Rumors on SC Proleague Season 2 - Page 19

On March 24 2012 04:55 Jealous wrote:

I am going to base this entirely off of your assertions:

I think what he was trying to say, and something I agree with, is that a game that can be played competitively for money regardless of skill (I'm guessing you meant relative skill not absolute skill? Because if there was no skill at all then...) is not a game that I would

1. Want to watch
2. Want to watch over a game that does not operate regardless of skill
3. Want to watch that game intermitently with the game that does in a single league
4. Consider to be bring a "new level" of progaming.

It is bringing a new level of accessibility, not progaming - people who would never be able to crack it in BW are now competing against each other, and that's a great thing that there is some outlet for people who want to play games competitively outside of the intense level of skill necessary for BW. The foreign scene surely flourished because of this availability, and I'm happy for you guys. However, don't say that this brought a "new level of progaming" unless you mean a lower, less exclusive level (defense: you yourself said that it is regardless of skill).

On March 24 2012 05:05 Ribbon wrote:
Guys, seriously, the more I think of this, the more I start to like it.

As BW folks are fond of saying, everyone who was going to switch to SC2 already has. I'm not sure if that's true since SC2 has slowly improved, but there are still a LOT more SC2 fans with the potential to be interested in BW than the reverse. This is going to pretty significantly increase BW viewership, and a good chunk of those SC2 fans watching are going to like BW, and be more interested in the idea of paying to see an OSL.

It's cheesy and silly because it's a massive ad campaign for BW.

On March 24 2012 04:57 Ribbon wrote:
Like, who is this aimed at? I know there's a lot of overlap between the SC2 and BW fanbases, but that's still kind of awkward and weird. You wouldn't have players playing both games to be all-around mediocre, you'd have a KT BW team and a KT SC2 team, anyway, so you don't gain much in that regard.

Okay, let's try and be fair. What about this idea ISN'T stupid.

1. It allows BW to subsist on those sweet tasty foreign $$$, thus potentially saving it and helping it retain its existence, meaning
2. More OSLs, once the economy improves. You could consider this idea life support for BW as it gets through a tough time
3. It introduces people who are exclusively fans of one game to the other. Meaning we'll have a lot more foreign BW fans...

....

You know, actually, even though this is a stupid long-term idea, if you think of it as a short-term way to stabilize and inject foreign cash into BW so it can exist in a few years, it actually starts to kind of make sense. After years of fandom wars, the idea that SC2 can be used to save BW is a novel one, but it might actually work. In another year or two when the economy's better, BW will be much better able to stand on its own again.


Hm.



Which, in their defense, they seem to be. There's a custom that emulates the announced HotS changes, and it's considered to be notably mechanically harder than WoL, even though it's still far short of BW.

Maybe the KeSPA proleague will go with the "Breadth of Gameplay in SC2" idea and reduce the resource count, too.

On March 24 2012 05:05 Ribbon wrote:
Guys, seriously, the more I think of this, the more I start to like it.

As BW folks are fond of saying, everyone who was going to switch to SC2 already has. I'm not sure if that's true since SC2 has slowly improved, but there are still a LOT more SC2 fans with the potential to be interested in BW than the reverse. This is going to pretty significantly increase BW viewership, and a good chunk of those SC2 fans watching are going to like BW, and be more interested in the idea of paying to see an OSL.

It's cheesy and silly because it's a massive ad campaign for BW.

On March 24 2012 05:10 Lucumo wrote:

Yeah, but it's not like those foreign stream viewers matter...unless they want to pull some pay-to-view stream bs. In Korea, it's extremely unlikely that there are SC2 people who have never watched or seen BW.

On March 24 2012 05:13 palexhur wrote:


Mixing the games is not going to bring more foreign money to Kespa, It will be the same money that they could obtain from a SC2 Proleague, more watchers to BW?, TL has always the streams at the right corner and people who wants to see BW (foreigners) are just watching it, .

On March 24 2012 05:10 dsousa wrote:
Since everyone hates it... I like it. I want to see players play both so we can understand the transition process. Truly evaluate which is more fun to watch.

Go SC2.

On March 24 2012 05:05 Ribbon wrote:
Guys, seriously, the more I think of this, the more I start to like it.

As BW folks are fond of saying, everyone who was going to switch to SC2 already has. I'm not sure if that's true since SC2 has slowly improved, but there are still a LOT more SC2 fans with the potential to be interested in BW than the reverse. This is going to pretty significantly increase BW viewership, and a good chunk of those SC2 fans watching are going to like BW, and be more interested in the idea of paying to see an OSL.

It's cheesy and silly because it's a massive ad campaign for BW.

On March 24 2012 05:19 cuppatea wrote:
Like it or not the graphics are extremely dated and that alone is enough to put off most SC2 fans. I don't see this bringing many new fans to BW at all.

On March 24 2012 05:23 StarStruck wrote:


Here we go about the graphics thing again. That's personal preference man. If you ask me I prefer the rigid, non-flashy graphics of BW over SC2 anyday because things are more clear for me, but that's just me.

I know there are a few others who feel this way too and likewise there are a number of people in your camp who repeat that shit too.

It doesn't change anything though.

If you are used to the setting and the game then everything is gravy. I'm used to watching both but I would still say its easier for me to identify objects and number of units in BW. Once again that's just me.