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[PL Interview] T8 vs KT

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rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 19:01:28
May 27 2012 18:57 GMT
#1
[SK Planet] Team8's (Z)Jaedong: "Have faith and wait for me"

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When Jaedong lost to KT Rolster's (Z)Crazy-Hydra in SC2, it was deemed that he was lacking in terms of skill in the new game. However, Jaedong put on a completely new face in the ace match and lead his team to victory by beating (P)Lizzy. [I swear his name was Motive when I was watching it live, but oh well, I may be mistaken] Jaedong said "It's too early to be making judgements about my SC2 skills" and emphasized that "I am practicing hard, so I hope the fans can have patience."

Q Your team's first win.
A It tasted so sweet. Even though I dropped a game in today's match, the team was desperate for a victory. I think the pain of losing went away with our team winning. It feels good to have won in the ace match.

Q Amongst TBLS [(P)Bisu, (P)Stork, (T)Flash, (Z)Jaedong], Flash was the first to win. Does that bother you?
A Nope. It's not like we've been losing every game, either. However it does add pressure, and I'm sure the other two have been feeling the same. At this point, there are expectations for TBLS and other A class players to produce results. I feel that way as well. I have been practicing hard. My head is filled with thoughts of Starcraft 24/7. It's hard to truly relax even during breaks. For my fans, I need to bring my skills up a notch higher.

Q Were you planned to play in the ace match?
A I was confident. I think the coaching staff put faith in me as well.

Q Did you copy (Z)Stephano's play in the ace match.
A Yes, I followed his play style. Honestly, I don't have the confidence that I will win every game in SC2 just yet. I don't have a solid grasp on the underlying concepts. I don't think I am at a level where you can compare my play to that of other zerg players such as Stephano.

Q Were you expecting Lizzy in ace.
A Yes. However I didn't prepare for the ace match. I trusted my experience. I focused more on preparing for Crazy-hydra. I feel the situation leading up to my victory in ace was quite strange and I just somehow won [Anybody have any idea what he is referring to? Was the game strange or did something happen? Only watched the ace match and I don't understand SC2 lol]

Q You lost your game to Crazy-hydra even though you had the advantage.
A Even as I was playing I could feel my skill was not up to par. Even when I win it doesn't feel like I won. I need some more time. [Losing in SC2] feels different from losing in BW [T/N: The original article made an error here, so I tried to guess what JD would have said given the context. The original article says "It feels different from losing in Starcraft:Wings of Liberty (ie SC1) [sic]." which was why I was confused.]. That should be enough evidence that my skills [in SC2] are not up to par.

Q There must be alot of stress associated with practicing SC2
A I believe that time will solve the struggles I am having in-game. I try not to get stressed out, because I know I am lacking in skill. I will get better if I keep practicing at this pace. This season does require you to be good at both SC1 and SC2, nonetheless. I think that doubles the amount of stress.

Q You will be playing SC1 vs Airforce ACE
A Some may say [switching back and forth] is difficult but that's a commonality for all players, so I believe it is a level playing field. A professional must strive for the best results, no matter what the situation at hand may be.

Q Any last words?
A We got our first victory, but there is still a long road ahead. My teammates probably felt it was difficult to get that first win as well. I don't think we lack in terms of skill relative to other teams. I want to do well in the matches that are left. I feel the fans must be worried, because there is no guarantee that SC1 skills transfer over to SC2. In their perspective, where they are rooting for a specific player, that must cause alot of anxiety. I just want to say, have faith and wait for me. I have confidence to become among the best in SC2 as well.

Source: Daily E-sports
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rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 19:00:29
May 27 2012 18:59 GMT
#2
omgaaaaah quoted instead of editting by accident
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SoulSever
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada779 Posts
May 27 2012 19:03 GMT
#3
I have faith JD!
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SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
May 27 2012 19:03 GMT
#4
STEPHANO #1!!!
MMA: The true King of Wings
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 19:04:55
May 27 2012 19:04 GMT
#5
Lizzy is Motive indeed, also dont know why he thought he was in a bad position in the ace match. The game got decided when Lizzy lost his third with his immortals+sentries and uptill that point there werent really anything to indicate he was behind.

Hoping T8 gets some more wins so they can get a sponsor soon as well :/
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 27 2012 19:07 GMT
#6
Ah I love jaedong interviews

Q You will be playing SC1 vs Airforce ACE
A Some may say [switching back and forth] is difficult but that's a commonality for all players, so I believe it is a level playing field. A professional must strive for the best results, no matter what the situation at hand may be.


What a boss ^_^. Thanks for posting the interivew!
When I think of something else, something will go here
PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
May 27 2012 19:07 GMT
#7
Thank you so much, been waiting for this interview.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
May 27 2012 19:17 GMT
#8
Elephant in the room

Jaedong hwating ~ thanks for the interivew
In the woods, there lurks..
Madera
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
May 27 2012 19:20 GMT
#9
Thank you so much, I've been waiting for the translation. It must be really hard playing under the pressure of knowing that so many people are expecting you to switch over and produce good results. Myself and many others have all the time in the world though. I hope he does well against ACE. <3
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
May 27 2012 19:23 GMT
#10
On May 28 2012 03:57 rotinegg wrote:

Q Were you expecting Lizzy in ace.
A Yes. However I didn't prepare for the ace match. I trusted my experience. I focused more on preparing for Crazy-hydra. I feel the situation leading up to my victory in ace was quite strange and I just somehow won [Anybody have any idea what he is referring to? Was the game strange or did something happen? Only watched the ace match and I don't understand SC2 lol]

Source: Daily E-sports


The game is a very textbook PvZ. P got to greedy with the fast third base without enough army to support/defend it and got rolled by 12 min 200 food Roaches timing attack.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2547 Posts
May 27 2012 19:23 GMT
#11
Thank you nice interview! I do have faith in you JD!
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 27 2012 19:28 GMT
#12
so handsome

also frigging Riji in Ace, Jaedong loves the Riji.
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oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5500 Posts
May 27 2012 19:30 GMT
#13
Jaedong has great decision making. He decides to win, and then he does.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
May 27 2012 19:33 GMT
#14
Jaedong improved a great deal since one week ago, he's still very rough around the edges, but you can definitely see he's pouring his best in.
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 19:34:54
May 27 2012 19:34 GMT
#15
Thanks a lot for this, but are only specific winners interviews being translated?
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 27 2012 19:39 GMT
#16
go jaedong

does anybody know what that logo on his t-shirt is about? it was on all the team8 jackets at the match too, but i only count 5 white stripes, shouldn't it be 8 stripes or something?

thanks for translation!
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2547 Posts
May 27 2012 19:44 GMT
#17
On May 28 2012 04:39 prplhz wrote:
go jaedong

does anybody know what that logo on his t-shirt is about? it was on all the team8 jackets at the match too, but i only count 5 white stripes, shouldn't it be 8 stripes or something?

thanks for translation!


Team 8 is only a temporary name anyway, they probably won't keep this when they find a sponsor.
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
May 27 2012 19:46 GMT
#18
He's still got the champion mindset even though the league is making it ridiculously hard on them, especially TBLS. Go Jaedong!
Maximusjesse
Profile Joined April 2011
26 Posts
May 27 2012 19:47 GMT
#19
On May 28 2012 04:39 prplhz wrote:
go jaedong

does anybody know what that logo on his t-shirt is about? it was on all the team8 jackets at the match too, but i only count 5 white stripes, shouldn't it be 8 stripes or something?

thanks for translation!


The logo is the logo of Undefeated, which is the clothing sponsor of both Team 8 and Woonjin Stars.
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
May 27 2012 19:48 GMT
#20
Thanks for the translation!
TBLS fighting!
Jaedong, I pull for you the most <3
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tiaz
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden231 Posts
May 27 2012 20:07 GMT
#21
I have faith in you JD too!
"When you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape." - Iloveoov
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
May 27 2012 20:23 GMT
#22
On May 28 2012 03:57 rotinegg wrote:

Q Were you expecting Lizzy in ace.
A Yes. However I didn't prepare for the ace match. I trusted my experience. I focused more on preparing for Crazy-hydra. I feel the situation leading up to my victory in ace was quite strange and I just somehow won [Anybody have any idea what he is referring to? Was the game strange or did something happen? Only watched the ace match and I don't understand SC2 lol]

Source: Daily E-sports


He made a bunch of roaches and kind of a-moved to victory. It wasn't an all-in or anything (Jaedong was taking a fourth and teching behind it), but Lizzy played a little greedy and had bad Forcefields, so he just sort of died earlier than you'd expect.
Noel Vermillion
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada218 Posts
May 27 2012 20:25 GMT
#23
Didn't care that KT lost, I cared for Flash & JD winning there games ; D next time it be different ahaha ; D maybe.....

Thanks for the interview. I think Flash would had been a better Ace but that's just my opinion.
FlaSh, Jaedong, Bisu, Free, TossGirl, Action, Stats Always BW FTW!
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 20:29:45
May 27 2012 20:28 GMT
#24
I dont like this system, but I have to agree with him, who excels in both games shall prevail, and with they getting better at this scale, it will be a big challange
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
May 27 2012 20:32 GMT
#25
no flash interview?
SgtCoDFish
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1520 Posts
May 27 2012 20:34 GMT
#26
Thanks very much for the translation dude, was wondering what this interview said

Have an e-highfive

*highfive*

:D
RageBot
Profile Joined November 2010
Israel1530 Posts
May 27 2012 20:56 GMT
#27
On May 28 2012 05:23 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 03:57 rotinegg wrote:

Q Were you expecting Lizzy in ace.
A Yes. However I didn't prepare for the ace match. I trusted my experience. I focused more on preparing for Crazy-hydra. I feel the situation leading up to my victory in ace was quite strange and I just somehow won [Anybody have any idea what he is referring to? Was the game strange or did something happen? Only watched the ace match and I don't understand SC2 lol]

Source: Daily E-sports


He made a bunch of roaches and kind of a-moved to victory. It wasn't an all-in or anything (Jaedong was taking a fourth and teching behind it), but Lizzy played a little greedy and had bad Forcefields, so he just sort of died earlier than you'd expect.


two-pronged attack =/= a-move
oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
May 27 2012 20:58 GMT
#28
On May 28 2012 05:23 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 03:57 rotinegg wrote:

Q Were you expecting Lizzy in ace.
A Yes. However I didn't prepare for the ace match. I trusted my experience. I focused more on preparing for Crazy-hydra. I feel the situation leading up to my victory in ace was quite strange and I just somehow won [Anybody have any idea what he is referring to? Was the game strange or did something happen? Only watched the ace match and I don't understand SC2 lol]

Source: Daily E-sports


He made a bunch of roaches and kind of a-moved to victory. It wasn't an all-in or anything (Jaedong was taking a fourth and teching behind it), but Lizzy played a little greedy and had bad Forcefields, so he just sort of died earlier than you'd expect.

Yeah, basically Lizzy played really poorly and Jaedong didn't expect to just win with that attack. He wasn't really teching or expanding as fast as he should have, but his focus on constant aggression payed off.
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Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 17:16:28
May 27 2012 21:18 GMT
#29
Jaedong is going to crush, I can't wait.

[Losing in SC2] feels different from losing in BW


This makes me sad
I imagine that he is feeling there is less he can do to determine the outcome of a game.

Edit: because he is inexperienced with the game
KTY
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5500 Posts
May 27 2012 21:25 GMT
#30
On May 28 2012 05:32 Garmer wrote:
no flash interview?

KT lost the match.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 21:30:15
May 27 2012 21:29 GMT
#31
On May 28 2012 05:23 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 03:57 rotinegg wrote:

Q Were you expecting Lizzy in ace.
A Yes. However I didn't prepare for the ace match. I trusted my experience. I focused more on preparing for Crazy-hydra. I feel the situation leading up to my victory in ace was quite strange and I just somehow won [Anybody have any idea what he is referring to? Was the game strange or did something happen? Only watched the ace match and I don't understand SC2 lol]

Source: Daily E-sports


He made a bunch of roaches and kind of a-moved to victory. It wasn't an all-in or anything (Jaedong was taking a fourth and teching behind it), but Lizzy played a little greedy and had bad Forcefields, so he just sort of died earlier than you'd expect.

Look, I don't know if you have a bias against zerg or something. But the dong did not a move. He was attacking in 2 pronged attacks and poking while controling 3 control groups. Did you even watch the video? He actually set his control keys to 1 roach group, 1 roach group, 1 ling group. And he was moving them all in different directions time to bait out forcefields before going for a surround. You can say any zergs a move for all I care, but the dong definitely showed he didn't a move.
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 21:40:23
May 27 2012 21:40 GMT
#32
A Korean BW-pro referencing a foreigner in an official interview when talking about his strategy choice and build. Mind=blown.
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
May 27 2012 21:43 GMT
#33
On May 28 2012 06:40 CruelZeratul wrote:
A Korean BW-pro referencing a foreigner in an official interview when talking about his strategy choice and build. Mind=blown.

lol, you should have seen what happened when Jaedong said he likes stephano in his interview last week. Liquid went crazy and were even talking about making a fanfic of him and stephano
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
May 27 2012 21:47 GMT
#34
On May 28 2012 06:43 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 06:40 CruelZeratul wrote:
A Korean BW-pro referencing a foreigner in an official interview when talking about his strategy choice and build. Mind=blown.

lol, you should have seen what happened when Jaedong said he likes stephano in his interview last week. Liquid went crazy and were even talking about making a fanfic of him and stephano


I know, I read that myself but in that situation he was doing an interview with a foreign SC2 news/community site and not with the korean media. I think this is pretty cool.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
May 27 2012 21:51 GMT
#35
On May 28 2012 06:40 CruelZeratul wrote:
A Korean BW-pro referencing a foreigner in an official interview when talking about his strategy choice and build. Mind=blown.

It's happened before.

Random reference being http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=84553

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Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1285 Posts
May 27 2012 23:19 GMT
#36
Baller Jaedong..... as always
sup
constantine
Profile Joined June 2009
Bulgaria49 Posts
May 27 2012 23:29 GMT
#37
On May 28 2012 05:25 Noel Vermillion wrote:
Didn't care that KT lost, I cared for Flash & JD winning there games ; D next time it be different ahaha ; D maybe.....

Thanks for the interview. I think Flash would had been a better Ace but that's just my opinion.


Seeing those two up against each other would have been way more epic, even if its on the SCII arena.
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Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
May 27 2012 23:41 GMT
#38
Thank you so much for the translation <3
huehuehuehue
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Estonia455 Posts
May 27 2012 23:41 GMT
#39
On May 28 2012 06:18 Xxio wrote:
Jaedong is going to crush, I can't wait.

Show nested quote +
[Losing in SC2] feels different from losing in BW


This makes me sad
I imagine that he is feeling there is less he can do to determine the outcome of a game.

I think it is because he is still in the 'learning' fase of SC2.
FlukyS
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland485 Posts
May 28 2012 00:11 GMT
#40
I think I understand what he meant by that bit. In the ace match vs Lizzy he thought he was going to lose but managed to win and he didn't really understand why. I think he controlled the situation well thats how he won but from his perspective it was a lot closer than it looked to an observer. Plus he lost to that army composition last time he played against protoss so he wouldn't be all that comfortable after that.
geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 00:16:51
May 28 2012 00:14 GMT
#41
On May 28 2012 08:41 huehuehuehue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 06:18 Xxio wrote:
Jaedong is going to crush, I can't wait.

[Losing in SC2] feels different from losing in BW


This makes me sad
I imagine that he is feeling there is less he can do to determine the outcome of a game.

I think it is because he is still in the 'learning' fase of SC2.

Yeah that's how I read it. He understands BW so thoroughly, and can usually trace his losses back to control mistakes, mind game losses, and the like. But with SC2, he knows even during the game that he isn't really comfortable with it at all, build timings, resource management, control issues, and potential opponent strategies are not all rushing through his head as comfortably as they are in BW.

Basically, I imagine when he loses in BW, he thinks "I needed to understand my opponent better." But when he loses in SC2, it's probably closer to "I needed to understand this game better."

And I'm actually kind of excited about that. It's probably way more frustrating when you are the absolute master of a game to lose to an opponent who is just outthinking or outplaying you. But losing while still being able to see extremely clearly areas in which you can improve has to be much easier to handle.
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
May 28 2012 00:23 GMT
#42
On May 28 2012 09:14 geno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:41 huehuehuehue wrote:
On May 28 2012 06:18 Xxio wrote:
Jaedong is going to crush, I can't wait.

[Losing in SC2] feels different from losing in BW


This makes me sad
I imagine that he is feeling there is less he can do to determine the outcome of a game.

I think it is because he is still in the 'learning' fase of SC2.

Yeah that's how I read it. He understands BW so thoroughly, and can usually trace his losses back to control mistakes, mind game losses, and the like. But with SC2, he knows even during the game that he isn't really comfortable with it at all, build timings, resource management, control issues, and potential opponent strategies are not all rushing through his head as comfortably as they are in BW.

Basically, I imagine when he loses in BW, he thinks "I needed to understand my opponent better." But when he loses in SC2, it's probably closer to "I needed to understand this game better."

And I'm actually kind of excited about that. It's probably way more frustrating when you are the absolute master of a game to lose to an opponent who is just outthinking or outplaying you. But losing while still being able to see extremely clearly areas in which you can improve has to be much easier to handle.

Oh man, I am waiting for the day Jaedong whips out his dong face and starts raping people again...
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 00:24:30
May 28 2012 00:23 GMT
#43
Q Did you copy (Z)Stephano's play in the ace match.
A Yes, I followed his play style. Honestly, I don't have the confidence that I will win every game in SC2 just yet. I don't have a solid grasp on the underlying concepts. I don't think I am at a level where you can compare my play to that of other zerg players such as Stephano.

Amazing that he picked a foreign SC2 player, not a Korean SC2 player. I guess he must really like Stephano's style. Times are changing. Now if only Stephano -- being elevated in such a way by a BW legend -- really cared about it, haha. Anyways, thanks for translating the interview!
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Amornthep
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore2605 Posts
May 28 2012 00:54 GMT
#44
Thank you very much for the interview. <3 Jaedong.
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
May 28 2012 00:58 GMT
#45
Thanks for the interview! So happy that JD could get his first sc2 win!
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
May 28 2012 01:07 GMT
#46
stephano must be loving life right now, he should go on a man date with jaedong
jaedong imba
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
May 28 2012 01:19 GMT
#47
A professional must strive for the best results, no matter what the situation at hand may be.

Jaedong4ever. I will wait as long as I have to for your domination in SC2.
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Dakure
Profile Joined February 2011
United States513 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 01:26:24
May 28 2012 01:23 GMT
#48
On May 28 2012 04:39 prplhz wrote:
go jaedong

does anybody know what that logo on his t-shirt is about? it was on all the team8 jackets at the match too, but i only count 5 white stripes, shouldn't it be 8 stripes or something?

thanks for translation!

I might be stretching it a bit, but if you consider the red space between the white lines as red lines, then there are 5 white lines and 3 red lines, totaling 8.

Also, note that between n white lines there are n - 1 red lines. So, if you draw the lines in a row (ex: | | | | |), then you will always obtain an odd number of combined red and white lines.
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
May 28 2012 01:28 GMT
#49
i shall wait even until the end of time if necessary
byah!
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
May 28 2012 01:40 GMT
#50
Thanks for translating
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
zappa372
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Chile365 Posts
May 28 2012 01:44 GMT
#51
JD4LYFE
EE HAN TIMING!
Antimatterz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1010 Posts
May 28 2012 01:46 GMT
#52
That ace match was pretty damn good, I thought Jaedong played quite well even compared to some Code S zergs.
"HotBid [11:45 AM]: i dunno i kinda like the big muta shooting smaller mutas out"
Ripeace
Profile Joined January 2012
34 Posts
May 28 2012 02:01 GMT
#53
I guess he felt strange because he isn't confident against protoss and still don't understand the game (his ZvZ was also a little odd, he doesnt seem to understand the concept of attacking/droning in ZvZ). He lost his first Starcraft 2 against a protoss because he did a weird move (and suicide half of his army), showing that he is still trying to figure out this match up.
Ripeace
Profile Joined January 2012
34 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 02:11:37
May 28 2012 02:09 GMT
#54
On May 28 2012 06:18 Xxio wrote:
Jaedong is going to crush, I can't wait.

Show nested quote +
[Losing in SC2] feels different from losing in BW


This makes me sad
I imagine that he is feeling there is less he can do to determine the outcome of a game.


And you are modo?...

Obviously it just means that he still doesn't have the skill in Starcraft 2 to understand his mistakes.
If there was less to do to determine the outcome of a game in Starcraft 2, it wouldn't be the same players who win every tournaments (and he wouldn't say: I can be the best).
Starcraft 2 is still not as balance as Brood War (we will see with HotS) but the skill cap is definitely big enough for that the best player win. And I don't even know why I have to say that, even on a casual game, the best player win most of the time if it's not totally random.


On May 28 2012 10:46 Antimatterz wrote:
That ace match was pretty damn good, I thought Jaedong played quite well even compared to some Code S zergs.


He played well but a high master on EU server can do that.
Don't under estimate code s, a or even b players, they are most of the time GM on Korean server and I don't think JD is GM at the moment. He just executed perfectly a build and won, not enough to be compared to a sc2 progamer.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
May 28 2012 02:22 GMT
#55
Inspiring interview, jaedong's professionalism always surprises me. I have faith
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
May 28 2012 02:28 GMT
#56
From that facial expression and word of determination, I am feeling that we are in for yet another reign of tyranny. Keep being mad, JD, keep being mad.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
ThreeActPlay
Profile Joined April 2011
United States249 Posts
May 28 2012 02:33 GMT
#57
JAEDONG FIGHTING <3
twitter.com/haethos
novamarine
Profile Joined February 2011
Malaysia215 Posts
May 28 2012 02:35 GMT
#58
Thanks for translation, he seems to happy after that win
People.....People never change
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
May 28 2012 03:00 GMT
#59
Jaedong always so professional and optimistic. We'll be waiting, Tyrant.
Teriyaki-Boy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States26 Posts
May 28 2012 03:12 GMT
#60
The True Dong.....
What is love? baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me no more......
ZisforZerg
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States224 Posts
May 28 2012 03:18 GMT
#61
we shall wait master.
"I'm too drunk, to taste that chicken."
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
May 28 2012 03:24 GMT
#62
So happy for him, he looked mechanically really solid, and out-played Motive with two fronts while still macroing well and teching and expanding. Oh, and looking nonchalant and totally cool.

We will wait even though we can't, JD.
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
Krossfire
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia1071 Posts
May 28 2012 03:24 GMT
#63
always have faith in the Dong
For the Swarm * DRG *
LKCCOMANDER
Profile Joined November 2010
Costa Rica50 Posts
May 28 2012 03:27 GMT
#64
I have faith in you JD!
"The AT Field is the light of my soul"~Kaworu
awwnuts07
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States621 Posts
May 28 2012 03:36 GMT
#65
WOOT! JD slowly but surely making his way back to Tyrant status!

Thanks for the translation!
I'm a noob
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
May 28 2012 03:55 GMT
#66
Thanks Rotinegg for the translation!
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
rockon1215
Profile Joined May 2009
United States612 Posts
May 28 2012 04:30 GMT
#67
GO JAEDONG GO!

JD is still the only player that gets my adrenaline pumping during games. JD winning his 1st SC2 game in an ace match against KT of all teams made me so happy. JD for life
Flash v Jaedong The finals that is ALWAYS meant to be
ryanymoon
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada38 Posts
May 28 2012 04:39 GMT
#68
Gogo Jaedong!!! I'll be cheering for team 8 this year over SKT. I really hope T8 gets sponsored this year.
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
May 28 2012 04:59 GMT
#69
Jaedong is so inspirational! I love him and hope he succeeds in SC2 <3
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
May 28 2012 05:06 GMT
#70
So happy to see JD winning again.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 05:36:13
May 28 2012 05:35 GMT
#71
Thank you for the translation, hopefully T8 have more winner's interviews this round/season then they did last round/season.
Brood War forever!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44137 Posts
May 28 2012 05:36 GMT
#72
Thanks for the translation/ interview

Jaedong winning always makes me happy ^^ Hopefully he stays strong in BW and keeps improving in SC2 ♥
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
SilentVico
Profile Joined August 2011
United States128 Posts
May 28 2012 05:45 GMT
#73
jaedong winning ace!
"words will hurt forever"
O_ovPvo_O-SNAKE
Profile Joined April 2012
United States11 Posts
May 28 2012 05:52 GMT
#74
JeaDong!!!!
FIGHTING!
"Let the Wookie win"
S2Glow
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Singapore1042 Posts
May 28 2012 11:02 GMT
#75
shiny nose hehe . prob too stress
<3 Katelyn , C Zerg. Dying wish is to watch proleague live and see my girlfriend which gonna be soon! <33
Exia0276
Profile Joined January 2012
Hong Kong62 Posts
May 28 2012 12:00 GMT
#76
When I saw him play the ace match, doing the two pronged attack, I kept thinking to myself: Don't get trapped by forcefields. Don't get in a position where he will trap you with forcefields. He had better positioning for engagements this game. I think he learnt from his lesson on forcefields the previous week.

And when I saw the lings flooding in, I felt the wrath coming for Lizzy.
Mentor
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 14:23:19
May 28 2012 14:22 GMT
#77
Stephano has unbelievable swag and is surely one the best Zergs in the world right now, but playstyle wise I wish JD would look into more TSl Symbol and FXO Leenock games.
I wanna see the Dong's BW mechanics be used for burrowed Banelings, alot of Infestors, two or three pronged Muta harass, drops, nydus shenanigans and stuff like that. Because if there's one Zerg who can truely outmultitask anyone on this planet, it's Jaedong.
"Fame is like salty water, no last sip after the first, and before you drown you'll be dying of thirst." -Prezident-
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
May 28 2012 14:52 GMT
#78
ANY INSTRUCTION TO BUY THAT RED UNDFTD SHIRT IN KOREA???
so want it :p
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
May 28 2012 14:58 GMT
#79
Oh JD, I want you soo bad.
Check out some great music made by TLers - http://bit.ly/QXYhdb , by intrigue. http://bit.ly/RTjpOR , by ohsea.toc.
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
May 28 2012 16:18 GMT
#80
On May 28 2012 23:52 Arceus wrote:
ANY INSTRUCTION TO BUY THAT RED UNDFTD SHIRT IN KOREA???
so want it :p

http://www.undefeated.com/webstore/clothing/t-shirts.html
It's actually an american website
Translator
Proposal
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1310 Posts
May 28 2012 16:19 GMT
#81
Wait, what? I am so confused.

I have been away from the SC scene for so long. Jaedong is playing SC2?
ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 16:23:50
May 28 2012 16:22 GMT
#82
On May 28 2012 09:23 Proseat wrote:
Show nested quote +
Q Did you copy (Z)Stephano's play in the ace match.
A Yes, I followed his play style. Honestly, I don't have the confidence that I will win every game in SC2 just yet. I don't have a solid grasp on the underlying concepts. I don't think I am at a level where you can compare my play to that of other zerg players such as Stephano.

Amazing that he picked a foreign SC2 player, not a Korean SC2 player. I guess he must really like Stephano's style. Times are changing. Now if only Stephano -- being elevated in such a way by a BW legend -- really cared about it, haha. Anyways, thanks for translating the interview!


Do you seriously think he's going to pick Nestea (for being Zergbong), DongRaeGu (someone who has a 3-33 winrate in the CJ B team ranking leagues), IdrA (CJ B teamer), or Ret (someone who got RO8 Courage as his best result)?
Legends never die... they end up working in McDonalds.
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
May 28 2012 17:28 GMT
#83
Even though I'm always sad when KT loses, I couldn't help but feel a bit elated with Jaedong's win. Hopefully T8 can get some more wins and pick up a sponsor or two !
In Inca we trust
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5500 Posts
May 28 2012 18:40 GMT
#84
On May 29 2012 01:22 ppshchik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 09:23 Proseat wrote:
Q Did you copy (Z)Stephano's play in the ace match.
A Yes, I followed his play style. Honestly, I don't have the confidence that I will win every game in SC2 just yet. I don't have a solid grasp on the underlying concepts. I don't think I am at a level where you can compare my play to that of other zerg players such as Stephano.

Amazing that he picked a foreign SC2 player, not a Korean SC2 player. I guess he must really like Stephano's style. Times are changing. Now if only Stephano -- being elevated in such a way by a BW legend -- really cared about it, haha. Anyways, thanks for translating the interview!


Do you seriously think he's going to pick Nestea (for being Zergbong), DongRaeGu (someone who has a 3-33 winrate in the CJ B team ranking leagues), IdrA (CJ B teamer), or Ret (someone who got RO8 Courage as his best result)?

No comprendo. Stephano's Korean BW record is worse than every player you listed. JD just happens to like his plays.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Sethronu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom450 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 21:00:47
May 28 2012 21:00 GMT
#85
Stephano's builds are much more 'obvious' and easy to follow as they don't rely as much on reading and countering your opponent as for example Nestea or DRG do; on top of that, there are so many more VODs of his games available, it's hardly surprising that JD would cite him as a player he is watching the most.

I can't believe people are somehow using that as 'omg foreigners!!!11' or bringing up past BW results??? into this...

oh and, JD<3
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 28 2012 21:03 GMT
#86
On May 29 2012 01:22 ppshchik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 09:23 Proseat wrote:
Q Did you copy (Z)Stephano's play in the ace match.
A Yes, I followed his play style. Honestly, I don't have the confidence that I will win every game in SC2 just yet. I don't have a solid grasp on the underlying concepts. I don't think I am at a level where you can compare my play to that of other zerg players such as Stephano.

Amazing that he picked a foreign SC2 player, not a Korean SC2 player. I guess he must really like Stephano's style. Times are changing. Now if only Stephano -- being elevated in such a way by a BW legend -- really cared about it, haha. Anyways, thanks for translating the interview!


Do you seriously think he's going to pick Nestea (for being Zergbong), DongRaeGu (someone who has a 3-33 winrate in the CJ B team ranking leagues), IdrA (CJ B teamer), or Ret (someone who got RO8 Courage as his best result)?


What about Stephano? His record is worse then all of them as he didn't play bw lol. So your point makes absolutely no since whatsoever.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 21:38:17
May 28 2012 21:38 GMT
#87
<3 Jaedong, your fans will sure wait for you
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2547 Posts
May 28 2012 22:44 GMT
#88
On May 29 2012 06:03 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 01:22 ppshchik wrote:
On May 28 2012 09:23 Proseat wrote:
Q Did you copy (Z)Stephano's play in the ace match.
A Yes, I followed his play style. Honestly, I don't have the confidence that I will win every game in SC2 just yet. I don't have a solid grasp on the underlying concepts. I don't think I am at a level where you can compare my play to that of other zerg players such as Stephano.

Amazing that he picked a foreign SC2 player, not a Korean SC2 player. I guess he must really like Stephano's style. Times are changing. Now if only Stephano -- being elevated in such a way by a BW legend -- really cared about it, haha. Anyways, thanks for translating the interview!


Do you seriously think he's going to pick Nestea (for being Zergbong), DongRaeGu (someone who has a 3-33 winrate in the CJ B team ranking leagues), IdrA (CJ B teamer), or Ret (someone who got RO8 Courage as his best result)?


What about Stephano? His record is worse then all of them as he didn't play bw lol. So your point makes absolutely no since whatsoever.


What was Stephano's background before Sc2 ?
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
bowen888
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada31 Posts
May 28 2012 22:57 GMT
#89
WOOHOO team8!!!
Jaedong and Team 8!! GOGO!!
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
May 28 2012 23:04 GMT
#90
<3 dong!
Jaedong.
Exia0276
Profile Joined January 2012
Hong Kong62 Posts
May 29 2012 02:16 GMT
#91
What was Stephano's background before Sc2 ?


Warcraft 3



On picking Stephano: There's a theory that foreigners invent new stategies while the koreans perfect them :p
zawk9
Profile Joined March 2011
United States427 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 02:44:05
May 29 2012 02:43 GMT
#92
Really fun to watch Jaedong dismantle Lizzy like that (particularly the two pronged kiting with roach/ling). Hard not to be happy for Team 8 as well- I'm a sucker for the underdogs.
there's a bug in the new patch where the other player keeps killing all my dudes.. please nerf this
hyperdemented
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria372 Posts
May 29 2012 05:50 GMT
#93
On May 29 2012 11:16 Exia0276 wrote:
Show nested quote +
What was Stephano's background before Sc2 ?


Warcraft 3



On picking Stephano: There's a theory that foreigners invent new stategies while the koreans perfect them :p


i dont think there can be much done to perfect it though, its a very solid build and strong on its own, but what makes stephanos zvp so good is not the build itself, its the fact that he somehow figured out protoss, he basically knows every protoss timing down to the second
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
May 29 2012 10:39 GMT
#94
On May 29 2012 06:00 Sethronu wrote:
Stephano's builds are much more 'obvious' and easy to follow as they don't rely as much on reading and countering your opponent as for example Nestea or DRG do; on top of that, there are so many more VODs of his games available, it's hardly surprising that JD would cite him as a player he is watching the most.

I can't believe people are somehow using that as 'omg foreigners!!!11' or bringing up past BW results??? into this...

oh and, JD<3

Jaedong didn't just cite him as a player he is watching the most, he actually said he likes stephano's style and admires it. He even said it is beautiful that he is a foreigner and is so good. -_-
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
May 29 2012 22:30 GMT
#95
On May 29 2012 19:39 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 06:00 Sethronu wrote:
Stephano's builds are much more 'obvious' and easy to follow as they don't rely as much on reading and countering your opponent as for example Nestea or DRG do; on top of that, there are so many more VODs of his games available, it's hardly surprising that JD would cite him as a player he is watching the most.

I can't believe people are somehow using that as 'omg foreigners!!!11' or bringing up past BW results??? into this...

oh and, JD<3

Jaedong didn't just cite him as a player he is watching the most, he actually said he likes stephano's style and admires it. He even said it is beautiful that he is a foreigner and is so good. -_-


No where did jaedong say stephano is "so good". He simply thinks stephanos style is the style he invisions himself using.
The Notorious Winkles
Alaiz
Profile Joined November 2011
France118 Posts
May 29 2012 22:32 GMT
#96
I have faith in you Jaedong !
mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
June 02 2012 09:23 GMT
#97
Jaedong played pretty well against Motive, looked like a real game that could've been played on a pro level. Not like most of the games in Proleague, which are all played like GSL games played out over a year ago. His game against Motive actually looked almost exactly like the Stephano vs MC games at MLG Spring Arena 2.

Nice interview, and nice translation! I have faith in Jaedong!
@Munck
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
June 02 2012 09:48 GMT
#98
On June 02 2012 18:23 mnck wrote:
Jaedong played pretty well against Motive, looked like a real game that could've been played on a pro level.


Lets not get ahead of ourselves
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