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pPingu
Switzerland2892 Posts
On October 20 2011 21:00 [F_]aths wrote: Not yet, which is understandable as most top pro gamers still play Broodwar. It's the players who bring the skill and excitement. BW pro gamers have no reason to switch yet and it's not because they switch that the fans will follow them. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On October 20 2011 21:11 ShadeR wrote: It's going to be like how SC2 fans raged when IPL showed LOL games inbetween SC2...=/ WHY IS THERE SC2 IN MY PL GET OFF WHERE IS MY BW. Or something like that. | ||
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ishboh
United States954 Posts
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blubbdavid
Switzerland2412 Posts
On October 20 2011 09:37 Xiphos wrote: Then one drama after another start to unfold with the Blizzard vs Kespa lawsuits and as I picked up my copy of SC2 and start to play it. I watched from the FruiDealer GSL and all it doesn't look 'StarCraft' at all, it looked like a complete different game with just same storyline. I saw my dream shattered right in front of me and you have no fucking idea how hard that pain is. This exactly describes my life. Props to you Sir  | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On October 20 2011 21:22 Kipsate wrote: WHY IS THERE SC2 IN MY PL GET OFF WHERE IS MY BW. Or something like that. Well that's more or less how i'll react =/. | ||
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forumtext
575 Posts
On October 20 2011 20:58 bRiz wrote: sc2 as a game is less exciting to watch alone, but with the community doing barcrafts and lots of meet-ups and get togethers far exceeding anything bw has done outside of korea, it really makes it an overall more pleasing experience for me personally. If HOTS addresses some minor issues then I think we can look forward to a bright future! I honestly think BarCraft is a bad move for Blizzard. Sponsor will become wary when you tries to associate their image to alcohol drinking. Yes I know there are non alcoholic drinks in bars, but when you see a bunch of young people shouting and cheering in a bar, I doubt many people will think: "hmm, maybe they are drinking orange juice". | ||
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Nastiness
Sweden275 Posts
On October 20 2011 21:49 forumtext wrote: I honestly think BarCraft is a bad move for Blizzard. Sponsor will become wary when you tries to associate their image to alcohol drinking. Yes I know there are non alcoholic drinks in bars, but when you see a bunch of young people shouting and cheering in a bar, I doubt many people will think: "hmm, maybe they are drinking orange juice". Yeah cause its not like you mix drinks with orange juice/coke and what ever.. And beverage sponsors are kinda small in general.. I agree! | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On October 20 2011 14:44 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: Its troll-bait posts like these that get SC2 fanboys making their own troll posts. If you don't want to deal with SC2 crap, don't go throwing out fighting words like this. Part of me thinks there is a part of BW forum community that actually likes these kinds of fights..... Probably. It's a shame some of us BW guys go and post crap like that. Oh well, seems like some people on both sides just can't spot this awful flaming and trolling nonsense. Really hope we eventually reach a point where everyone from the BW community stops feeling so threatened by SC2 and the sc2 fanboys also stop feeling the need to throw random jibes at the BW community. I really do believe these games can co-exist side by side with each one benefiting the other. | ||
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zocktol
Germany1928 Posts
On October 20 2011 21:49 forumtext wrote: I honestly think BarCraft is a bad move for Blizzard. Sponsor will become wary when you tries to associate their image to alcohol drinking. Yes I know there are non alcoholic drinks in bars, but when you see a bunch of young people shouting and cheering in a bar, I doubt many people will think: "hmm, maybe they are drinking orange juice". Why should sponsors bother, if the fans of a sport are drinking alcohol while watching or not. You might not get sponsored by companies that condemn alcohol, but if you look at other major sports, like soccer in Europe or Formula 1, you can see that they are getting sponsored by every company possible, no matter if alcohol is involved or not. The whole Barcraft thing is oriented towards a comparison to Sports Bars. Starcraft 2 is designed as a eSport and fans of sports are usually drinking a beer or two while shouting at the screen to cheer on their favorite player. On the whole SC2 in PL thing, nobody ever said, that BW would be replaced by SC2. PL could just become a mixed game format, where teams are competing in BW and SC2. That would keep BW present and alive and expose SC2 to a bigger crowd. On October 20 2011 22:00 L_Master wrote: I really do believe these games can co-exist side by side with each one benefiting the other. Exactly, BW is not as visually appealing as SC2, just from a modern graphical standpoint, it just looks old, awesome but old. SC2 can draw in people wiht fancy explosions, show them how awesome and hard strategy and multitasking is and then push them into BW where their jaw will just melt :D | ||
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gn0m
Sweden302 Posts
On October 20 2011 21:00 [F_]aths wrote: Not yet, which is understandable as most top pro gamers still play Broodwar. It's the players who bring the skill and excitement. You definitely got a point; good players make the game more exciting. But many of the flaws of SC2 exist due to the game design itself. Obviously, we haven’t seen what amazing players can do in SC2 yet and I’m positive that the game play will become more exiting in the future. But given the design of the game, I find it hard to believe that a S-class BW player somehow would improve the game to a whole new level. Trough the many limitations of BW, there is an endless amount of tasks that a progamer can excel in. Paradoxically, the streamlined design of SC2 acts more like a limit for the truly skilled players. I mean, it wouldn’t be that exciting to see Jangbi filling a screen with clutch storm when pretty much any progamer can do the same. The game may or may not be improved with the expansions but the fact that Blizzard is hell-bent on removing techniques that “was not intended in the game” doesn’t bode well. I much prefer a game that evolves trough innovative play, rather than by patches. | ||
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Pelopidas
Canada225 Posts
On October 20 2011 21:49 forumtext wrote: I honestly think BarCraft is a bad move for Blizzard. Sponsor will become wary when you tries to associate their image to alcohol drinking. Yes I know there are non alcoholic drinks in bars, but when you see a bunch of young people shouting and cheering in a bar, I doubt many people will think: "hmm, maybe they are drinking orange juice". I'm pretty sure that adults drinking alcohol is socially acceptable, and non controversial. I don't think sponsors care, it isn't like anti alcohol activists have any interest in gaming at all. | ||
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forumtext
575 Posts
On October 20 2011 21:56 Nastiness wrote: Yeah cause its not like you mix drinks with orange juice/coke and what ever.. And beverage sponsors are kinda small in general.. I agree! Yes beverage sponsor will LOVE it. | ||
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4vvhiplash7
South Africa392 Posts
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Jamial
Denmark1289 Posts
On October 20 2011 06:57 mustaju wrote: KeSPA is an agency that governs eSports in Korea through progamer licences and through the tournaments it organizes. Kart Rider, Special Forces and Brood War are the most popular ones that KeSPA is responsible for. SC2 players don't have progamer licences, and are not associated with KeSPA yet. You are confusing the phenomenon of SC2 with a more national approach towards gaming that Korea has taken. They are different, but might be merged, such as this thread suggests. Thank you!  Finally a clear answer. | ||
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sunman1g
United States334 Posts
On October 20 2011 21:40 blubbdavid wrote: This exactly describes my life. Props to you Sir NO WAY!!! a game that came out 10 years later than the first one and has a giant number 2 next to it.. is a different game compared to the original ? no fucking way. | ||
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Australia1361 Posts
I will rage if they thread games between games of bw though, that would be like an extra long ad break, except with less interesting ads >< | ||
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NexCa
Germany954 Posts
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ravemir
Portugal595 Posts
On October 20 2011 20:06 forumtext wrote: That's because most sc2 fans are foreign fans. Sponsor always follow the fans. Only time can tell how loyal they will be. I guess fans probably would follow the top-level SC2 leagues, but if e-sports actually picks up a bit more steam, it's possible that casual interest will be in domestic leagues, a bit like what is happening with soccer: fans watch local leagues religiously, but hardcore fans (and the betting community) follow every major European match. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On October 20 2011 22:23 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote: Meh so long as the games are shown either before or after the bw, I'm not too fussed about it. I will rage if they thread games between games of bw though, that would be like an extra long ad break, except with less interesting ads >< I rather watch nanashin stream that fat korean girl eating food. | ||
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leo23
United States3075 Posts
On October 20 2011 22:24 ShadeR wrote: I rather watch nanashin stream that fat korean girl eating food. hahah that is pretty disgusting but a good time killer | ||
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