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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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BookTwo
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Celestia
Mexico376 Posts
On May 11 2012 07:46 BookTwo wrote: Won't this break sc2? When the bw pros have had enough time to practice, there will be NO CHANCE for foreigners to even get a chance in GSL. If MLG's are dominated by only koreans, will the international community lose interest? Yes, this has been planned by Kespa to destroy SC2. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On May 11 2012 07:46 BookTwo wrote: Won't this break sc2? When the bw pros have had enough time to practice, there will be NO CHANCE for foreigners to even get a chance in GSL. If MLG's are dominated by only koreans, will the international community lose interest? Well just imagine the work ethnics and the hand eye co-ordination of MVP, MC, and Nestea. Well now you got 100 more of them. The ONLY thing that got me excited about this switch is that I can fucking cheer for Huk in the face of adversity for 'national pride' (the true North and Free shiz) but now I am not even so sure about that anymore. I guess I can go like "yeah my favourite guys are pwning scrubs from left and right. That just won't be satisfying enough... | ||
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Maldais
Canada3 Posts
On May 11 2012 07:26 Xiphos wrote: Beside the MLG and DreamHack tournaments by foreigners, SC2 really have no other stage tournament. Most of the 'esport exposure' is through people live streaming. I hope Kespa understands that. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments There's a lot more than just MLG and Dreamhack, even before adding in the bw pro switch. It's been common to have a major event every weekend, lack of content is not a problem. There's a lot of hate on SC2 in this thread, some of the replies seem to show that people saw some sc2 in beta, didn't like it, and are still judging the game based on that. It's not deathball vs deathball anymore, few builds involve 1 basing, there's a good mix of macro games and punishing greed. Yes Colossus are boring, but most good 'toss use storm and archon these days anyway. And Terran often play mech. Saying things like "T always play bio and it's boring" shows that the commenter has outdated game knowledge. Watch some GSL Code S, or the finals day of any MLG such as DRG vs MKP, the metagame is getting really good and will only improve with the added versatility HotS units will add. Yes the game isn't as mature as bw yet, but why not help it get there instead of bashing it? | ||
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Theovide
Sweden914 Posts
 )). Hopefully we'll see a lot of creativeness due to great minds and players trying out new things in the new game, of course that hope might be unforfilled if people play it safe and pick strats from sc2 players, but we'll simply have to see! | ||
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Ollie
United States144 Posts
On May 11 2012 08:09 Maldais wrote: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments There's a lot more than just MLG and Dreamhack, even before adding in the bw pro switch. It's been common to have a major event every weekend, lack of content is not a problem. There's a lot of hate on SC2 in this thread, some of the replies seem to show that people saw some sc2 in beta, didn't like it, and are still judging the game based on that. It's not deathball vs deathball anymore, few builds involve 1 basing, there's a good mix of macro games and punishing greed. Yes Colossus are boring, but most good 'toss use storm and archon these days anyway. And Terran often play mech. Saying things like "T always play bio and it's boring" shows that the commenter has outdated game knowledge. Watch some GSL Code S, or the finals day of any MLG such as DRG vs MKP, the metagame is getting really good and will only improve with the added versatility HotS units will add. Yes the game isn't as mature as bw yet, but why not help it get there instead of bashing it? This is a great comment ^^ | ||
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GeLaar
2421 Posts
If this somehow doesn't work out, I'll give up on watching Proleague. Forcing my favourite players to switch to SC2 does not force me to watch SC2. | ||
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Scrandom
Canada2819 Posts
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dibban
Sweden1279 Posts
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TheButtonmen
Canada1405 Posts
On May 11 2012 07:26 Xiphos wrote: Beside the MLG and DreamHack tournaments by foreigners, SC2 really have no other stage tournament. Most of the 'esport exposure' is through people live streaming. I hope Kespa understands that. I get that you're not a SC2 fan and all but seriously don't make uneducated statements just to hate on a game you don't like. There are streamed/casted LANs pretty much every weekend and major live tournaments at least twice a month. SC2 doesn't suffer from a lack of live events. | ||
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b0lt
United States790 Posts
On May 11 2012 08:09 Maldais wrote: There's a lot of hate on SC2 in this thread, some of the replies seem to show that people saw some sc2 in beta, didn't like it, and are still judging the game based on that. It's not deathball vs deathball anymore Watch some GSL Code S You mean like the MVP vs parting code S semifinal set 3? edit: set 3, not 4 | ||
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TheButtonmen
Canada1405 Posts
On May 11 2012 09:21 b0lt wrote: You mean like the MVP vs parting code S semifinal set 4? Did you just say MVP vs Parting was deathball vs deathball? Did you actually watch it? | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On May 11 2012 07:26 Xiphos wrote: Beside the MLG and DreamHack tournaments by foreigners, SC2 really have no other stage tournament. Most of the 'esport exposure' is through people live streaming. I hope Kespa understands that. Individual Leagues GSL (I presume you're just not counting this for some reason?) MLG Dreamhack NASL IPL Iron Squid Assembly Homestory Cup IEM Team league GSTL NASTL IPTL/IGN TAC KSL If anything, SC2 has too many tournaments, more than the scene can support. On May 11 2012 09:22 TheButtonmen wrote: Did you just say MVP vs Parting was deathball vs deathball? Did you actually watch it? In fairness, cheese is hardly better. | ||
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TheButtonmen
Canada1405 Posts
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
On May 11 2012 01:42 Darneck wrote: Because of being fans of the players and not solely the game SC2 is basically a different game. It's like saying all the BW pros switch to DoTA/LoL. Are you going to watch them then just because you're a fan of them? Same logic. Some people like the games, then the players. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On May 11 2012 09:41 Apex wrote: SC2 is basically a different game. It's like saying all the BW pros switch to DoTA/LoL. Are you going to watch them then just because you're a fan of them? Same logic. Some people like the games, then the players. Of course, some people like the game before the players, but then again, some other people like the players/teams, then the games. KeSPA is basically making a huge gamble in assuming that enough people are fans of the players and teams first to make this entire endeavor sustainable in the long run. It is entirely possible that they might be right, but it is also likely that they could also be wrong. | ||
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Maldais
Canada3 Posts
On May 11 2012 09:21 b0lt wrote: You mean like the MVP vs parting code S semifinal set 4? Yes, because BW never has cheesy sets. Parting has been playing very greedy, which has allowed P to have very strong late games. MVP punished him for that, it's the metagame evolving, the very thing that has always made starcraft an amazing dynamic game. This comment is perfectly representative of what I see a lot of, trying to judge the entire game/community by a very small sample size. If a SC2 fan who had never watched BW before decided to give it a chance, saw two mediocre sets, and judged BW to be a terrible game based on that, what would you say? That is what you're doing to SC2. | ||
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BrosephBrostar
United States445 Posts
On May 11 2012 09:52 Maldais wrote: Yes, because BW never has cheesy sets. Parting has been playing very greedy, which has allowed P to have very strong late games. MVP punished him for that, it's the metagame evolving, the very thing that has always made starcraft an amazing dynamic game. This comment is perfectly representative of what I see a lot of, trying to judge the entire game/community by a very small sample size. If a SC2 fan who had never watched BW before decided to give it a chance, saw two mediocre sets, and judged BW to be a terrible game based on that, what would you say? That is what you're doing to SC2. I watched GSL every night from the opening match up to the Genius vs Dongraegu finals. My enjoyment of the game was going down over time, not increasing. I didn't really care that people were getting better at the game because it still wasn't exciting and I honestly don't ever see it becoming excitng. | ||
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Maldais
Canada3 Posts
On May 11 2012 10:00 BrosephBrostar wrote: I watched GSL every night from the opening match up to the Genius vs Dongraegu finals. My enjoyment of the game was going down over time, not increasing. I didn't really care that people were getting better at the game because it still wasn't exciting and I honestly don't ever see it becoming excitng. I don't agree, but that's reasonable. | ||
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