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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
June 19 2012 23:47 GMT
#1
With Nadas retirement from progaming today I found myself taking a trip down memory lane. Even though he hasn't been playing broodwar it still felt like the chapter officially closed today and spurned me on to enjoy some of my favorite moments from Nada's broodwar career.

In my book NaDa is still the the "statistically" most accomplished Terran player to have ever played Broodwar. 31 top 3 finishes in major tournaments vs Flash's 13. 656 overall wins in recorded league/tournament wins vs Flash's 491. Nobody else really comes close to Nada when it comes to some of these stats. Of course Nada has been around since 2001 compared to Flash ~2007 so theoretically Flash would obviously pass him eventually but until then Nada is king. Regardless, Nada is unquestionably one of the top 5 best Terran players to have ever played Broodwar, he is one of the 4 Terran bonjwas. When you go back and make a list of the 5 best Terran players your list is going to look something like (in no particular order): Boxer, Oov, Nada, Flash, insert 5th guy here.

The impact Nada made on Broodwar was immense. He was by far one of my favorite players to watch and when I was going back this evening revisiting some of my favorite moments I realized there are quite a few Nada moments which I can remember as if the game was played yesterday. The legacy he left behind in broodwar is really amazing. Most of these games I watched live or remember extremely well for one reason or another. None of the series are even series or games Nada won but the games made such an impact on me and my bw following I felt like sharing them.

Nada vs Gorush YATGK MSL - Feburary 6th 2005

One of the more famous broodwar games including two of the most famous broodwar moments ever, the epic "PLAGYUUUUU" moment which probably most Starcraft 2 fans even know about and Nadas "medic wall" move to defend against a maxed ultra/ling + dark swarm attack attempt into his natural. By far one of the coolest oldschool tvz's you'll find anywhere.


ShinHan Bank OSL 2006 - Season 3 Finals February 24, 2007


This OSL finals played between Nada and Savior was actually the first OSL finals I was able to watch live. I had been following broodwar for some time before but never managed to get a livestream working until this event. All 4 games of this series I remember so well, especially Nadas bunker rush attempt on Hitchhiker in game 4 when Nada was down 1-2. Was so ridiculously close it was insane. Every game is worth watching of this series. Nada and Savior actually met a bunch of times in a really short period of time in major events around this time, I believe shortly after this OSL finals they met again in a bo5 in another special tournament of some sort.

Nada vs Jangbi Lost Saga MSL - March 5th 2009

Nada had a pretty rough 2008 for whatever reason but made a pretty crazy comeback in early 2009 and found himself in a series here in MSL vs Jangbi. this was game 1 and honestly Nada plays a perfect game. TvP is probably the hardest matchup for terran in broodwar and this game was on a slightly protoss favored map. Nada would eventually go on to lose the series 2-3 and never really go deep in another MSL or OSL so in some ways this is one of the last great games Nada ever showed in an individual league. It's a game I used to watch whenever I needed inspiration.

might add to this list later. in the meantime feel free to share games or moments or just enjoy some of these amazing broodwar games.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
June 19 2012 23:57 GMT
#2
Tis a sad day :'(
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
TenJin`Lucian
Profile Joined August 2011
Costa Rica158 Posts
June 20 2012 00:04 GMT
#3
He gave us so much, unfortunately I was not there through all his history, but since the first time I started watching BW he was, still is, and always will be my favorite player. Guess all I can say is thank you (T)NaDa, for all your hard work and contributions.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
June 20 2012 00:05 GMT
#4
I hated Jangbi for over a year after he made NaDa cry.

If I was asked to pick 3 games of NaDa during the modern BW era, I would have picked those three too !
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10324 Posts
June 20 2012 00:11 GMT
#5
On June 20 2012 09:05 endy wrote:
I hated Jangbi for over a year after he made NaDa cry.

If I was asked to pick 3 games of NaDa during the modern BW era, I would have picked those three too !


Nada's had such a freakishly long BW career lol... and him coming back in 2009? that was only 3 years ago, shortly before he switched to SC2. It's amazing how good he was for such a long time. If only he didn't have to go to the military, he might have [continued to be] a top SC2 player despite his age.
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Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 20 2012 00:20 GMT
#6
Nada vs Jangbi always reminds me of Iris vs Bisu.
Both are so inspirational when thinking about someone past their prime.
☺
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 00:21:27
June 20 2012 00:20 GMT
#7
Yeah I didn't really start following till 2005-2006ish so most of his early career I'm not too familiar with.

edit: Iris vs Bisu is like my all time favorite TvP bo5 ever lol.
ii.blitzkrieg
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
June 20 2012 00:27 GMT
#8
Never was a huge NaDa fan, but the first live games I ever watched was the OSL finals between him and anytime.

My most prominent memories of him are the same as yours and him repeatedly getting owned by oov.

Goodbye NaDa! Though I guess we will see him 1 last time in the legends match.
iloveoov / Flash / Fantasy / Midas / Boxer -BW forever
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
June 20 2012 00:33 GMT
#9
The entire Nada vs Jangbi series is amazing. I don't think I cheered for another player as much as I did for Nada in that game 5. I have to rewatch the GoRush game, it's to good.
Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP
Cam Connor
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada786 Posts
June 20 2012 00:40 GMT
#10
i haven't been this heartbroken since 2009 vs jangbi
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CosmicHippo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States547 Posts
June 20 2012 00:44 GMT
#11
Good stuff, cool to watch these videos again
Yeah i've got your zerg riiiight here! *gulps beer*
Jonvvv
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Norway1530 Posts
June 20 2012 00:58 GMT
#12
NaDa <3

Another epic game:
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rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
June 20 2012 00:59 GMT
#13
It's always so hard to say goodbye.

NaDa will be missed.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Sgany
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom790 Posts
June 20 2012 01:17 GMT
#14
Only news like this could ruin my birthday :'(
Thank you NaDa, you got me into Starcraft, and thus changed my life <3
I'll take the memories you gave me to my grave.
<3
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NaDa <3, MMA <3, Bisu <3,
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
June 20 2012 01:25 GMT
#15
(best drop ever)

(for the fOru game)
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5594 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 01:45:50
June 20 2012 01:33 GMT
#16
And like that he goes out with a whimper. These are sad days.

I remember that amazing series vs Jangbi. I remember how hard he fought and how heart broken he looked afterwards. It was the real end of his career.

edit 2: We need to get Mortality to write a big post about Nada...
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2547 Posts
June 20 2012 01:35 GMT
#17
Good luck in your future NaDa, I think I should take some time to watch some old VODs for the nostalgia.

Man it's been a while, ive been watching the pro korean since the Boxer era, I feel old T_T.
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
June 20 2012 01:48 GMT
#18
Haha you choose only games where he lost and the other players destroyed him... So cruel.

Nada was always the trooper who stuck it through even when the games looked unfavourable. He had perhaps the strongest spirit of any progamer I've watched, including Flash. Nada overcame not just the game, but massive personal tragedies which would have sent many other players into retirement never to return.

Nada is a name we all looked for in replays back in the day. Something like "BlueEyes" on WGT one season gave replays for us to salivate over. He played with Grrr... and he played with Flash. He played with Yellow and he played with Anytime. You just have to love this guy who has been around for so long, was relevent for so long that even the top players of today owe a lot to him.

He's a special person you don't see often, in progaming or in any aspect of life.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 20 2012 02:11 GMT
#19
You know what was sad?

When Blizzard outlawed [..]alias tags and we could only put it after on B.Net.

Those were the days.
ii.blitzkrieg
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
June 20 2012 02:17 GMT
#20
[image loading]

iloveoov / Flash / Fantasy / Midas / Boxer -BW forever
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2257 Posts
June 20 2012 02:28 GMT
#21
What a Legend...
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
June 20 2012 02:30 GMT
#22
In terms of absolute skill, it's Flash. He's the best StarCraft player of all time. That's not the same as being the greatest, though.

When it comes to the greatest of all time, it's Nada. The only other player that could be said to be similarly good career over such a long period of time would be Stork, but even then he never dominated the way Nada did back in the day.
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10121 Posts
June 20 2012 02:32 GMT
#23
The game I remember best outside of the ones mentioned is the game vs foru where foru had 55 gates vs Nada's 8 fac and Nada tornado terraned the FUCK outta him.
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
June 20 2012 06:10 GMT
#24
Yeah kinda weird how all my favorite/most memorable Nada games are ones where he loses...didn't really realize that.

I guess they were just super epic games or series in general. Jealous you should link to that game, I searched for a bit but couldn't find it. I watched so many old bw vods today. I miss the glory days of bw man. >_>
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51428 Posts
June 20 2012 06:24 GMT
#25
Here are some of my most memorable games with Nada in them (that haven't been posted yet)


Xellos had a perfect record on Bifrost at the time (hence his nickname 'Perfect Terran'). Nada was the first player to defeat him on it.


Until Flash's comeback vs firebathero, this was probably in my books, the greatest comeback in the history of progaming. Shame it hasn't been talked about as much as it should had.


Nada had been on an insane TvZ rampage at the time, showcasing his new SK terran style to perfection. It would not be until this game against Savior that exposed the weaknesses of his build.

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Wockets
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong467 Posts
June 20 2012 06:49 GMT
#26
On June 20 2012 11:32 Jealous wrote:
The game I remember best outside of the ones mentioned is the game vs foru where foru had 55 gates vs Nada's 8 fac and Nada tornado terraned the FUCK outta him.

I remembered that too man, NaDa be ballin'!
His consistency over such a long career is unparalleled... Stork comes close to that but his lack of gold medals is the main difference.
Kogan
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany84 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 07:57:54
June 20 2012 07:57 GMT
#27
first of the games 18:40 watched it like 5 times xD
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
June 20 2012 08:34 GMT
#28
Oh Nada, you have left a wonderful and exciting legacy. You will never be forgotten, thanks for all the memories and awesome dedication. You have inspired millions!
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3417 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 08:45:23
June 20 2012 08:42 GMT
#29
<3




craz3d
Profile Joined August 2005
Bulgaria856 Posts
June 20 2012 09:20 GMT
#30
I recall a game against forU where the toss had the map and something like 30 gates. Nada managed to win the game on 2 bases with 10 factories.

Ahhh, good times. All we can do is wish the man good luck in his future endeavors and thank him for the memories.
Hello World!
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
June 20 2012 09:23 GMT
#31
On June 20 2012 18:20 craz3d wrote:
I recall a game against forU where the toss had the map and something like 30 gates. Nada managed to win the game on 2 bases with 10 factories.

Ahhh, good times. All we can do is wish the man good luck in his future endeavors and thank him for the memories.

I linked it on the last page =)
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
sheaRZerg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States613 Posts
June 20 2012 10:53 GMT
#32
Threads like this make me so sad for all the great starcraft I missed before I knew it existed.

Good luck, Nada.
"Dude, just don't listen to what I say; listen to what I mean." -Sean Plott
~chut~
Profile Joined September 2003
France1317 Posts
June 20 2012 11:02 GMT
#33
I hated Nada for coming back from 0-2 against Yellow in KPGA 2nd tour. Then i hated him even more when he did the same against Gorush in IOPS OSL semi final.
But it's true he's an all time great and his play had a huge impact on bw.
As BW is dying, it feels strange to see all these pro who played when i started watching the pro scene retire. I think they're all retired now, except Boxer, but is he still really playing?
It looks like my bw-time is over too, i feel a little blue.
Skwid1g
Profile Joined April 2011
United States953 Posts
June 20 2012 11:27 GMT
#34
Nada completely changed the way I looked at Starcraft and video games in general. In 2000 I played through the campaign as a child and was far too young to understand the depth and complexity of the game (and pre-BW was also shitty, but that's kind of irrelevant) I was playing.

It wasn't until late 2003/early 2004 that my friend showed me a video from the Stout MSL between Nada and Boxer where Nada won that I realized "There are screaming fan girls? They're THIS good at Starcraft? I have no idea what's going on strategically, but I'm still at the edge of my seat? What the fuck is going on!?" and from then on I've watched Starcraft, and from then on NaDa has been my favorite player.

Yes, Flash is the most dominant player of all time; Boxer the most influential, but what NaDa did, in my opinion, is the most impressive. It didn't matter how many times he got knocked down in-game or in real life, he always came back. It could take a week, a month, or even longer, but you always knew that NaDa wasn't going anywhere. He was the one constant that lasted for basically the entirety of professional BW. He was the one player you could never count out, he was the one player that adapted to every change in the game with seeming ease, he was the one player who could continue a ridiculous practice regime for years and years, and that's why I respect him and his play so much.

If it wasn't for NaDa I probably would have never watched professional BW, nor would I have accepted that "e-Sports" really existed. It's strange thinking that the one constant in Starcraft is going to finally leave, but I'm glad to have been able to watch him for as many years as I was able to. It makes me regret not being old enough to go to a finals he was in and get to meet him, but if his health is declining I suppose it's for the best. It's times like these that make me hate SK's mandatory military service :\
NaDa/Fantasy/Zero/Soulkey pls
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
June 20 2012 12:06 GMT
#35
His post-game interview after winning the golden mouse. That's what defines NaDa for me.
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craz3d
Profile Joined August 2005
Bulgaria856 Posts
June 20 2012 12:08 GMT
#36
On June 20 2012 18:23 corumjhaelen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 18:20 craz3d wrote:
I recall a game against forU where the toss had the map and something like 30 gates. Nada managed to win the game on 2 bases with 10 factories.

Ahhh, good times. All we can do is wish the man good luck in his future endeavors and thank him for the memories.

I linked it on the last page =)


Thanks man!
Hello World!
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
June 20 2012 12:10 GMT
#37
God I miss those days. Some of the guys here are too young for that, but the era when they dressed with garbage-cleaner style spacesuits and LT was standard in tournaments was so glorious.

It almost makes me cry of nostalgia.
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
June 20 2012 12:21 GMT
#38
What a legendary player. It's almost astounding to think about how good he was for such a long period of time. I remember even in his Wemadefox days being surprised that he could still keep up in Proleague whenever he was sent out. He has been and will continue to be missed.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
June 20 2012 12:26 GMT
#39
Thanks for posting this. I mainly know Nada as a SC2 player and have only seen a few of his BW matches. This gives me a greater understanding of his abilities. I enjoyed Nada's play alot in SC2 but it was clear he was in his twilight. It is exciting to see him in his prime in these games.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Wonders
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Australia753 Posts
June 20 2012 12:36 GMT
#40
I remember devouring his WGTour replay pack when he was called Skyinthsea. I tried so hard to copy his builds and his style and felt on top of the world when I pulled off his then trademark well-positioned 4 tank drop in the part of the main overlooking the minonly on Lost Temple.

He's just such a huge part of what made Starcraft what it is.
Keone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States812 Posts
June 20 2012 13:48 GMT
#41
</3

Nada T_T
BW Forever. Flash is the Ultimate Bonjwa.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
June 20 2012 13:49 GMT
#42
a bit unfortunate that in the OP 2/3 videos are losses and the 3rd video is a win but out of a series he lost in the most heartbreaking way ^^
thanks anyways, nice thread, this can become the nada worshipping thread where people actually talk about his skill and his games, not just his body =)
beep boop
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
June 20 2012 16:30 GMT
#43
A little history about events in the OP:

I believe the medic wall game was the 1st game of the MSL finals. Back then MSL was double elimination and NaDa had already faced Gorush in the Winner's Bracket finals and won 3-2. Then he faced Gorush in the Finals and lost 4-2 in games (so effectively 4-3 in score because he was WB champ). The next games NaDa would play would also be against Gorush, this time in the IOPS OSL semifinals where Gorush started the series up 2-0 and initially had the advantage in the third game, but NaDa turned things around for a reverse sweep before sweeping July in the finals. In a very short period of only about a month these two faced each other 16 times.

Regarding Savior: the first time I noticed Savior was when he defeated NaDa on Luna in the group stage of MSL, I think Uzoo MSL. It was a one-sided curb stomp, but most people still considered Savior a one match wonder at the time (ZvP), which in hindsight is one of the most ludicrous things I have ever heard. As Savior rose to complete dominance, CJ started featuring him as the main star of their Superfight events, which featured Savior demolishing players like Boxer, Oov and NaDa. Ultimately, NaDa became the first Terran to defeat Savior in a Bo5 when they met in OGN Masters. So lots of history there.

You can almost identify top players by the rivalries they had with NaDa. He was that much of a staple of elite Starcraft play over such a long time.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
June 20 2012 17:23 GMT
#44
Nada....the first child prodigy to walk the Royal Road. Too many SC2 fans have no idea just how successful he was and how long he has been in the scene.
I hope he comes back to esports after the military even if it's just to be a coach or commentator.
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dr.shrinker
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway369 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 18:26:22
June 20 2012 18:17 GMT
#45
Yeah, that sucks. I hope "Nada's Body" will be gone fairly soon now that the player retires.
Szgk
Profile Joined May 2010
Poland112 Posts
June 20 2012 21:35 GMT
#46
NaDa vs. Sync on River of Flames in 2002 KPGA 3 was the first pro game I've ever seen and it got me hooked.
radadaundandan
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria3148 Posts
June 20 2012 21:53 GMT
#47
NaDa... cant express myself with words. You played a huge role in my life! You made me dream and want to become something big. Wish you best of luck mate! Farewell...
Flash returns...
[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
June 20 2012 23:20 GMT
#48
ToT vs sea clanwars come to mind
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
June 20 2012 23:50 GMT
#49
The first time I saw Nada play was a game vs. Reach from the Panasonic OSL on NFZ. Reach was the man back then (defending starleague champion) but Nada crushed him with a vulture drop that blew up ALL of reach's probes via spider mine splash. I still have the old .asf video of that game on a CD-ROM somewhere. Reach gave one of those "Did that really just happen!?" faces right after.

I was never a fan, but it's impossible not to respect Nada for his achievements. No one else played at such a high level for so long a period of time. What a legend.
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
June 21 2012 00:04 GMT
#50
NaDa was like one of those godlike entities on the BW scene in Korea.
whenever he would play, i would sense all of his confidence and charisma; nothing ever came down to just his play.
i'm sure that most people would see how he would hold his mouse and want to copy his very existence in the world of BW--all while feeling his achievements.

it honestly is hard for a word to take a large hold in your life, but when NaDa went into GSL it instantly became nail-biting because it was nada. that word became a tag for him, and a term for greatness since the earliest days.
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Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
June 21 2012 02:25 GMT
#51
Speaking of mines, that reminds me: Nada highlight reel produced just after his IOPS win




quality is not great unfortunately...
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
CPTBadAss
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States594 Posts
June 21 2012 03:00 GMT
#52
Wow, I had no idea that Plaguuuu came from a Nada game. Thanks for the fun facts and links to videos for us who didn't follow BW as much
I'll keep on struggling, 'cause that's the measure of a man | "That was the plan: To give him some hope, and then crush him" -Stephano
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