It's time for someone on TL to do his part and conduct the interviews in Korea. Since Tasteless is already there, I suggest we pressure him until he agrees. And maybe pay for Korean lessons. Stop messing with them Korean girls and do some work - we need you more then ever

GenesisX

Canada4267 Posts

May 27 2011 23:09 GMT

#86

what... paraphrase is ok though?

EDIT: EVOLUTION COMPLETE

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

May 27 2011 23:10 GMT

#87

Posted by LML on March 28th, 2011 filed in StarCraft News
Earlier today superdanielman tweeted that he will be working with fomos and that we will be able to read original articles in english soon. This morning superdanielman, mostly known from casting the GOMTV StarCraft Averatec Intel Classics alongside the furious Nick 'Tasteless' Plott, tweeted that he is going to work for fomos and that we are going to be able to read original articles in english, soon. Later on he confirmed the message saying that fomos.co.kr will start an english site and asked everyone interested in e-sports and daring to fight evil ninjas to volunteer. Simply E-mail him at broods@gmail.com and you might have the chance to help out creating something great.

moopie

12605 Posts

May 27 2011 23:16 GMT

#88

On May 28 2011 08:01 Sajiki wrote:
does that actually mean the end of nadas body? :O

No it means we need neggy to come out of retirement.

infinitestory

United States4053 Posts

May 27 2011 23:17 GMT

#89

There are basically no pluses to this at all.

1) If they ask us to take down all our old interviews, we have to comply. I doubt I'll be able to save all my old ones, and I haven't even translated that many.

2) Sometimes, DES doesn't even publish an interview (i think).

3) A VERY large majority of Chinese interviews cite fomos, so I'm pretty much out of a job here.

maybenexttime

Poland5406 Posts

May 27 2011 23:23 GMT

#90

On May 28 2011 08:00 Waxangel wrote:

Show nested quote +

we've spoken with Fomos, things just didn't work out.

It's weird, didn't TL just want their translations to get acknowledged the same way TL acknowledges Fomos/DES as sources? ;o

sushiman

Sweden2691 Posts

May 27 2011 23:27 GMT

#91

I always thought news articles were free to distribute as you wish as long as you gave the proper source, unlike fiction were you could only use quotes... Guess interviews and such isn't regarded as public content. :/

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

May 27 2011 23:31 GMT

#92

On May 28 2011 08:27 sushiman wrote:
I always thought news articles were free to distribute as you wish as long as you gave the proper source, unlike fiction were you could only use quotes... Guess interviews and such isn't regarded as public content. :/

Derivative works (including translations) belong to the original author. It sucks, but that's how it is.

Tadzio

3340 Posts

May 27 2011 23:35 GMT

#93

On May 28 2011 06:31 Iplaythings wrote:
I... Just want a bloody REASON why.

Just my opinion (not official TL opinion): Fomos owns the content. They pay employees to create the content. They do this in the hope that they'll create traffic that'll translate into profit. In the past, they didn't care about the english-speaking market, so although they didn't approve of our translations, they didn't feel a great need to stop the community from translating. But the second they opened their english section, this outlook changed. We're now competition, basically. Worse than that, really. We're established competition for their fledgling enterprise. If their content shows up here, translated as well-- or better-- than they can do themselves, they're put at a pretty big disadvantage.

Considering this, I can't blame them for wanting to keep their content to themselves.

Don't worry, TL won't stop covering the S.Korean BW scene. If you're really hungry for Fomos-brand BW content, feel free to visit Fomos Global and get it from the source.

tobi9999

United States1966 Posts

May 27 2011 23:36 GMT

#94

Wow, I hope this doesn't cause too many problems. I'm not really a fan of reading interviews, but I think it should definitely be content open to the public. I don't really see the logic behind it T_T.

Not that I cared much for Fomos before, but I've lost some respect for them just cutting off our connection to some of this esports media.

HawaiianPig

Canada5155 Posts

May 27 2011 23:38 GMT

#95

What about my profile pic?????

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trance-

United States46 Posts

May 27 2011 23:38 GMT

#96

I understand the base motivation here but that doesn't make it any less stupid. TL is basically the sole reason why a fan base outside of Korea even exists. So gimping them is going to help? Right.

Gummy

United States2180 Posts

May 27 2011 23:38 GMT

#97

This is the end of days.

CDRdude

United States5625 Posts

May 27 2011 23:40 GMT

#98

Sometimes, I'm just so baffled by an action taken by a person/orgization that I don't know how to respond. I'm not even mad or upset. I'm just so confused by this apparently illogical action that there's no room for anything else.

Ack1027

United States7873 Posts

May 27 2011 23:42 GMT

#99

Quick question:
What if translators [ looking more at chinese<>english since there are other korean sites like DES ] simply decided to link their ' interpretations ' of an article they read off fomos?

There is no copyright infringement there, right? I mean if someone links a article and says after I read this I have the following interpretations: etc...

Kind of hilarious that they do this kind of action after they blatantly copied our own translator's work. What the fuck did they have to say about that? I would really like to know what the hell they said during negotiations lol...

Shield

Bulgaria4824 Posts

May 27 2011 23:46 GMT

#100

Wow...this is just stupid.
Isn't there a way for TL to still publish interviews? For example, they may be translated with slightly different words or something.