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LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
June 15 2012 09:30 GMT
#21
yuks...
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
June 15 2012 09:33 GMT
#22
On June 15 2012 18:21 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 18:06 M2 wrote:
arent progamers like grape loosing some of their competitive adavntage in games like LoL, Dota? I mean their hand speed, reaction time maybe even practicing habits will not pay off in a game where the team play is way more valuable, people that are pretty good, not exceptional, but have good team strategy will most likely have what it takes to take a game. In individual games like sc1, sc2 their individual skills will shine so much more

Current LoL players aren't even close to demonstrating where the skill cap is for the game, and one reason for that is that most current LoL players don't really have outstanding mechanical ability. Most of the players who are known for their mechanics are either Chinese or Korean, and it seems fitting or likely that BW players would be able to demonstrate how much LoL skill can really be derived from blindingly fast mechanics and reaction time.

I'd argue that experience and knowledge plays far bigger role in Dota/Lol, which is something they don't have right now. Throw in the fact that the balance in LoL shifts with every patch, you have quite volatile environment to hone your mechanics.
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ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
June 15 2012 09:39 GMT
#23
Samsung. Sponsor them!
nitdkim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1264 Posts
June 15 2012 09:40 GMT
#24
On June 15 2012 18:33 Zaphid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 18:21 infinitestory wrote:
On June 15 2012 18:06 M2 wrote:
arent progamers like grape loosing some of their competitive adavntage in games like LoL, Dota? I mean their hand speed, reaction time maybe even practicing habits will not pay off in a game where the team play is way more valuable, people that are pretty good, not exceptional, but have good team strategy will most likely have what it takes to take a game. In individual games like sc1, sc2 their individual skills will shine so much more

Current LoL players aren't even close to demonstrating where the skill cap is for the game, and one reason for that is that most current LoL players don't really have outstanding mechanical ability. Most of the players who are known for their mechanics are either Chinese or Korean, and it seems fitting or likely that BW players would be able to demonstrate how much LoL skill can really be derived from blindingly fast mechanics and reaction time.

I'd argue that experience and knowledge plays far bigger role in Dota/Lol, which is something they don't have right now. Throw in the fact that the balance in LoL shifts with every patch, you have quite volatile environment to hone your mechanics.

balance doesn't affect mechanics lol...
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Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 09:42:38
June 15 2012 09:41 GMT
#25
So the rumours were true then, thanks GTR!

I'm not surprised, it was established for some time that the avenue for retirement for BW pros is not SCToo, but LoL instead. Guess we know now where Stork is gonna go in the future xD

On June 15 2012 18:39 ShadeR wrote:
Samsung. Sponsor them!

This is a good idea actually, since LoL is very big in Korea it'd make a lot of sense for Samsung to sponsor a team.
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hydrogg
Profile Joined September 2011
United States377 Posts
June 15 2012 09:42 GMT
#26
On June 15 2012 18:33 Zaphid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 18:21 infinitestory wrote:
On June 15 2012 18:06 M2 wrote:
arent progamers like grape loosing some of their competitive adavntage in games like LoL, Dota? I mean their hand speed, reaction time maybe even practicing habits will not pay off in a game where the team play is way more valuable, people that are pretty good, not exceptional, but have good team strategy will most likely have what it takes to take a game. In individual games like sc1, sc2 their individual skills will shine so much more

Current LoL players aren't even close to demonstrating where the skill cap is for the game, and one reason for that is that most current LoL players don't really have outstanding mechanical ability. Most of the players who are known for their mechanics are either Chinese or Korean, and it seems fitting or likely that BW players would be able to demonstrate how much LoL skill can really be derived from blindingly fast mechanics and reaction time.

I'd argue that experience and knowledge plays far bigger role in Dota/Lol, which is something they don't have right now. Throw in the fact that the balance in LoL shifts with every patch, you have quite volatile environment to hone your mechanics.


Isn't that also true of SC2 though? They don't have much knowledge of SC2 either right now, there are constant balance patches in SC2, and HOTS and LOTV are still to be released.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
June 15 2012 10:21 GMT
#27
On June 15 2012 18:42 hydrogg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 18:33 Zaphid wrote:
On June 15 2012 18:21 infinitestory wrote:
On June 15 2012 18:06 M2 wrote:
arent progamers like grape loosing some of their competitive adavntage in games like LoL, Dota? I mean their hand speed, reaction time maybe even practicing habits will not pay off in a game where the team play is way more valuable, people that are pretty good, not exceptional, but have good team strategy will most likely have what it takes to take a game. In individual games like sc1, sc2 their individual skills will shine so much more

Current LoL players aren't even close to demonstrating where the skill cap is for the game, and one reason for that is that most current LoL players don't really have outstanding mechanical ability. Most of the players who are known for their mechanics are either Chinese or Korean, and it seems fitting or likely that BW players would be able to demonstrate how much LoL skill can really be derived from blindingly fast mechanics and reaction time.

I'd argue that experience and knowledge plays far bigger role in Dota/Lol, which is something they don't have right now. Throw in the fact that the balance in LoL shifts with every patch, you have quite volatile environment to hone your mechanics.


Isn't that also true of SC2 though? They don't have much knowledge of SC2 either right now, there are constant balance patches in SC2, and HOTS and LOTV are still to be released.


SC2: Small balance adjustments every 2 month.
LoL: Significant balance changes (especially with new champs) about every 2 weeks.

Quite the difference.
Of course HotS and LotV will really screw balance over, but it's not like expansions are released all the time.


So many people switching to LoL makes me a sad pandabearguy

The game is fun to play, yes, but winning 1v1 games feels a lot better... then again, losing in 1v1 games feels a lot worse, too, while in MOBA you can always blame it on your teammates.

Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 10:24:22
June 15 2012 10:23 GMT
#28
Good luck to them

also the delight winning games 1v1 as opposed to 5v5 is a matter of opinion is it not? I like celebrating my victory with the teammates I have more then I do alone.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 15 2012 10:23 GMT
#29
On June 15 2012 17:09 LeapofFaith wrote:
Hmmm any reason why quite a few ex-SC players are moving to LoL?

after such a stressful career they choose something relaxed and easy to make money off
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Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
June 15 2012 10:41 GMT
#30
LoL over SC2. kekekeke
LoL is pretty fun, tried it out, but my allegiance is to Dota2.
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
June 15 2012 10:43 GMT
#31
On June 15 2012 18:21 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 18:06 M2 wrote:
arent progamers like grape loosing some of their competitive adavntage in games like LoL, Dota? I mean their hand speed, reaction time maybe even practicing habits will not pay off in a game where the team play is way more valuable, people that are pretty good, not exceptional, but have good team strategy will most likely have what it takes to take a game. In individual games like sc1, sc2 their individual skills will shine so much more

Current LoL players aren't even close to demonstrating where the skill cap is for the game, and one reason for that is that most current LoL players don't really have outstanding mechanical ability. Most of the players who are known for their mechanics are either Chinese or Korean, and it seems fitting or likely that BW players would be able to demonstrate how much LoL skill can really be derived from blindingly fast mechanics and reaction time.

pure mechanics don't have as much impact on the game as you seem to be thinking.
the reason the skill cap hasn't been hit already is because it requires 5 people to function well together as opposed to 1 person.

you already have LoL players with top notch mechanics but you still see them fail repeatedly during tournaments such as doublelift who can cs perfectly and has some of the best positioning abilities in the world but continues to be completely retarded past laning phase without his team telling him what to do and when to do it
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
June 15 2012 10:45 GMT
#32
I have a feeling that, it is just a beginning of the great exodus. If SC2 won't get any significant spectator popularity soon, which I think it doesn't, we know how it will all end.
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 10:46:52
June 15 2012 10:46 GMT
#33
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
June 15 2012 10:59 GMT
#34
Well good luck to them, i hope they find the sucsess they are hoping for, but i wish they had stuck around for sc2. ahh well such is life.
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nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 11:00:09
June 15 2012 10:59 GMT
#35
On June 15 2012 19:21 Morfildur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 18:42 hydrogg wrote:
On June 15 2012 18:33 Zaphid wrote:
On June 15 2012 18:21 infinitestory wrote:
On June 15 2012 18:06 M2 wrote:
arent progamers like grape loosing some of their competitive adavntage in games like LoL, Dota? I mean their hand speed, reaction time maybe even practicing habits will not pay off in a game where the team play is way more valuable, people that are pretty good, not exceptional, but have good team strategy will most likely have what it takes to take a game. In individual games like sc1, sc2 their individual skills will shine so much more

Current LoL players aren't even close to demonstrating where the skill cap is for the game, and one reason for that is that most current LoL players don't really have outstanding mechanical ability. Most of the players who are known for their mechanics are either Chinese or Korean, and it seems fitting or likely that BW players would be able to demonstrate how much LoL skill can really be derived from blindingly fast mechanics and reaction time.

I'd argue that experience and knowledge plays far bigger role in Dota/Lol, which is something they don't have right now. Throw in the fact that the balance in LoL shifts with every patch, you have quite volatile environment to hone your mechanics.


Isn't that also true of SC2 though? They don't have much knowledge of SC2 either right now, there are constant balance patches in SC2, and HOTS and LOTV are still to be released.


SC2: Small balance adjustments every 2 month.
LoL: Significant balance changes (especially with new champs) about every 2 weeks.

Quite the difference.
Of course HotS and LotV will really screw balance over, but it's not like expansions are released all the time.


So many people switching to LoL makes me a sad pandabearguy

The game is fun to play, yes, but winning 1v1 games feels a lot better... then again, losing in 1v1 games feels a lot worse, too, while in MOBA you can always blame it on your teammates.


It's always the teammate's fault whenever I loses a MOBA. At least it helps me sleep every night.
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
June 15 2012 11:06 GMT
#36
lol is huge compered to sc2
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 11:17:09
June 15 2012 11:16 GMT
#37
if they are happy then all is right.

I know people look down on LoL but whatever its is just respect his decision.
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
June 15 2012 11:18 GMT
#38
LoL >>>>>>>>>> SC2 just in terms of popularity.

Can't blame em.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
June 15 2012 11:25 GMT
#39
I hope Stork join them rather than him playing sc2.
Samsung to sponsor this team!
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
June 15 2012 11:25 GMT
#40
On June 15 2012 18:39 ShadeR wrote:
Samsung. Sponsor them!


ya, CJ has LoL team why can't Samsung have one too, and while they are at it KT LoL team please with YellOw and Reach as Coaches.
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