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glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
August 27 2012 19:03 GMT
#421
Matchfixing kills the integrity of competition. The fact that it was a whole bunch of progamers, including big names such as sAvior and Luxury (MSL champ) just made it even worse. For an upstart (relatively, compared to soccer and baseball) "sport", it's a stain that's almost permanent. It's not deathrow worthy, but it's definitely a major offense. Perhaps it may not be a big deal legally, but in terms of the damage, it's a class-A felony.

Back on topic, man, Luxury's really messed up eh? Idk why YellOw[Arnc] and him are so different...
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
Green Sun s Zenith
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada85 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 17:06:29
August 28 2012 16:59 GMT
#422
I truly believe that what ever crime a person does against anyone , should in return be done to them back. That being said I would like to threaten this piece of shit with acid and torture him until he is unrecognizable. I can't stand people who use animal cruelty as a way to deal with their shit life. Not to mention what he has done to his wife. What the fuck is wrong with this animal. Is it possible to create a field for torture of criminals , and place my self in the highest position? Maybe if I join the C.I.A or something I can get my hands on animals like these. But in reality joining the C.I.A would mean working against my own interest and ruining the world around me for elitist goals. I rather not be involved in overthrowing governments around the world and trafficking drugs and weapons. I am done here , before I go on a 9 page rant of how fucked up this world is , provided with facts.

I just want to add , how in the fuck are people commenting about the fixing of kespa matches . Some guy from Japan commenting about the fixing of matches and what should be done to him for that. Are you serious kid from Japan? I know you are fucked up when you comment on the fixing of matches while you see what this guy has done to animals in the past and to his wife recently. You know you play to much fucking games when all you care about is his stupid participation of fixing matches. "Not death row worthy" this guy says. You sir , are fucked in the head.

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PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
August 28 2012 18:29 GMT
#423
On August 29 2012 01:59 Green Sun s Zenith wrote:
I truly believe that what ever crime a person does against anyone , should in return be done to them back. That being said I would like to threaten this piece of shit with acid and torture him until he is unrecognizable. I can't stand people who use animal cruelty as a way to deal with their shit life. Not to mention what he has done to his wife. What the fuck is wrong with this animal. Is it possible to create a field for torture of criminals , and place my self in the highest position? Maybe if I join the C.I.A or something I can get my hands on animals like these. But in reality joining the C.I.A would mean working against my own interest and ruining the world around me for elitist goals. I rather not be involved in overthrowing governments around the world and trafficking drugs and weapons. I am done here , before I go on a 9 page rant of how fucked up this world is , provided with facts.

I just want to add , how in the fuck are people commenting about the fixing of kespa matches . Some guy from Japan commenting about the fixing of matches and what should be done to him for that. Are you serious kid from Japan? I know you are fucked up when you comment on the fixing of matches while you see what this guy has done to animals in the past and to his wife recently. You know you play to much fucking games when all you care about is his stupid participation of fixing matches. "Not death row worthy" this guy says. You sir , are fucked in the head.


With your extremely awful moral viewpoints the cycle of hate and hurt continues. What does torturing this guy really achieve other than YOUR sick pleasure? You're disgusting.
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
August 28 2012 18:36 GMT
#424
Must suck for Yarnc to have a brother that is so morally corrupt, let alone being a twin... Conscription isn't that of a big deal, the things that people do just to avoid baffles me.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
August 28 2012 19:04 GMT
#425
Yeah... I feel bad for YarnC, he always seemed like the nice guy. It must suck to have your older brother be such a dick.
ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
August 28 2012 19:10 GMT
#426
On August 24 2012 23:44 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 23:44 forumtext wrote:
What an asshole if this is true! What does he think he is, a hydralisk?

More like a bunker rush. Mofo.


On that note, I'm happy they had the good sense not to have children.
A time to live.
DylanRyder
Profile Joined August 2012
Turkey1 Post
August 28 2012 21:27 GMT
#427
I don't understand that.. What is sAviOr's effect to that happening????
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nOondn
Profile Joined March 2011
564 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 21:47:01
August 28 2012 21:46 GMT
#428
I can't find a word to drescribe this fucking trash behavior,why he exist in this world ... feel sad for the wife ,I hope she get well soon and met a better man.
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Burns
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2300 Posts
August 28 2012 21:49 GMT
#429
wtf luxury, also acid attacks are possibly the worst form of spousal abuse that i can think of
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ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 16:14:57
September 11 2012 16:14 GMT
#430
On August 29 2012 01:59 Green Sun s Zenith wrote:
I truly believe that what ever crime a person does against anyone , should in return be done to them back. That being said I would like to threaten this piece of shit with acid and torture him until he is unrecognizable. I can't stand people who use animal cruelty as a way to deal with their shit life. Not to mention what he has done to his wife. What the fuck is wrong with this animal. Is it possible to create a field for torture of criminals , and place my self in the highest position? Maybe if I join the C.I.A or something I can get my hands on animals like these. But in reality joining the C.I.A would mean working against my own interest and ruining the world around me for elitist goals. I rather not be involved in overthrowing governments around the world and trafficking drugs and weapons. I am done here , before I go on a 9 page rant of how fucked up this world is , provided with facts.

I just want to add , how in the fuck are people commenting about the fixing of kespa matches . Some guy from Japan commenting about the fixing of matches and what should be done to him for that. Are you serious kid from Japan? I know you are fucked up when you comment on the fixing of matches while you see what this guy has done to animals in the past and to his wife recently. You know you play to much fucking games when all you care about is his stupid participation of fixing matches. "Not death row worthy" this guy says. You sir , are fucked in the head.

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empty.bottle
Profile Joined July 2009
685 Posts
September 11 2012 17:48 GMT
#431
On August 29 2012 06:49 Burns wrote:
wtf luxury, also acid attacks are possibly the worst form of spousal abuse that i can think of

your mind is pretty sane then...
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
September 11 2012 21:16 GMT
#432
On August 28 2012 02:19 renzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 02:14 whatevername wrote:
On August 27 2012 09:15 renzy wrote:
On August 27 2012 07:49 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On August 27 2012 07:21 o[twist] wrote:
On August 27 2012 07:15 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Seriously, nobody has a clue about this whole story. It looks nasty, but it would be honest to admit that none of us knows anything about it, that the source is uncertain at best, and that we have the girl's version (rewritten in a sensationalistic way?) and that's it.

I know many couple that went badly and where one side of the story sounds horrible. Then you hear the other side and things get a bot more complex.

Well I guess people love to judge. It doesn't cost anything even when you are wrong.


i think most would agree that if somebody is making this up and it's not true, that person is pretty awful as well

people don't always have a great sense of this kind of thing but i think it's not bad. nobody would believe it if stork's girlfriend came out with these sorts of accusations, but with luxury's wife, well, somehow there's a lot of credulity. do you think maybe that might have something to do with whether or not they present themselves as actually good people? i think it might. regardless, if the stories are proven to be false, it'll be the wife that's terrible, not him

Well, world is usually not black and white.

Maybe Luxury is the monster described in this article, maybe his girlfriend is an awful liar, maybe they are just both lame. We don't know. And seriously, we are not Korean justice, so we shouldn't care. I'ma bit skeptical about people getting on their high horses and start throwing insults when they have no idea what they are talking about.

But as I said, we all feel better when we say that someone is terrible. And when we happen to be wrong, we are not the one being hurt, so why being any careful?

Sarcasm apart, this gossipy ambiance is not doing any good to anybody. And certainly not to esports in general; I know netizens love scandals, but it should be fomos responsibility to be a little careful before destroying a bit more people's reputation. I call that a public lynchage. I guess it should be left to the Sun, to Bild, to Fox News and other crap medias. Esports deserves better than this.


I think that getting as much information as you can before making any judgement is great. However, that information/motives can be hypothesized given a certain amount of facts. We don't always need people to explicitly state it to know what they're thinking or why they did what they did.

Here are the facts: We know of Luxury's previous bad deed (match fixing). We know he was going to enter the military after being banned from progaming. He has gotten a letter from DoD saying that he does not have to do his military service (something along that line), meaning he does not want to do his military service. He married someone with an autoimmune disorder (basically a handicapped person) but has then abused her (this is a fact because Luxury has admitted this). His wife had to have surgery twice because of her condition and he had a toe infection from wearing shoes that are too small (this is also a fact from his wife's blog, I'm not including the motives/causes because they are opinions). In Korea, one could possibly avoid military service if they need to be home to take care of an ill person.

With only this much information and ignoring everything that might contain an opinion, I think it is extremely likely that the one conclusion we can get out of this is that Luxury married his wife for another reason aside from/besides love, and that is to possibly evade military service. Because his plans didn't work, he takes his anger out on his wife, whose "job" was to help him evade military work. In my books, he's already a douche bag for doing this, because a good person would not use someone's love to help themselves evade military service.

If you're still skeptical, step back for a moment and think about it. Would someone who threw matches for money and almost killed eSports marry a person, who is basically handicapped for the rest of their lives, out of love?
Ummm TL really overblows the immorality of match fixing. It's a minor case of fraud, and yes I do think its quite possible that someone who engages in fraud also can love the handicapped.


Minor case of fraud? MINOR? They almost tore the entire scene down and you call it minor? Go and learn more about the match fixing and the consequences and reactions by people in Korea before you call it a minor case of fraud.


That's not the issue.

The issue is that people are jumping on the fact that matchfixing somehow makes your more liable to A) not love handicapped people and B) more likely to abuse your spouse.

Both of those are so ridiculous it's insane. In terms of the immorality of it, it's relatively minor compared to say THREATENING YOUR WIFE WITH ACID. The difference between someone who can commit a violent crime and those who cannot has little to do about their capability to commit fraud. There is valley there between the required immorality.

I always knew Luxury was a dick I just wasn't aware he was borderline psychopath.
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Dontkillme
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)806 Posts
September 12 2012 00:15 GMT
#433
WTF.
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cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
October 08 2012 08:00 GMT
#434
Any updates?
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2116 Posts
October 08 2012 12:25 GMT
#435
He needs a psychiatrist or a jail cell o.O
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arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
October 08 2012 14:28 GMT
#436
I'm surprised at the general consensus of people here. Everybody knows already that he's guilty and what punishment he should receive! How about we let the justice do its job?

I haven't seen a word from the other side of the coin. All the judgements are done based on his wife's diary. I think maybe somebody wants to ask Luxury as well about the situation? Life in marriage is not always honey and sugar.
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Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 16:23:50
October 08 2012 16:23 GMT
#437
Not really anything substantial to argue about. Her dairy entry is nothing I would base judgement on. If it was Luxury telling his story it might just as well be a wife marrying for money then framing her husband.
If the allegations are true- well, with so many (korean) progamers out there there's bound to be some serious assholes among them. Chill out kids.
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Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium927 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 16:38:53
October 08 2012 16:35 GMT
#438
Well, its not because you are famous or a pro gamer that you cant be a bad person. It may seem as a surprise to some, but this stuff happens all the time, whether both with famous or non famous people.
ofc assuming it is true, but even if it werent true there are still plenty of other cases. Even on this very website there are bound to be some bad apples who treat others badly. I think anyone can simply understand that thats just the way it is, how unfortunate it may be, but there is no reason to accept this kind of behaviour, no matter who the person that conducts this behaviour might be.
-_-Quails
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia796 Posts
October 09 2012 02:18 GMT
#439
On October 09 2012 01:23 Monsen wrote:
Not really anything substantial to argue about. Her dairy entry is nothing I would base judgement on. If it was Luxury telling his story it might just as well be a wife marrying for money then framing her husband.
If the allegations are true- well, with so many (korean) progamers out there there's bound to be some serious assholes among them. Chill out kids.

He has already admitted to abusing her - even his account of events includes him abusing her. That lends enough credibility to her account of events that it is not unreasonable to base judgement on it.
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EienShinwa
Profile Joined May 2010
United States655 Posts
October 09 2012 02:44 GMT
#440
I'm sorry, but that guy is a piece of shit. Domestic abuse is something I find no tolerance for at all. Home is the one place you should always count on to be a comforting and safe place. Not only does he abuse her, but he fucking married her to dodge mandatory military training? I sincerely hope his wife gets separation as soon as possible and takes this asshole to court. His mom also sounds like the typical ignorant mother-in-law.
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