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On October 09 2012 11:44 EienShinwa wrote:
I'm sorry, but that guy is a piece of shit. Domestic abuse is something I find no tolerance for at all. Home is the one place you should always count on to be a comforting and safe place. Not only does he abuse her, but he fucking married her to dodge mandatory military training? I sincerely hope his wife gets separation as soon as possible and takes this asshole to court. His mom also sounds like the typical ignorant mother-in-law.
Agreed. I despise people who make excuses for their relatives or friends. An unjust action is unjust regardless of who does it.
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Bisutopia19274 Posts
Was having a discussion with some people on skype over why Luxury gets more negative attention then Yellow. For those short on BW history this is why.
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Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
Nice bump. I missed this thread originally. What the fuck.
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Bisutopia19274 Posts
On May 10 2013 13:55 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Nice bump. I missed this thread originally. What the fuck.
Yeah it's really messed up. And Yellow went into the Army immediately for anyone wondering about that too. He should be done soon.
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This is horrible  I didn't join the scene during this time so didn't know much about Luxury but this is just sad...I mean I still respect sAviOr a lot because of Ver's editorials but reading this I just can't muster any sympathy for luxury looks like the match fixing scandal wasn't just a one time thing but rather just him be who he is
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On May 10 2013 13:55 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Nice bump. I missed this thread originally. What the fuck.
I missed this thread too apparently. wtf luxury. this is crazy
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TLADT24920 Posts
wow, that diary and his poor wife. Hope she got a divorce and things got better for her!
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It sucks seeing my past idols doing stuff like this. Lux why man???
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He'll have to go to the army sooner or later, and hopefully people there will make him pay for his actions.
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On May 10 2013 15:12 endy wrote:
He'll have to go to the army sooner or later, and hopefully people there will make him pay for his actions.
Why even have a justice system when we condemn everyone with no hope of redemption, right?
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On May 10 2013 15:41 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 15:12 endy wrote:
He'll have to go to the army sooner or later, and hopefully people there will make him pay for his actions. Why even have a justice system when we condemn everyone with no hope of redemption, right?
The criminal law doesn't stop crime only punishes crime after it has done and with that being said I think it really differs on which state they prefer the length of redemption are to be given for example in australia they are cases where murderers are expected to ask forgiveness from the family members that they have murdered and by doing this they hope the person who committed the crime will repent and feel remorse and guilt over the crimes they have committed . This is also called as restorative justice further explain in this link http://www.oneperth.com.au/2012/11/28/road-to-redemption/ where we don't throw person behind the bars of a cell and lock him forever without giving a chance for "redemption".
I am not sure about korean law and what is the social norm and response for this kind of situation for wife abuse and the repercussion for committing this crimes. Although on further reflection, I think people can be divided on how much chance can we give to the people who commit the crime some prefer them to be punishable for live and branded as criminal for the things that they have committed and some are liberal and agreeable to a restoration some kind of a second chance for this people to be normal law abiding citizen .
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On May 10 2013 15:41 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 15:12 endy wrote:
He'll have to go to the army sooner or later, and hopefully people there will make him pay for his actions. Why even have a justice system when we condemn everyone with no hope of redemption, right?
I think he was given a chance but unlike his brother he didn't take it and instead kept dodging his military service and abusing his sick wife and in-laws.
Except for the acid thing, which he denied, treating your wife like shit is not illegal and the justice system may never do anything about it, which is probably the very reason the wife felt that she needed to go public with her story.
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On May 10 2013 15:12 endy wrote:
He'll have to go to the army sooner or later, and hopefully people there will make him pay for his actions.
trust me he is fucked. no one likes a draft dodger and ESPECIALLY no one likes a wife abuser. He is fucked. Younger soldiers are going to give him hell. Good, he fucking deserves it. Who the fuck hurts their wife.
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On August 24 2012 23:13 Bagration wrote:
Well, first matchfixing, and now domestic violence. Jesus :\
Moving up in the world! (Or down depending on how you look at it)
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You forgot the draft dodging and theft from Yellow.
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On May 10 2013 15:53 Sawamura wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 15:41 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 15:12 endy wrote:
He'll have to go to the army sooner or later, and hopefully people there will make him pay for his actions. Why even have a justice system when we condemn everyone with no hope of redemption, right? The criminal law doesn't stop crime only punishes crime after it has done and with that being said I think it really differs on which state they prefer the length of redemption are to be given for example in australia they are cases where murderers are expected to ask forgiveness from the family members that they have murdered and by doing this they hope the person who committed the crime will repent and feel remorse and guilt over the crimes they have committed . This is also called as restorative justice further explain in this link http://www.oneperth.com.au/2012/11/28/road-to-redemption/ where we don't throw person behind the bars of a cell and lock him forever without giving a chance for "redemption". I am not sure about korean law and what is the social norm and response for this kind of situation for wife abuse and the repercussion for committing this crimes. Although on further reflection, I think people can be divided on how much chance can we give to the people who commit the crime some prefer them to be punishable for live and branded as criminal for the things that they have committed and some are liberal and agreeable to a restoration some kind of a second chance for this people to be normal law abiding citizen .
Why are you replying this to me when the previous post is suggesting illegal vigilante justice?
On May 10 2013 16:05 endy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 15:41 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 15:12 endy wrote:
He'll have to go to the army sooner or later, and hopefully people there will make him pay for his actions. Why even have a justice system when we condemn everyone with no hope of redemption, right? I think he was given a chance but unlike his brother he didn't take it and instead kept dodging his military service and abusing his sick wife and in-laws. Except for the acid thing, which he denied, treating your wife like shit is not illegal and the justice system may never do anything about it, which is probably the very reason the wife felt that she needed to go public with her story.
So what does getting beat up in the military accomplish? If anything that just gives him an even more twisted view of the world if it's done with out rationality, and makes him a even bigger liability to society.
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Oh man... That puts a dark shadow over every gamer out there... This is very very sad indeed.
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On May 10 2013 17:10 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 15:53 Sawamura wrote:On May 10 2013 15:41 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 15:12 endy wrote:
He'll have to go to the army sooner or later, and hopefully people there will make him pay for his actions. Why even have a justice system when we condemn everyone with no hope of redemption, right? The criminal law doesn't stop crime only punishes crime after it has done and with that being said I think it really differs on which state they prefer the length of redemption are to be given for example in australia they are cases where murderers are expected to ask forgiveness from the family members that they have murdered and by doing this they hope the person who committed the crime will repent and feel remorse and guilt over the crimes they have committed . This is also called as restorative justice further explain in this link http://www.oneperth.com.au/2012/11/28/road-to-redemption/ where we don't throw person behind the bars of a cell and lock him forever without giving a chance for "redemption". I am not sure about korean law and what is the social norm and response for this kind of situation for wife abuse and the repercussion for committing this crimes. Although on further reflection, I think people can be divided on how much chance can we give to the people who commit the crime some prefer them to be punishable for live and branded as criminal for the things that they have committed and some are liberal and agreeable to a restoration some kind of a second chance for this people to be normal law abiding citizen . Why are you replying this to me when the previous post is suggesting illegal vigilante justice? Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 16:05 endy wrote:On May 10 2013 15:41 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 15:12 endy wrote:
He'll have to go to the army sooner or later, and hopefully people there will make him pay for his actions. Why even have a justice system when we condemn everyone with no hope of redemption, right? I think he was given a chance but unlike his brother he didn't take it and instead kept dodging his military service and abusing his sick wife and in-laws. Except for the acid thing, which he denied, treating your wife like shit is not illegal and the justice system may never do anything about it, which is probably the very reason the wife felt that she needed to go public with her story. So what does getting beat up in the military accomplish? If anything that just gives him an even more twisted view of the world if it's done with out rationality, and makes him a even bigger liability to society.
How does the previous post suggest illegal vigilante justice ? when you are questioning people reaction to luxury crimes ? and saying there is no hope of redemption for this kind of cases ? . My purpose of suggesting that there exist redemption however it really depends on the law of that country and how justice is actually perceived by the people of korea there .
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On May 10 2013 16:26 Golgotha wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 15:12 endy wrote:
He'll have to go to the army sooner or later, and hopefully people there will make him pay for his actions. trust me he is fucked. no one likes a draft dodger and ESPECIALLY no one likes a wife abuser. He is fucked. Younger soldiers are going to give him hell. Good, he fucking deserves it. Who the fuck hurts their wife.
Unfortunatelly too many...
Only thing we can do is set a good example for our kids.
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On May 10 2013 17:20 Sawamura wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 17:10 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 15:53 Sawamura wrote:On May 10 2013 15:41 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 15:12 endy wrote:
He'll have to go to the army sooner or later, and hopefully people there will make him pay for his actions. Why even have a justice system when we condemn everyone with no hope of redemption, right? The criminal law doesn't stop crime only punishes crime after it has done and with that being said I think it really differs on which state they prefer the length of redemption are to be given for example in australia they are cases where murderers are expected to ask forgiveness from the family members that they have murdered and by doing this they hope the person who committed the crime will repent and feel remorse and guilt over the crimes they have committed . This is also called as restorative justice further explain in this link http://www.oneperth.com.au/2012/11/28/road-to-redemption/ where we don't throw person behind the bars of a cell and lock him forever without giving a chance for "redemption". I am not sure about korean law and what is the social norm and response for this kind of situation for wife abuse and the repercussion for committing this crimes. Although on further reflection, I think people can be divided on how much chance can we give to the people who commit the crime some prefer them to be punishable for live and branded as criminal for the things that they have committed and some are liberal and agreeable to a restoration some kind of a second chance for this people to be normal law abiding citizen . Why are you replying this to me when the previous post is suggesting illegal vigilante justice? On May 10 2013 16:05 endy wrote:On May 10 2013 15:41 Caihead wrote:On May 10 2013 15:12 endy wrote:
He'll have to go to the army sooner or later, and hopefully people there will make him pay for his actions. Why even have a justice system when we condemn everyone with no hope of redemption, right? I think he was given a chance but unlike his brother he didn't take it and instead kept dodging his military service and abusing his sick wife and in-laws. Except for the acid thing, which he denied, treating your wife like shit is not illegal and the justice system may never do anything about it, which is probably the very reason the wife felt that she needed to go public with her story. So what does getting beat up in the military accomplish? If anything that just gives him an even more twisted view of the world if it's done with out rationality, and makes him a even bigger liability to society. How does the previous post suggest illegal vigilante justice ? when you are questioning people reaction to luxury crimes ? and saying there is no hope of redemption for this kind of cases ? . My purpose of suggesting that there exist redemption however it really depends on the law of that country and how justice is actually perceived by the people of korea there .
... My post was sarcastic, endy basically implied that the people in the army would beat him up or treat him badly because of his reputation. I'm saying that type of attitude is incorrect and that redemption is possible for any person. It's perfectly natural for people to be outraged about luxury's actions, I'm fucking pissed off about it more so than alot of people. But wishing him harm and for "people to make him pay" isn't going to help anything. You beat up a bully, he either gets in a regressed slump and gets unproductive or gets more vengeful and hurt even more people. People in Asia know this perfectly well.
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