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Game
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You don't quit BW, BW quits you. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
Tournaments really need sponsors, rather than polling money from fans. | ||
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Game
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On April 30 2012 09:49 Cambium wrote: I don't mind making a one-time donation even if it's a larger sum, assuming it's actually something worthwhile like the first TSL. The monthly donations really don't make sense. It'll just deteriorate over time. Tournaments really need sponsors, rather than polling money from fans. Fan money brings sponsor money. Game, check your e-mail | ||
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Starburst
United States108 Posts
On April 30 2012 09:40 maltey wrote: Lol I'm certain I am taking too much credit, but that makes no sense to me at all. I wasn't saying I did anything near what L_master and his group did. (Which BTW I linked to this thread in the OP this morning after reading it all last night) if you read my post I was talking about a shift in the recent BW General conversation from the "Your post-BW plans" thread and all the other SC2 v BW debate threads to Jaevlaterran's and ninazerg's threads plus someone resurrecting L_master's thread (Starburst I think). I haven't done crap, but at least the conversation changed. EDIT: btw that very thread was ressurected by starburst who linked to my thread btw. Lol. Representin' for them gangstas all across the world.  | ||
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Game
3191 Posts
On April 30 2012 10:14 Ribbon wrote: Automatic port-forwarding and some kind of auto-matchmaking based on ELO would go a LOOOOOONG way towards adding to the player base (it'd certainly get me playing a lot more BW!) Fan money brings sponsor money. Game, check your e-mail First part: After my finals tomorrow and Tuesday, I'm going to find the time to write a thread about my ELO initiative which I basically just need help on. Second part: ^^ | ||
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maltey
United States38 Posts
@ game it probably should become a sponsor recruiting thread. I'll add that to the OP when i get home. @everyone Also, I'm not sure what the big deal is with paying 3, 5, or 10 $ a month voluntarily vs having to pay 20 bucks a month for gsl? IMO if we ever do get some content out it cant be behind a paywall. Sc2 can do that cause its new and shiny but we cant right? If we can get someone or someones willing to sponsor us right away i'm all for that. I imagine though that game and clan had go to hell and back just to scrounge up what he did for basically a once a year tourney. I was hoping several months down the road we'd have a few of the hardcore supporting the content then a year or two down the road a sponsor or two if this _long shot_ project were to be actually successful. EDIT: Grammar | ||
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Game
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maltey
United States38 Posts
On April 30 2012 11:18 Game wrote: Hmm.. ISL1 Feb 2011, ISL2 June 2011, took a break and retired to focus on school, came back with ISL3 Feb 2012... it's really not once a year, also had 16 tournaments from $75-300 in between those times so that there could be BW every single Saturday. It's indeed hard to find sponsors, but has become easier over time once you know who you're dealing with and what to do and look for. Also, GSL is a multi-million dollar production and deserves to be able to charge a membership fee. Like anything in business, you can't ask for money for a production, you have to give the production and convince people it's good enough to splurge on. I don't believe small monthly donations would be beneficial, rather larger (between 25-100) once every _x_ months as a supporter could afford it, once a product is presented to them. I stand corrected sir. Well done. ISL 2 finished up in august I remembered that but hadn't seen ISL 1 so I made some assumptions. Sorry.  As far as the rest goes. That's exactly the concept: IF a product were presented to them would TL find the model acceptable. This is all an attempt to get the community involved in theorycrafting if you haven't noticed. This isn't "herp derp give me money monthly plox maybe youll get something maybe ya wont lulz" EDIT: I should clarify. Right now all we have is CaucasianAsian's connection to the amateur scene who are very willing to participate in tournaments. Cool. Step 2: Market Research What would the market, which is TL, bear? Like any business, you usually do research before you actually invest in a product. EDIT 2: I should have read this post again after I wrote it. I apologize to game then I follow that apology up by being a total dick. LOL. That makes sense. (ofc, it was intended more as a joke but it certainly didn't come off that way) | ||
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Game
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maltey
United States38 Posts
On April 30 2012 11:36 Game wrote: Just giving a realistic explanation of a feasible model man, don't get offended. I wouldn't post in this thread if I didn't think it was constructive. I apologize. I think the internets didn't convey my feelings. It was supposed to be more joking than reactionary. Should have thrown a winky face on the end.  I was riled up though to be sure. Thanks for your help sir. | ||
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Nylan
United States795 Posts
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maltey
United States38 Posts
On April 30 2012 11:57 Nylan wrote: If and where big sponsors cannot be found, smaller businesses can sponsor individual match days I suppose. That's less of a risk, though it does require finding more companies. Yep. And that's what Game did for the ISL's. Maybe it can't be done but what I think we're really looking for is consistency. Can we somehow fund a league with good production value and attract the highest level BW players in Korea. | ||
CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11593 Posts
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maltey
United States38 Posts
On April 30 2012 12:30 CaucasianAsian wrote: Pro gamers 99% of the time are not allowed to play in non-pro leagues in case of leaked replays etc... Is this referring to my last post? Because i actually meant korean amateurs sorry. Should have said highest level after bw pros switch to sc2 or something like that. | ||
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miscelaneous
United States67 Posts
On April 30 2012 12:30 CaucasianAsian wrote: Pro gamers 99% of the time are not allowed to play in non-pro leagues in case of leaked replays etc... Really? I guess they don't want people getting strategies directly from the source. | ||
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Darksoldierr
Hungary2012 Posts
On April 30 2012 09:47 Game wrote: IMO anyone who bought into that post-BW plans thread was a BW hipster anyway You don't quit BW, BW quits you.And in Soviet Russia minerals mine you | ||
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shenlong
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TehRei
Sweden261 Posts
Dunno if this particular idea will work out -- put it could, and if so I'm willing to give some money if that's what it takes. Otherwise there should be other BW-tournaments that wouldn't say no to an increase in pricepool. | ||
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maltey
United States38 Posts
On May 01 2012 01:52 TehRei wrote: I figure I could probably part with around 50$ a month if that means I get some high-level BW casted for it. Seeing as I'll probably start studying again this fall I don't know for how long I could keep that up, but I'm sure I could at least contribute a small sum of money for as long as someone else is willing to organize a tournament. Dunno if this particular idea will work out -- put it could, and if so I'm willing to give some money if that's what it takes. Otherwise there should be other BW-tournaments that wouldn't say no to an increase in pricepool. Make sure you join Jaevlaterran's group then  It's here. | ||
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