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tiaz
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden231 Posts
July 25 2011 08:15 GMT
#541
When you have insomnia and want to read a thread for 1,5h that was started two months ago, TL and not fomos is the place to look for.

Hence TL > fomos
"When you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape." - Iloveoov
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
July 27 2011 00:48 GMT
#542
On June 07 2011 23:09 evilfatsh1t wrote:
WTF TL IS FOR PROFIT?
where does tl make their money from? -_-


TL is a profitable business, generating over 1 billion ESPORTS dollars an hour in revenue.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
July 27 2011 01:48 GMT
#543
Fomos hasn't posted any translated content in a week, is this how they intend to win over the foreign BW fanbase? =_=
When SC2 came for BW, I cried. Now LoL/Dota2 comes for SC2, and I laugh. \o/
DexVitality
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Hong Kong234 Posts
August 09 2011 10:36 GMT
#544
There are some things going on within Fomos at the moment regarding the English/Global section that has resulted in the halt of any news being posted onto the Global Section.

I do not know much right now but I will try to get more information on this. I am just one of the volunteers writing International Events for them here and there.
HkeSports: Tournament Coordinator Twitter: @DexVitalitY | Master League Protoss SC2 / Diamond LoL Player / Rank 6 HS Noobie
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
August 09 2011 10:38 GMT
#545
scumbag fomos. stop TL translating because they say they will translate, then stop translating.
lol.
Writer
DexVitality
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Hong Kong234 Posts
August 09 2011 10:42 GMT
#546
On August 09 2011 19:38 Kiante wrote:
scumbag fomos. stop TL translating because they say they will translate, then stop translating.
lol.


Well, somethings just did not go right within the organization, I cannot speak for them nor do I know much but I assume they are trying to work it out.

Them telling TL to stop translating I feel has nothing to do with themselves translating.
HkeSports: Tournament Coordinator Twitter: @DexVitalitY | Master League Protoss SC2 / Diamond LoL Player / Rank 6 HS Noobie
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 11:16:30
August 09 2011 11:16 GMT
#547
On August 09 2011 19:36 DexVitality wrote:
There are some things going on within Fomos at the moment regarding the English/Global section that has resulted in the halt of any news being posted onto the Global Section.

I do not know much right now but I will try to get more information on this. I am just one of the volunteers writing International Events for them here and there.

Okay thanks! If you have any further info and are able to tell us pls do.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
August 09 2011 11:23 GMT
#548
On August 09 2011 19:42 DexVitality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2011 19:38 Kiante wrote:
scumbag fomos. stop TL translating because they say they will translate, then stop translating.
lol.


Well, somethings just did not go right within the organization, I cannot speak for them nor do I know much but I assume they are trying to work it out.

Them telling TL to stop translating I feel has nothing to do with themselves translating.


When TL were translating you guy's kept screaming around that we are making money out of your articles fine . Than we stop translating and to show that you guys can actually translate you did a few articles and some coverage and stop half way after all you guy's don't have the sources to steal anymore isn't that right ? . Please prove me wrong because if fomos really wants to reach out to their foreign fan base they better stop slacking .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
DexVitality
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Hong Kong234 Posts
August 09 2011 19:03 GMT
#549
Ok just to clarify now that I have spoken with SuperDanielMan (Daniel Lee).

So I am sure as you all know that the Fomos international thing was all really spearheaded by SDM. I have since learned that in late July, SDM was released from his duties and both parties parted ways with mutual understanding that their views were different from each other and decided to move on.

This happened most likely when the posts stopped getting posted on the Global Section of Fomos. So as of right now, there is no activity in the Fomos Global Section until Fomos decides what to do with it, if they want to search for a replacement for SDM to run the site or to just stop the activity completely.

I just wanted to clear something up regarding the Foreign BW Community and this is just something from my view and things I have discussed with SDM on this topic.

The reason why Fomos asked TL to stop using their articles was because both parties made offers to each other and they did not come to an agreement and hence they told TL to stop using their articles. At the end of the day, Fomos is a business and it will conduct itself as so. They realized long ago that TL has taken and translated their articles without their permission, it was not until recently that they started to speak up on the matter (I don't know why they took so long but.. w/e).

Fomos telling TL to stop using their articles and themselves making their own translations had nothing to do with each other from what I know, it was purely just a copyright infringement thing.

One of the things that has led to this situation in Fomos has been their lackluster SmartPhone App which was developed and released and it failed to meet expectations which then (I assume here) caused them to rethink what direction they want to go.

I have emailed and will try to get in contact with Fomos asking them about the situation about the Global section as SDM no longer has any ties to the site so.... I guess I will fill you guys in once I get a reply? If i get a reply...
HkeSports: Tournament Coordinator Twitter: @DexVitalitY | Master League Protoss SC2 / Diamond LoL Player / Rank 6 HS Noobie
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
August 09 2011 19:05 GMT
#550
Thanks for the headsup

This could mean I will finally be allowed to spam Fomos Dong pics again.
WriterXiao8~~
Vipsanius
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands708 Posts
August 09 2011 19:12 GMT
#551
Ah, the smartphone app. A brilliant piece of failure, they had the right idea but the execution was lacking severely.
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
August 09 2011 19:28 GMT
#552
On August 10 2011 04:03 DexVitality wrote:
Ok just to clarify now that I have spoken with SuperDanielMan (Daniel Lee).

So I am sure as you all know that the Fomos international thing was all really spearheaded by SDM. I have since learned that in late July, SDM was released from his duties and both parties parted ways with mutual understanding that their views were different from each other and decided to move on.

This happened most likely when the posts stopped getting posted on the Global Section of Fomos. So as of right now, there is no activity in the Fomos Global Section until Fomos decides what to do with it, if they want to search for a replacement for SDM to run the site or to just stop the activity completely.

I just wanted to clear something up regarding the Foreign BW Community and this is just something from my view and things I have discussed with SDM on this topic.

The reason why Fomos asked TL to stop using their articles was because both parties made offers to each other and they did not come to an agreement and hence they told TL to stop using their articles. At the end of the day, Fomos is a business and it will conduct itself as so. They realized long ago that TL has taken and translated their articles without their permission, it was not until recently that they started to speak up on the matter (I don't know why they took so long but.. w/e).

Fomos telling TL to stop using their articles and themselves making their own translations had nothing to do with each other from what I know, it was purely just a copyright infringement thing.

One of the things that has led to this situation in Fomos has been their lackluster SmartPhone App which was developed and released and it failed to meet expectations which then (I assume here) caused them to rethink what direction they want to go.

I have emailed and will try to get in contact with Fomos asking them about the situation about the Global section as SDM no longer has any ties to the site so.... I guess I will fill you guys in once I get a reply? If i get a reply...


ty for your effort in explaining to us what happened.

For the people trying to blame him as if he represents fomos, don't -.-, he is like Milkis, just the messenger.
DexVitality
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Hong Kong234 Posts
August 09 2011 19:37 GMT
#553
On August 10 2011 04:28 ketomai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 04:03 DexVitality wrote:
Ok just to clarify now that I have spoken with SuperDanielMan (Daniel Lee).

So I am sure as you all know that the Fomos international thing was all really spearheaded by SDM. I have since learned that in late July, SDM was released from his duties and both parties parted ways with mutual understanding that their views were different from each other and decided to move on.

This happened most likely when the posts stopped getting posted on the Global Section of Fomos. So as of right now, there is no activity in the Fomos Global Section until Fomos decides what to do with it, if they want to search for a replacement for SDM to run the site or to just stop the activity completely.

I just wanted to clear something up regarding the Foreign BW Community and this is just something from my view and things I have discussed with SDM on this topic.

The reason why Fomos asked TL to stop using their articles was because both parties made offers to each other and they did not come to an agreement and hence they told TL to stop using their articles. At the end of the day, Fomos is a business and it will conduct itself as so. They realized long ago that TL has taken and translated their articles without their permission, it was not until recently that they started to speak up on the matter (I don't know why they took so long but.. w/e).

Fomos telling TL to stop using their articles and themselves making their own translations had nothing to do with each other from what I know, it was purely just a copyright infringement thing.

One of the things that has led to this situation in Fomos has been their lackluster SmartPhone App which was developed and released and it failed to meet expectations which then (I assume here) caused them to rethink what direction they want to go.

I have emailed and will try to get in contact with Fomos asking them about the situation about the Global section as SDM no longer has any ties to the site so.... I guess I will fill you guys in once I get a reply? If i get a reply...


ty for your effort in explaining to us what happened.

For the people trying to blame him as if he represents fomos, don't -.-, he is like Milkis, just the messenger.


No Problem. I want to try to get Fomos back up and running getting out articles just like many of you I am sure. I see the potential in what they want to do but since they are new to the whole make our own International Site thing, there are some bumps along the way and they are just running into some hurdles they probably did not expect. You can say poor planning but I am sure they are trying, I can't see them putting in the time and effort to announce this stuff and not care about it.
HkeSports: Tournament Coordinator Twitter: @DexVitalitY | Master League Protoss SC2 / Diamond LoL Player / Rank 6 HS Noobie
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2006 Posts
August 09 2011 19:42 GMT
#554
Aww, can't we at least have translations of stuff that Fomos hasn't touched in a while? It's all rather silly.
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
August 09 2011 19:59 GMT
#555
Thanks a lot for the update, DexVitality.
Too bad it didn't work out, huh?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227204&currentpage=24#471
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qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
August 09 2011 20:27 GMT
#556
I don't see why TL couldn't agree to let Fomos republish its original content, with attribution, of course. The distinction between translation and republishing is honestly not very clear to me: in either case, you're piggy-backing off someone else's work, whether you add to it or not.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
August 09 2011 21:27 GMT
#557
On August 10 2011 05:27 qrs wrote:
I don't see why TL couldn't agree to let Fomos republish its original content, with attribution, of course. The distinction between translation and republishing is honestly not very clear to me: in either case, you're piggy-backing off someone else's work, whether you add to it or not.

After reading the opening post with the explanation, this is still not clear to you? I thought it was explained in crystal clear terms.
"Alán Shore" and "August Terran" @ LoL EUW - liquidparty
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
August 09 2011 21:29 GMT
#558
Are pre-final trashtalk interviews and post final interviews for proleague only hosted on fomos?
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
August 10 2011 00:04 GMT
#559
On August 10 2011 06:27 Schnake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 05:27 qrs wrote:
I don't see why TL couldn't agree to let Fomos republish its original content, with attribution, of course. The distinction between translation and republishing is honestly not very clear to me: in either case, you're piggy-backing off someone else's work, whether you add to it or not.

After reading the opening post with the explanation, this is still not clear to you? I thought it was explained in crystal clear terms.
No, it's not. The main thing that disappoints me is that TL, a website that gets almost all of its work (including the staff writing) out of volunteers who work for free to support the community, takes such a possessive stance over sharing that work for the greater good of the community, whichever website it's read on.

Websites with far more valuable content, like Wikipedia for example, are willing to allow other sites to republish them with attribution, for the common good of everyone, but TL with this apparently petty and selfish attitude is limiting people. Granted, no one is missing out on anything desperately important, but still, I don't see the necessity.

Now, it's possible that there's an argument that I don't know about; for instance a projection that allowing Fomos to republish articles would result in a loss of needed ad revenue for Team Liquid. So I'm not accusing TL of anything; I'm just saying that the distinction is not very clear to me.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11349 Posts
August 10 2011 00:23 GMT
#560
Probably a separate issue, but I seem to recall that TL had put out a cease and desist to Fomos when Fomos was republishing articles without attributing the sources. So perhaps that's tied up in TL's no republish stance.
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