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On May 15 2012 03:21 PurePwnageofTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2012 00:43 KobraKay wrote:On May 14 2012 22:50 PurePwnageofTerran wrote:
This format doesn't even make sense, BO3 BW and BO3 sc2 with ace match sc2? Also I dont understand what they mean when a team wins 2-0 in a bo3 then the last players are recorded as having played???? what does that even mean? This is way too confusing lol. The recorded withouth playing thing is important because players need to play both games. Let me try to ilustrate with an example: CJ - KT in BW Effort - Stats Hydra - Mind Leta - Hoejja then in SCtoo (lol if this becomes a trend) Horang2 - Flash Snow - Action Rush - CH In the second round, lets say CJ vs SKT, the 3 players that were listed for BW in week 1, can't be listed in BW vs SKT, they need to be listed for SC2 to be able to play BW again. So in week 2 if they play SC2, then in week 3 they can play BW again, if in week 2 they don't play (or play in the ace match only, I believe the ace match doesn't count as a SC2 match, it is special) in week 3 they still cant play BW. The samething happens in the opposite case. Players who play SC2 in week 1 need to play BW next week (or whatever week they play after if they're in a deep team) in order to be able to play SC2 again. Everyone will go BW-SC2-BW..... or SCtoo-BW-SCtoo.... So that means that even if you dont play but you are registered, it counts. For instance if CJ wins all sctoo games 2-0, and effort is listed everyother week as the third sc2 player, we will only see effort play bw because his sc2 games weren't needed due to CJ being awesome  I hope this helps =/ Ahhhhh, what was once gray is now crystal clear, thnx man -__-
thanks, finally I got it
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On May 15 2012 00:30 SarcasmMonster wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 21:09 Zergneedsfood wrote:On May 14 2012 11:14 SarcasmMonster wrote:On May 14 2012 09:57 Zergneedsfood wrote:On May 14 2012 04:30 fabiano wrote:
I'm not a veteran.
I will follow the SC2 SPL, at least for a while. I expect it to be very boring, but here I am giving yet another chance for SC2 to show me that it can be at least half exciting as BW.
I've given countless chances for SC2, my patience is running low though.
Edit: btw, if BW has to go, then I truly want SC2 to become good, I want to continue watching SKT1 roflstomping KT in every SPL. I want to keep seeing Fantasy TvTs, Bisu winning OSL.
You do know that Bisu winning OSLs in SC2 will be meaningless, right? It would mean a lot to his fans <3 Uhhh, not really. It'd kind of be like one of those events where people will go "Yeah, he won an....OSL?" But does that really mean anything when the OSL is about SC2? Really? Have Bisu fans stooped so low as to say "ANY OSL WILL DO. JUST WIN ONE." If that's the case, I'll just stop talking because I'm just going to laugh. Oh Zow.....if only you read things like this. On May 14 2012 11:28 BLinD-RawR wrote:On May 14 2012 09:57 Zergneedsfood wrote:On May 14 2012 04:30 fabiano wrote:
I'm not a veteran.
I will follow the SC2 SPL, at least for a while. I expect it to be very boring, but here I am giving yet another chance for SC2 to show me that it can be at least half exciting as BW.
I've given countless chances for SC2, my patience is running low though.
Edit: btw, if BW has to go, then I truly want SC2 to become good, I want to continue watching SKT1 roflstomping KT in every SPL. I want to keep seeing Fantasy TvTs, Bisu winning OSL.
You do know that Bisu winning OSLs in SC2 will be meaningless, right? im sure he'd do anything to get a hold of that trophy. Yeah. Doesn't stop it from being meaningless though.  I don't see why Bisu fans would be so cynical. Fans love seeing their idols win. Even Grubby fans from WC3 are happy when they see him win SC2 events. Grubby isn't exactly top tier, even for foreigners, but he has a huge fanbase in SC2 because of all the fans he carried over from his WC days. If Bisu does win a SC2 OSL, I don't think the fan's thoughts are "ANY OSL WILL DO. JUST WIN ONE". They are happy for him for winning a prestigous tourney that has people the likes of Flash, Jaedong, Stork, Fantasy, etc. (Sorry, English isn't my first language T_T).
The point is that winning an OSL in a different game is pretty pointless. There's no story.
Now, if Bisu lost like....20 OSLs in SC2 in a row, maybe....but then I might just laugh instead of rooting for him to win.
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proleague is almost here, im very hyped ;D
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On May 14 2012 03:55 R3demption wrote:
Can we all just agree that the StarCraft franchise, in all its glory, is better than any other game and our community is by far the most respected one out there? I could care less about a debate SC vs BW vs SC 2, because they're all great games and it comes down to individual opinion most of the time.
No. SC2 is not a great game yet. It is a good game. Respect and kindness are good, but they won't make SC2 a better game.
I don't give a crap about esports if I can't watch the a game I love. SC2 needs more harass, more 1 shots, more splash, more unit spacing, more really fast units, more ability to do moving shot micro, more good maps, and most of all it needs better unit/race design that rewards tech for all races and has a nice back and forth tension during a game.
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On May 15 2012 06:28 0neder wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 03:55 R3demption wrote:
Can we all just agree that the StarCraft franchise, in all its glory, is better than any other game and our community is by far the most respected one out there? I could care less about a debate SC vs BW vs SC 2, because they're all great games and it comes down to individual opinion most of the time. No. SC2 is not a great game yet. It is a bad game. Respect and kindness are good, but they won't make SC2 a better game. I don't give a crap about esports if I can't watch the a game I love. SC2 needs more harass, more 1 shots, more splash, more unit spacing, more really fast units, more ability to do moving shot micro, more good maps, and most of all it needs better unit/race design that rewards tech for all races and has a nice back and forth tension during a game.
I fixed it a little bit.
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they should make ACE match BW
definitely..
lets see how it works out.. It may be pretty funny
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On May 15 2012 06:41 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2012 06:28 0neder wrote:On May 14 2012 03:55 R3demption wrote:
Can we all just agree that the StarCraft franchise, in all its glory, is better than any other game and our community is by far the most respected one out there? I could care less about a debate SC vs BW vs SC 2, because they're all great games and it comes down to individual opinion most of the time. No. SC2 is not a great game yet. It is a bad game. Respect and kindness are good, but they won't make SC2 a better game. I don't give a crap about esports if I can't watch the a game I love. SC2 needs more harass, more 1 shots, more splash, more unit spacing, more really fast units, more ability to do moving shot micro, more good maps, and most of all it needs better unit/race design that rewards tech for all races and has a nice back and forth tension during a game. I fixed it a little bit.
exactly..
in my opinion, SC2 is made too good.. I mean in terms of it not having any bugs or glitches to exploit..
also the pathing AI is too good, making all those ball like armies.
and there is hardly any random stuff in SC2 while in BW its also the randomness that made it exciting.. (stupid scarabs, mines, etc..)
they still have a LOOOOOOOOONG way to match BW greatness, and I wouldnt be so sure if they ever reach it anyways..
I guess we will have to wait and see 
go go go !
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On May 14 2012 18:43 blubbdavid wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 14:36 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:On May 14 2012 13:53 icystorage wrote:On May 14 2012 13:49 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Slightly off topic, but I didn't think this deserved it own thread:
I played quite a bit of BW, but I never quite understood at what point the devourer becomes useful. I've read the wiki on it, but the unit felt so bulky and shot so slow that it just seemed like waste. I understand maybe a couple of them, but science vessels for example have more of a usefull role then they do. Or am I way off?
(For the record I was never uber competitive in traditional BW, though I did play. I sunk most of my hours in UMS or Custom games.) you could as in the simple questions simple answers thread well, for one, their spores slow the attack speed of other air units too when stacked. they have a lot of hp too so they dont go down easily Oh then I'll toss it in there thanks for tip. Mutas + Devourers = aerial rape. Devourers slow the enemy airship's attack rate. Additionally, it applies an debuff, which makes the affected unit take 1 more damage. This might not be much, but when there are 9 debuffs on a unit, he will take 9 more damage per attack. A mutalisk makes 9-3-1 damage with it's glaive worm. Now imagine a single muta shooting at three corsairs that have nine stacks of violet goo on them. The mutalisk will deal 18-12-10 damage per attack. Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 18:16 Manimal_pro wrote:
Lol this doesnt make any sense..... If devour/muta combo is so called "aerial rape" then how come I hardly ever see it used. You would think something that rapes would be used more often like seige tanks/vulture combo.
it's so hard for me to decide if I am going to root for KT Rolster or SKT T1 Root for KT.
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On May 16 2012 16:49 PurePwnageofTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 18:43 blubbdavid wrote:On May 14 2012 14:36 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:On May 14 2012 13:53 icystorage wrote:On May 14 2012 13:49 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Slightly off topic, but I didn't think this deserved it own thread:
I played quite a bit of BW, but I never quite understood at what point the devourer becomes useful. I've read the wiki on it, but the unit felt so bulky and shot so slow that it just seemed like waste. I understand maybe a couple of them, but science vessels for example have more of a usefull role then they do. Or am I way off?
(For the record I was never uber competitive in traditional BW, though I did play. I sunk most of my hours in UMS or Custom games.) you could as in the simple questions simple answers thread well, for one, their spores slow the attack speed of other air units too when stacked. they have a lot of hp too so they dont go down easily Oh then I'll toss it in there thanks for tip. Mutas + Devourers = aerial rape. Devourers slow the enemy airship's attack rate. Additionally, it applies an debuff, which makes the affected unit take 1 more damage. This might not be much, but when there are 9 debuffs on a unit, he will take 9 more damage per attack. A mutalisk makes 9-3-1 damage with it's glaive worm. Now imagine a single muta shooting at three corsairs that have nine stacks of violet goo on them. The mutalisk will deal 18-12-10 damage per attack. On May 14 2012 18:16 Manimal_pro wrote:
Lol this doesnt make any sense..... If devour/muta combo is so called "aerial rape" then how come I hardly ever see it used. You would think something that rapes would be used more often like seige tanks/vulture combo.
it's so hard for me to decide if I am going to root for KT Rolster or SKT T1 Root for KT.
Lol this doesnt make any sense..... If devour/muta combo is so called "aerial rape" then how come I hardly ever see it used. You would think something that rapes would be used more often like seige tanks/vulture combo.
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On May 16 2012 16:50 PurePwnageofTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2012 16:49 PurePwnageofTerran wrote:On May 14 2012 18:43 blubbdavid wrote:On May 14 2012 14:36 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:On May 14 2012 13:53 icystorage wrote:On May 14 2012 13:49 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Slightly off topic, but I didn't think this deserved it own thread:
I played quite a bit of BW, but I never quite understood at what point the devourer becomes useful. I've read the wiki on it, but the unit felt so bulky and shot so slow that it just seemed like waste. I understand maybe a couple of them, but science vessels for example have more of a usefull role then they do. Or am I way off?
(For the record I was never uber competitive in traditional BW, though I did play. I sunk most of my hours in UMS or Custom games.) you could as in the simple questions simple answers thread well, for one, their spores slow the attack speed of other air units too when stacked. they have a lot of hp too so they dont go down easily Oh then I'll toss it in there thanks for tip. Mutas + Devourers = aerial rape. Devourers slow the enemy airship's attack rate. Additionally, it applies an debuff, which makes the affected unit take 1 more damage. This might not be much, but when there are 9 debuffs on a unit, he will take 9 more damage per attack. A mutalisk makes 9-3-1 damage with it's glaive worm. Now imagine a single muta shooting at three corsairs that have nine stacks of violet goo on them. The mutalisk will deal 18-12-10 damage per attack. On May 14 2012 18:16 Manimal_pro wrote:
Lol this doesnt make any sense..... If devour/muta combo is so called "aerial rape" then how come I hardly ever see it used. You would think something that rapes would be used more often like seige tanks/vulture combo.
it's so hard for me to decide if I am going to root for KT Rolster or SKT T1 Root for KT. Lol this doesnt make any sense..... If devour/muta combo is so called "aerial rape" then how come I hardly ever see it used. You would think something that rapes would be used more often like seige tanks/vulture combo.
because bw hardly goes into air vs air
it usually happens in TvT (BC/wraith/valk vs BC/wraith/valk)
ZvP not much (sairs vs muta/scourge, hardly any devourers)
ZvZ late game but rare too since it hardly goes late game
but muta/devourer combo rapes, just like what the previous poster has explained
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ugh, my heart feels sad
I'm kind of excited to see the BW crew play SCtoo, but I fear the novelty will soon wear off.
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