ??
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
go go go BW !!! btw - how can we signup for qualifiers ?? | ||
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Prof. Protoss
Germany744 Posts
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
On January 06 2013 00:44 Prof. Protoss wrote: read the three posts above you. I just asked didnt see  thanks | ||
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dOTY
Germany483 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On January 05 2013 21:47 SirJolt wrote: I was so shocked when someone said he should stop playing because of the fact that he doesn't seem to have improved. If anything, I'm impressed by the amount of enjoyment he gets out of it. Guy sounds like a hero. He reminds me of a lot of other guys who couldn't get over the hump. Everyone has their own skill ceiling | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On January 06 2013 02:09 dOTY wrote: I'll win this. Mark my words ! If you sim city properly against Sziky lings maybe ;p | ||
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WeRRa
378 Posts
On January 05 2013 16:53 GGzerG wrote: I cannot believe you even just said that. I am not even going to respond to that. And this comes from a guy who runs arround "hey i'm the friend of all koreans and bring you in their clans". But hell keep them out of any foreign tournaments. Doty and Game were right your a shame for the community. | ||
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
On January 06 2013 03:05 endy wrote: If you sim city properly against Sziky lings maybe ;p He has the potential. Just needs to refine his play. Maybe he's been doing that, judging from his words! | ||
ImbaTosS
United Kingdom1732 Posts
On January 06 2013 03:10 WeRRa wrote: And this comes from a guy who runs arround "hey i'm the friend of all koreans and bring you in their clans". But hell keep them out of any foreign tournaments. Doty and Game were right your a shame for the community. Please don't bring this kind of thing unnecessarily to a very positive thread. On another note, I played a notable, scary player on ladder today who has just returned... He's one to watch... | ||
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dOTY
Germany483 Posts
On January 06 2013 03:05 endy wrote: If you sim city properly against Sziky lings maybe ;p Ouch ^_^ your right though ! Sziky sooo good. | ||
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Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
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KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
On January 06 2013 03:20 ImbaTosS wrote: Please don't bring this kind of thing unnecessarily to a very positive thread. On another note, I played a notable, scary player on ladder today who has just returned... He's one to watch... Come on, don't tease me like that! Who? | ||
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Mirnaia
Hungary34 Posts
First of all let me express how wonderful the idea of this tournament is, and how happy I am to see TL taking the initiative to organise such an event for BW now. And looking back at the previous TSL+ Show Spoiler + SLLLSSLS All in all, this is probably the best time to host a BW tournament backed by a very serious institution in foreign Starcraft - HotS is not yet out, and there is a noticable trickle (wave? tsunami?) of people who are either going back to BW or are trying the classic out for the first time, and enjoying it. What I would like to address in this regard is casting - both the political and the enjoyment value aspect of it, and in a way about ex-BW foreigner big shots who have moved on to SC2. Both topics have been brought up several times in this thread. Please keep in mind that I'm going to be writing from an ideal world perspective, realistically I have no idea who is actually available and willing. For more than one reason bringing back casters who were in TSL and TSL 2 is a must. First, for those who have seen them, nostalgia for the great Artosis, Tasteless, Chill, Day[9] etc. casts, I also fondly remember Manifesto's deep and reassuring voice from TSL 1 telling me that a tank is "too fat to fit". Second, politics and addressing the most people possible. I'm talking about people whose SC life began with SC2, and have not yet tried or watched Brood War, and they are the majority on this site. They don't know who Sayle, Hacklebeast, Elegant, Kiante is. However, they do know about the aforementioned four casters, for example, since they have all moved to SC2. People whose potential first BW experience is TLS will have a hook they can use to begin their connection. The importance of this can't be stressed enough (every salesperson knows it is incomparably easier to sell something to an existing client than to obtain a new one). Third, I fucking love their casting to death. All that said, I think it would be a travesty not to include today's active casters. If I were one of those people who have the love and dedication and work their asses off to keep BW coverage going during times when money- and watcherwise it is the "Starcraft that also ran" out of the two, and were not offered the opportunity to take part in this endeavour, I would feel as if I were punched in the face. (Disclaimer: the real BW casters might be more or less belligerent.) I believe they should be honoured by being offered this chance. Also, I fucking love their casting to death. Regarding ex-BW players we all love. I'm doubtful about the value of giving them free invites (but of course I have no idea if that is planned). For those who still practice BW or will take a break from SC2 to practice hardcore for TLS, there are multiple qualification tournaments, if they manage to get in, fantastic, hats off to them and I'll be cheering. With no disrespect to the past greats, there are few things more demoralising than being super-hyped to see an old hero finally appear only to end up - rightfully - with his ass in his hands. Especially - since the field where BW is by far more taxing than SC2 is mechanics - when one can feel that their brains are much faster than their hands, they KNOW what they want to do and it's a great plan but it all falls apart because of sub-par execution. Very frustrating for player and fan alike. Some of these players, however, as some have already shown, could be great commentators, if they are willing. For example, the Nony(+Day[9]) analysis of Bisu v Saviour was super, and even in his explanatory video of BW v SC2 carrier control Nony has shown that even when talking about such a "dry" mechanics-issue he can be both immersive and entertaining at the same time - in said carrier-video, when he was discussing micro against goliaths I could imagine being in an actual game watching it, I was actually excited for it when in reality all that was happening on the screen was a single carrier being moved around in single player. This is just an example, but in general great players who are not regular casters can be incredibly entertaining, educational and refreshing to listen to. On to the proposal, realising that this post is turning out to be a lot lot lot longer than I have bargained for. Taking everything into account my idea is that the best results could be achieved by 1) Having casting duos. TSL's always had non-solo casts, and methinks they do tend to work out better (no offense to Sayle's great 14-hour solo marathons) 2) Here is the actual idea, deeply embedded in the wall of text: having every pair made up of one old- and one new school caster. This immediately has a multitude of benefits. - It breaks the tradition of well-established duos, in a positive way. Sure, Tastosis & Co. have the advantage of being intimately familiar with each other's styles and have great division of casting labour, but I feel that sometimes they know each other too well. Getting a partner you have not casted with yet forces you to acknowledge the other one and to think fresh and have actual conversation-style casting and game discussion, because you do not know the other person's reaction in advance. It reduces the amount of mannerisms that inevitably arise after you had to talk about the same subject for hundreds of hours. It's like first love all over again. (Actually, it's a lot more like cheating on an old partner for the adventure and excitement, but shhhhh.) - It pays proper honour to both the old veterans and the young titans. - It provides great synergy. Current casters have the most up-to-date information on the current - For every single match, again, people coming from SC2 will have someone familiar, greatly reducing the novelty-fear ("these names all say nothing to me, why should I care?") and increasing the chance they will start watching the beautiful game. Some combinations that I believe would augment each other very well, either because of similar or vastly different but imho great complementary styles: Sayle and Day[9] (*drool*, also incredibly high "terrible blunder"/sec incoming), Hacklebeast and Artosis Kiante and Nony I'm sure you can come up with many other potentially very entertaining pairings. P.s. Dear and much respected organisers, please don't take this as me being a Mr. Know-It-All Smartypants Cleverdick who is trying to tell you your ways, I am certain you have given the topic ample thought and I imagine the bottleneck is caster availability rather than anything else. However, of all events ever hosted by TL, this is the one that cries "raise awareness! show everyone how fun this stuff is!" by far the most. Starting 2013 by putting a BW championship down on the table is more than just another TL tournament - it is also a message, a statement that TL considers BW important and wants to help promote the game. For me certainly, and also I hope for the greatest number of people who are potential watchers the casting combinations I have outlined above would serve as the best way to be addressed, I believe, | ||
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EchOne
United States2906 Posts
Of course my favorite caster of all time remains SirJolt. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
They said nothing about invites, so all the guys who want to participate technically have to qualify or am I missing something here? | ||
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Mirnaia
Hungary34 Posts
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sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
the other combos would be sick. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
LONG LIVE BROODWAR | ||
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Game
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JohnBall
Brazil1272 Posts
<3 | ||
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