• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:10
CEST 17:10
KST 00:10
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow6[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30
Community News
MaNa leaves Team Liquid14$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy5GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding7Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage5
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool MaNa leaves Team Liquid Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Quebec Clan still alive ? BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow Leta's ASL Ro24 Review The Korean Terminology Thread ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro16 Group A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group F
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates Muta micro map competition What's the deal with APM & what's its true value
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The China Politics Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
How Streamers Inspire Gamers…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1816 users

Fomos content: Stop using it - Page 6

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 30 Next All
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 27 2011 23:49 GMT
#101
Obviously not a good thing, but it could be worse I suppose. Rather disappointed in Fomos though
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
May 27 2011 23:56 GMT
#102
So, when do we get netizen reactions to this? I want to see how the Koreans are taking it and whether they support the decision or not, because that is THEIR fanbase.
ǝsnoɥ ssɐlƃ ɐ uı sǝuoʇs ʍoɹɥʇ ʇ,uop || sıʇɹoɟ ɹǝdɯǝs
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
May 28 2011 00:01 GMT
#103
Reminds me of this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=207326

Except it's not a joke

Some of the progamer display pictures are taken from fomos right?
( ・´ー・`)
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33587 Posts
May 28 2011 00:02 GMT
#104
On May 28 2011 08:56 Murderotica wrote:
So, when do we get netizen reactions to this? I want to see how the Koreans are taking it and whether they support the decision or not, because that is THEIR fanbase.


Don't know, don't care.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Paragleiber
Profile Joined June 2009
413 Posts
May 28 2011 00:10 GMT
#105
Somebody should save all the old translations and put them onto a website or blog. I mean what can Fomos do about this? I don't see how they would be able to get the stuff removed. As far as I know there is this fair use law in the US and I think as long as Fomos doesn't provide perfect translations of their stuff themselves this totally applies here. Of course I understand it if TL itself doesn't want to act like this though because it doesn't want to hurt its relationship to Fomos.
http://www.twitter.com/Paragleiber
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
May 28 2011 00:16 GMT
#106
I'm never going to visit Fomos now. TL and its great writers and translators single-handedly kept the BW foreigner scene alive. They give a big "fuck you" to us and then expect to use us to make profit for themselves? Well guess what Fomos: "fuck YOU."
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
May 28 2011 00:21 GMT
#107
Wow this is just real unfortunate :/
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
Geniuszerg
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada454 Posts
May 28 2011 00:21 GMT
#108
this makes me =( i love the translated content ppl put up on tl from fomos
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
May 28 2011 00:28 GMT
#109
On May 28 2011 09:02 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 08:56 Murderotica wrote:
So, when do we get netizen reactions to this? I want to see how the Koreans are taking it and whether they support the decision or not, because that is THEIR fanbase.


Don't know, don't care.

Well, I might be wrong but I think they would, and by extension we should too. I'm not saying you're the one that has to do them.
ǝsnoɥ ssɐlƃ ɐ uı sǝuoʇs ʍoɹɥʇ ʇ,uop || sıʇɹoɟ ɹǝdɯǝs
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
May 28 2011 00:33 GMT
#110
I think the thing we will miss the most is the pictures and the very big interviews Fomos does on players every so often. I guess we could wait for the English translation by them, but I'd rather thank someone who does it out of the love for the game and not the paycheck to churn out a translation as soon as possible with very little proof reading.
Brood War forever!
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
May 28 2011 00:34 GMT
#111
On May 28 2011 09:28 Murderotica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 09:02 Waxangel wrote:
On May 28 2011 08:56 Murderotica wrote:
So, when do we get netizen reactions to this? I want to see how the Koreans are taking it and whether they support the decision or not, because that is THEIR fanbase.


Don't know, don't care.

Well, I might be wrong but I think they would, and by extension we should too. I'm not saying you're the one that has to do them.

I think he means "They don't know, they don't care," not "I don't know, I don't care."
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
aokces
Profile Joined October 2006
United States309 Posts
May 28 2011 00:45 GMT
#112
On May 28 2011 06:01 Waxangel wrote:

[*]Translating 100% of an interview or article word for word is infringement.

[*]You can still cite a Fomos article and relate the general story, but translating entire block segments of an article or interview is infringement.



This seems rather weak. No one translates perfectly word for word from Korean to English.

As far as interviews are concerned why credit Fomos at all?
Our translators are (and obviously always have been) translating directly from the post-game interview and not from any of Fomos' stuff. :D
Wihl
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden472 Posts
May 28 2011 00:57 GMT
#113
Seems like a really bad move by fomos to be honest. How does it hurt them in any way? Shooting themselves in the foot.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2547 Posts
May 28 2011 01:00 GMT
#114
I guess SDM finally decided to translate things instead of stealing from the TL translators articles.
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
May 28 2011 01:02 GMT
#115
OMFG, how many punishments we have to take by loving BW?

First the scandal, then Kespa/Blizzard and now this?

TL translators are the best because they love the game and the foreign community! I doubt Fomos can do even a half-decent job if all they care about is money.
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-28 01:09:42
May 28 2011 01:06 GMT
#116
On May 28 2011 09:57 Wihl wrote:
Seems like a really bad move by fomos to be honest. How does it hurt them in any way? Shooting themselves in the foot.


It doesn't hurt them at all. It just hurts our BW community. I can understand their complaints though. I mean we used to have a lot of beef with GosuGamers.net copying and pasting our news, but this is a little bit different when you have a team of translators bring us the news in their words. I mean to paraphrase interviews feels kind of stupid because you lose even more tone (not like this wasn't already an issue before). So, what do we do now? Post a few questions and a few answers and hotlink the article here without pictures?

Looks like we need NeverGG more than ever. Funny thing is she did stuff for fomos! o;

On May 28 2011 09:45 aokces wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 06:01 Waxangel wrote:

[*]Translating 100% of an interview or article word for word is infringement.

[*]You can still cite a Fomos article and relate the general story, but translating entire block segments of an article or interview is infringement.



This seems rather weak. No one translates perfectly word for word from Korean to English.

As far as interviews are concerned why credit Fomos at all?
Our translators are (and obviously always have been) translating directly from the post-game interview and not from any of Fomos' stuff. :D


Couldn't say it better myself.

Why the heck are they trying to isolate the biggest foreign Brood War news site even more is my only question?

*Bangs fist on table*

I want answers!
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
May 28 2011 01:14 GMT
#117
It's their own stuff, don't really see why they aren't entitled to stop the translations. They are the biggest fish in the sea, which does kinda suck, but not the only fish out there.

Regardless, thanks to all the translators who have done a wonderful job.
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
May 28 2011 01:17 GMT
#118
On May 28 2011 09:34 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 09:28 Murderotica wrote:
On May 28 2011 09:02 Waxangel wrote:
On May 28 2011 08:56 Murderotica wrote:
So, when do we get netizen reactions to this? I want to see how the Koreans are taking it and whether they support the decision or not, because that is THEIR fanbase.


Don't know, don't care.

Well, I might be wrong but I think they would, and by extension we should too. I'm not saying you're the one that has to do them.

I think he means "They don't know, they don't care," not "I don't know, I don't care."

Oh. Guess that does make a lot more sense, as it reflects that foreigners are trash in their minds as always.
ǝsnoɥ ssɐlƃ ɐ uı sǝuoʇs ʍoɹɥʇ ʇ,uop || sıʇɹoɟ ɹǝdɯǝs
Espelz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany830 Posts
May 28 2011 01:17 GMT
#119
Hrm.. correct me if I´m wrong, but one main argument (other than losing TL translation team job security of course !) seems to be that right now it is really nice to have all the interviews here on TL in a way that you can search the forum for the right interview-thread.

Assuming that fomos is able to translate the interviews timely and in good quality, wouldn´t it be enough then to do what happens in other forum sections for quite some time now and just link a small part of the interview with the fomos-link to the whole translation ?

You´d still have everything kind of "here" in the sense that you find everything when you search for it, without the need of other ways to circumvent the situation.

It all depends on the quality of the fomos translation though
"Its not over till Fantasy gg´s" - Sayle
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
May 28 2011 01:30 GMT
#120
On May 28 2011 10:17 Espelz wrote:
Hrm.. correct me if I´m wrong, but one main argument (other than losing TL translation team job security of course !) seems to be that right now it is really nice to have all the interviews here on TL in a way that you can search the forum for the right interview-thread.

Assuming that fomos is able to translate the interviews timely and in good quality, wouldn´t it be enough then to do what happens in other forum sections for quite some time now and just link a small part of the interview with the fomos-link to the whole translation ?

You´d still have everything kind of "here" in the sense that you find everything when you search for it, without the need of other ways to circumvent the situation.

It all depends on the quality of the fomos translation though

That last bit is the part that is worrying us. They must have 0 confidence in their own translators if they stole TL content, and then the fact that they partnered a CHINESE site to do English translations of Korean material does not bode well. We can't know until now, but there is clearly some lack of security about the quality of future translations. Not only that, but not all interviews have been translated, and not in a timely manner in a past. We can hope that this will be different, and I am sure that no one would seriously mind what you mentioned if indeed everything turns out fine and dandy (except TL translators maybe, but they did what they did for the community and hopefully not for any sort of status). It definitely does not cheapen their past contributions.
ǝsnoɥ ssɐlƃ ɐ uı sǝuoʇs ʍoɹɥʇ ʇ,uop || sıʇɹoɟ ɹǝdɯǝs
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 30 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 50m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
LamboSC2 314
Hui .286
Lowko273
ProTech127
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 12986
Calm 7234
Bisu 3943
Horang2 2124
Jaedong 1600
Mini 611
EffOrt 522
BeSt 464
Stork 440
firebathero 397
[ Show more ]
Larva 242
Soulkey 167
Hyun 156
Zeus 148
Rush 135
actioN 133
Pusan 110
ggaemo 68
Dewaltoss 66
[sc1f]eonzerg 60
Sea.KH 52
ToSsGirL 50
Mind 50
Killer 47
zelot 37
Barracks 29
Nal_rA 27
Rock 20
Movie 17
Terrorterran 15
GoRush 15
Hm[arnc] 15
IntoTheRainbow 11
SilentControl 11
Bale 10
Sexy 7
Dota 2
qojqva1945
syndereN279
420jenkins184
League of Legends
Reynor20
Counter-Strike
fl0m4522
olofmeister3716
Other Games
hiko953
B2W.Neo947
XBOCT340
crisheroes299
Pyrionflax173
KnowMe120
RotterdaM91
QueenE80
ArmadaUGS58
Mew2King36
Trikslyr20
Organizations
Other Games
WardiTV721
BasetradeTV632
Counter-Strike
PGL254
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 17
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• Noizen47
League of Legends
• Nemesis2018
• TFBlade1396
• Jankos770
Other Games
• Shiphtur27
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
50m
OSC
8h 50m
Afreeca Starleague
18h 50m
Snow vs PianO
hero vs Rain
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
18h 50m
GSL
20h 50m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 8h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 17h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 20h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Escore
3 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4 days
IPSL
5 days
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
5 days
Ladder Legends
5 days
BSL
6 days
IPSL
6 days
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W2
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.