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Greatness
Profile Joined May 2011
United States450 Posts
June 06 2011 23:29 GMT
#521
"April 2010, FOMOS contacted TL on a possible partnership. FOMOS initially thought TL is a non-profit organization so it felt no need to stir up emotions by pointing out the fact that TL has been using its contents without permission. It turns our that TL is for profit. Still, FOMOS is open to it if TL were willing to sign a contract regarding the use of FOMOS contents."


Didn't TeamLiquid become insanely popular during and soon after the launch of SC2?

I doubt TL made much "profit" from their site before that happened.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
June 07 2011 00:19 GMT
#522
If all of the content that came from fomos was done by members of the community and not teamliquid staff where is the the qualm?

If it is illegal to post content and link from other parts of the internet as well? What are the legal implications of the IP of websites?
Greatness
Profile Joined May 2011
United States450 Posts
June 07 2011 01:45 GMT
#523
On June 07 2011 09:19 AttackZerg wrote:
If all of the content that came from fomos was done by members of the community and not teamliquid staff where is the the qualm?

If it is illegal to post content and link from other parts of the internet as well? What are the legal implications of the IP of websites?

From what I'm reading, Fomo's thinks that because volunteers translated Brood War articles from their site, that they think it made TeamLiquid popular and made money for themselves, and Fomos didn't like that and tried to make some negotiations with TL and TL didn't want it. What they fail to realize is, most of the visitors to this site are SC2 generation. It baffles me that Fomos wants to argue. Makes me want to never look at their site as well.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
June 07 2011 02:03 GMT
#524
Quote the interview and translate them generalized so its not one to one translation. Leave out the picture and Fomos can't complain or claim copyright on that.
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ibreakurface
Profile Joined June 2010
United States664 Posts
June 07 2011 02:16 GMT
#525
On May 28 2011 06:30 denzelz wrote:
How is NaDa's body thread going to survive?


Oh. My. God.


This could be end of the nadas body thread as we know it.
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
June 07 2011 03:05 GMT
#526
On June 07 2011 11:16 ibreakurface wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 06:30 denzelz wrote:
How is NaDa's body thread going to survive?


Oh. My. God.


This could be end of the nadas body thread as we know it.


We have the How to Draw Zero thread though.
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37013 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 05:18:33
June 07 2011 05:17 GMT
#527
Question regarding Fomos content:

If someone takes their content, translate it, but not put it up on TL, is it allowed?

For instance, what if instead of just straight up creating a thread regarding a Fomos article; someone translates the article, upload it on a diff site, and just give the link to TL. Then technically, TL is not hosting any Fomos content.

Just a thought.
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MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 08:05:20
June 07 2011 08:04 GMT
#528
Well we do source the original article so I don't see whats the big deal with it. I might be able to see them upset with the pictures but over the translated article?


On June 07 2011 14:17 Seeker wrote:
Question regarding Fomos content:

If someone takes their content, translate it, but not put it up on TL, is it allowed?

For instance, what if instead of just straight up creating a thread regarding a Fomos article; someone translates the article, upload it on a diff site, and just give the link to TL. Then technically, TL is not hosting any Fomos content.

Just a thought.

Lol. Kinda obvious TL is behind it so prob no.
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anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
June 07 2011 08:48 GMT
#529
On June 07 2011 17:04 MuffinDude wrote:
Well we do source the original article so I don't see whats the big deal with it. I might be able to see them upset with the pictures but over the translated article?


Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 14:17 Seeker wrote:
Question regarding Fomos content:

If someone takes their content, translate it, but not put it up on TL, is it allowed?

For instance, what if instead of just straight up creating a thread regarding a Fomos article; someone translates the article, upload it on a diff site, and just give the link to TL. Then technically, TL is not hosting any Fomos content.

Just a thought.

Lol. Kinda obvious TL is behind it so prob no.


not TL, the users of TL; doing this would absolve TL of any legal implication.

however, this thing isn't about legal implication since realistically fomos couldn't do shit to TL if they decided to continue using their content.

it's a matter of respectability of one's site and respect between the big sites that sustain the scene. and doing this would be the same as taking the content directly. TL is just too classy.

anyway, i stopped reading any (fomos) bw content since they pulled this shit, there's no way i'm giving them traffic now or in the future no matter how much i'm itching to read that Bisu interview.

i say boycott their stupid asses.
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Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
June 07 2011 10:00 GMT
#530
How about this:

Somebody translates and just uploads it on file hosting sites, then all TL.net uses is the link.

Gleen
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brazil707 Posts
June 07 2011 11:14 GMT
#531
On June 07 2011 19:00 Psychobabas wrote:
How about this:

Somebody translates and just uploads it on file hosting sites, then all TL.net uses is the link.


IMO, you're still breaking their copyrights. It's more or less like sharing links to illegal downloads.
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 12:21:09
June 07 2011 12:20 GMT
#532
On June 07 2011 20:14 Gleen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 19:00 Psychobabas wrote:
How about this:

Somebody translates and just uploads it on file hosting sites, then all TL.net uses is the link.


IMO, you're still breaking their copyrights. It's more or less like sharing links to illegal downloads.


Its not blanket, TL is just blacklisted so you can post it on another site and link.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8632 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 14:13:01
June 07 2011 14:09 GMT
#533
WTF TL IS FOR PROFIT?
where does tl make their money from? -_-

oh and was being allowed to upload tl english content onto their site the only thing they asked for in return?
i dont see wahts the big deal with that....as long as they give credit to tl
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
June 07 2011 15:11 GMT
#534
On June 07 2011 23:09 evilfatsh1t wrote:
WTF TL IS FOR PROFIT?
where does tl make their money from? -_-



ads probably

The TL ESPORTS staff's salary has to come from somewhere!
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37013 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 15:17:02
June 07 2011 15:16 GMT
#535
On June 07 2011 20:14 Gleen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 19:00 Psychobabas wrote:
How about this:

Somebody translates and just uploads it on file hosting sites, then all TL.net uses is the link.


IMO, you're still breaking their copyrights. It's more or less like sharing links to illegal downloads.


How about we upload it on Nevake? We don't even need to link it on TL, because a lot of ppl are aware of Nevake. We inform the users of TL of going into Nevake, then the articles will be on Nevake.

Not once, will we have to link any kind of site
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25977 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 15:41:22
June 07 2011 15:41 GMT
#536
I don't think you guys should come up with complicated processes to bypass the spirit of the agreement. Please just accept it.
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ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
June 07 2011 15:46 GMT
#537
Yep, we ll just have to accept that DES is our new bible I pains my heart to read fomos when i compare SDM's latest translation to our own Translators' version anw theres such a big discrepancy in quality.
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kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
June 07 2011 16:59 GMT
#538
Why didn't TL accept the terms of Fomos ? For me it seems that the terms proposed by TL to Fomos is not too fair, since they don't have the need to translate Eng->Kr and there's not much English content on TL to translate comparing with the amount of Kr content. I don't think allowing them to copy English translation to their site is unfair since it is obvious that they put money and effort into the original content, so when they share them to TL we should just share our product with them instead of giving them something of no interest for them.

Khassar de Templari
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
June 26 2011 00:06 GMT
#539
On June 08 2011 01:59 kamikami wrote:
Why didn't TL accept the terms of Fomos ? For me it seems that the terms proposed by TL to Fomos is not too fair, since they don't have the need to translate Eng->Kr and there's not much English content on TL to translate comparing with the amount of Kr content. I don't think allowing them to copy English translation to their site is unfair since it is obvious that they put money and effort into the original content, so when they share them to TL we should just share our product with them instead of giving them something of no interest for them.



It wanted permission to copy TL.net's original English content and republish it, unaltered and untranslated, on its own English language site.



I think this was the problem. Not the translations, all TL wanted for those was credit.
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 03:10:32
July 23 2011 03:03 GMT
#540
Can I put a smiley with the middle finger plz?

edit: for FOMOS
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