Media Day: SK Planet Proleague Season 2 - Page 38

On May 11 2012 11:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:


watch korean stream, feel good.

On May 11 2012 09:52 Maldais wrote:


Yes, because BW never has cheesy sets.

Parting has been playing very greedy, which has allowed P to have very strong late games. MVP punished him for that, it's the metagame evolving, the very thing that has always made starcraft an amazing dynamic game.

This comment is perfectly representative of what I see a lot of, trying to judge the entire game/community by a very small sample size. If a SC2 fan who had never watched BW before decided to give it a chance, saw two mediocre sets, and judged BW to be a terrible game based on that, what would you say? That is what you're doing to SC2.

On May 11 2012 10:30 Maldais wrote:


I don't agree, but that's reasonable.

On May 11 2012 11:42 densha wrote:


This is kind of funny because that sort of happened to me. Although I watch BW when it's on (and I subscribe to certain Youtube channels catering to BW), I have to say my experience has culminated in the thought that "hmm, this is a lot like SC2!".

Some of the first full matches I saw were of players that I never heard of (i.e. they weren't Flash, Jaedong, Stork, Bisu, etc). One set I distinctly remember one player walking into siege tank fire needlessly and that immediately broke the aura that I had envisioned around BW. What I really do appreciate is the deep history and meta-game development that BW has. When looking at it that way, BW is so wonderful, but each individual game doesn't seem to have any more chance of being one of those "godly" type games than an SC2 game does.

Both games have short cheesy games, both games have timing attacks (and players that build their careers off of them), both have macro games, both have those one-in-a-million EPIC games. I can certainly understand how 'being there' through the history and development of BW must play a huge role in what so many are feeling now, but I really think the similarities of the games far outweigh their differences, at least from a spectator's point of view.

On May 11 2012 11:42 densha wrote:


This is kind of funny because that sort of happened to me. Although I watch BW when it's on (and I subscribe to certain Youtube channels catering to BW), I have to say my experience has culminated in the thought that "hmm, this is a lot like SC2!".

Some of the first full matches I saw were of players that I never heard of (i.e. they weren't Flash, Jaedong, Stork, Bisu, etc). One set I distinctly remember one player walking into siege tank fire needlessly and that immediately broke the aura that I had envisioned around BW. What I really do appreciate is the deep history and meta-game development that BW has. When looking at it that way, BW is so wonderful, but each individual game doesn't seem to have any more chance of being one of those "godly" type games than an SC2 game does.

Both games have short cheesy games, both games have timing attacks (and players that build their careers off of them), both have macro games, both have those one-in-a-million EPIC games. I can certainly understand how 'being there' through the history and development of BW must play a huge role in what so many are feeling now, but I really think the similarities of the games far outweigh their differences, at least from a spectator's point of view.

On May 11 2012 08:51 GeLaar wrote:
Forcing my favourite players to switch to SC2 does not force me to watch SC2.

On May 11 2012 11:57 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Serious question: and someone MUST have posted this (have only read the first few pages thus far):

Where do LR threads go? Do they stay in the BW section becaue BW is still included in the format? I sure hope so. But maybe the TL mods will create a new forum: KESPA league, or something.

On May 11 2012 11:58 urashimakt wrote:

I'm not saying that BW professionals have been dying to jump onboard the SC2 train, but there's a problem with attempting to discern their personal opinion. A BW pro is either unsuccessful enough with the game that they barely make a living serving as a practice partner to more prominent players or so successful that they actually get paid something and are bound by their contracts.

The ones who are still in it have their public communications and interviews scripted for them by KeSPA. Have you noticed none of the players have said anything negative about the SC2 switch? There's got to be at least one soul unhappy with it. Not all of them mayhaps but at least one, right?

I find it hard to believe a claim such as "my favorite players are being forced" when you can't know that. They'd have to be allowed to speak for themselves for us to know that. Maybe some of them were looking to try something new or looking for an excuse to retire and pursue a career. Or maybe we can just look into Flash's puppy brown eyes and see the anguish. Feel it.

On May 11 2012 12:01 Harem wrote:

Soo called it a "rubbish game" on his Facebook.

On May 11 2012 11:48 sCCrooked wrote:


The reason you see mistakes like that happening in the lower level pros (we call them B-teamers) is because BW is exponentially more difficult to multi-task and manage your armies while marcoing and balancing your economy. A mistake like that being made in sc2 should only happen in the regular-level mineral-league players. In BW, everybody looks incredibly sloppy and bad until A-level progamer.

BW cheese at the pro level is almost non-existent. You can count an entire year's "cheese" games from the large public tournaments on 1 hand, sc2 its actually a decent %. The "one-in-a-million-EPIC" games actually happen quite often in BW. In fact you can expect about half the sets played in any given team vs team match or even BoX sets in the individual leagues to be "one-in-a-million-EPIC". sc2 it might be actually one-in-a-million while in BW it will be more like two-in-five-EPIC. If you had been watching vast amounts of BW you would know this from keeping up with the LR threads constantly since we often voted on how we thought the game was in terms of watchability so if you missed it, you could skip the crappy sets and just watch the good ones.

On May 11 2012 12:01 Harem wrote:

Soo called it a "rubbish game" on his Facebook.

On May 11 2012 12:01 Harem wrote:

Soo called it a "rubbish game" on his Facebook.

On May 11 2012 12:09 icystorage wrote:

idk o.o he's still playing in the OSL (not sure if its the correct soo)

On May 11 2012 12:22 BLinD-RawR wrote:

half'n half

BW side in BW

SC2 side in SC2