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CanucksJC
Canada1241 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
On May 28 2011 10:37 CanucksJC wrote: I dunno I think this decision hurts them more... I understand where they come from, but I don't really agree with it at the same time. hmmm. this is my analogy; TL was contracted with a korean site to translate all the featured news to korean, but fomos copy pastes and translates it too on their website. would it help expand BW community? yes. would TL and especially its partner be happy? hell no. | ||
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CanucksJC
Canada1241 Posts
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NukeTheStars
United States277 Posts
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tbrown47
United States1235 Posts
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rkffhk
474 Posts
On May 28 2011 06:06 Waxangel wrote: they recently partnered with a chinese media site to publish English content What do the Chinese care about copyright infringement? Also, if photos are straight up copyright infringement, then this site (not to mention every other site on the intertubes) is in so much deep shit. | ||
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Taekwon
United States8155 Posts
I'm actually pretty dam sure that Paul Samshit, or whatever his name is, is behind this. Call me crazy and a conspirator but I wouldn't be surprised if Paul secretly asked FOMOS to forbid using their material as a secret, backwater condition in agreeing to the IP rights for BW. In his interview he stated that he would literally kill the BW scene after all. Although it doesn't explain why DES hasn't done the same, he must've realized the majority of BW content came from FOMOS. Unfortunately, if my theory holds true, DES may or may not do the same. I'm doing my best to control my anger and prevent it form clouding my judgement but even amidst all this, it seems hard to consider otherwise. Ok, maybe it isn't but even if there were some tensions between English translations and copy pasting material on their own site, it's not at all zero sum for FOMOS. I mean, it wouldn't take a rocket scientist to put in some delay between negotiations and the banning to dispel any suspicion. In addition, without the "care" of the Korean public as Wax stated, I'm sure it was thought out. After all, FOMOS or the Korean public as a whole would've easily agreed to letting TLPD out of the loop - it doesn't hurt them as much as bowing out to another more direct concession. | ||
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LegendaryZ
United States1583 Posts
On May 28 2011 11:02 Taekwon wrote: Disclaimer, the stuff you're about to read is pretty radical sounding and is mere conjecture, if I cross the line anywhere, just tell me: I'm actually pretty dam sure that Paul Samshit, or whatever his name is, is behind this. Call me crazy and a conspirator but I wouldn't be surprised if Paul secretly asked FOMOS to forbid using their material as a secret, backwater condition in agreeing to the IP rights for BW. In his interview he stated that he would literally kill the BW scene after all. Although it doesn't explain why DES hasn't done the same, he must've realized the majority of BW content came from FOMOS. Unfortunately, if my theory holds true, DES may or may not do the same. I'm doing my best to control my anger and prevent it form clouding my judgement but even amidst all this, it seems hard to consider otherwise. Ok, maybe it isn't but even if there were some tensions between English translations and copy pasting material on their own site, it's not at all zero sum for FOMOS. I mean, it wouldn't take a rocket scientist to put in some delay between negotiations and the banning to dispel any suspicion. In addition, without the "care" of the Korean public as Wax stated, I'm sure it was thought out. After all, FOMOS or the Korean public as a whole would've easily agreed to letting TLPD out of the loop - it doesn't hurt them as much as bowing out to another more direct concession. I think you're reaching a bit too far there... | ||
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Chimpalimp
United States1135 Posts
On May 28 2011 08:00 Waxangel wrote: we've spoken with Fomos, things just didn't work out. We need KeSPA lawyers. So we can carry on as we please and about half a year later have it all dismissed. On a real note, this is rather disappointing. This more or less kills their foreign fan base, at least we can watch the starcraft streams. | ||
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Taekwon
United States8155 Posts
On May 28 2011 11:05 LegendaryZ wrote: I think you're reaching a bit too far there... It's certainly farfetched but nothing disproves it either. Wax said that Chinese media were now working with FOMOS - thus they decided to prevent TLPD from having their material. It all just seems fishy. Nothing proves the theory, but nothing disproves it either... either way, it seems nothing can be done. So I'll leave it at that. I mean no harm. | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
On May 28 2011 11:05 Chimpalimp wrote: We need KeSPA lawyers. So we can carry on as we please and about half a year later have it all dismissed. On a real note, this is rather disappointing. This more or less kills their foreign fan base, at least we can watch the starcraft streams. Don't even jinx that... | ||
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epikAnglory
United States1120 Posts
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Azriel
Mexico462 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On May 28 2011 10:53 NukeTheStars wrote: If TL didn't have ads, you could probably still post credited translations and photos here under the protection of fair use, seeing as though it benefits the public. But, ads make it copying for commercial gain, so there's not really anything anyone can do. Kind of a shame. Pretty much. As soon as you guys entered this realm, they had no option. x-x | ||
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Lokian
United States699 Posts
It's like xiaolin monks washing clothes by twisting it so much that it rips. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50600 Posts
On May 28 2011 11:12 Amaranthine wrote: So, are these people expecting us to learn korean in order to read player interviews? no they expect us to use DES which is better than fomos in most if not all situations.. | ||
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ShinySleepy
Philippines80 Posts
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Sovetsky Soyuz
Russian Federation905 Posts
Could someone start saving all Fomos stuff (esp interview and fan stuff) and archive them and post them for everyone to save | ||
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L3gendary
Canada1470 Posts
On May 28 2011 11:08 Taekwon wrote: I'm actually pretty dam sure that Paul Samshit, or whatever his name is, is behind this. .... Nothing proves the theory, but nothing disproves it either... Are you serious? If I said Al-qaeda was behind this, can you disprove that? | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On May 28 2011 10:53 NukeTheStars wrote: If TL didn't have ads, you could probably still post credited translations and photos here under the protection of fair use, seeing as though it benefits the public. But, ads make it copying for commercial gain, so there's not really anything anyone can do. Kind of a shame. Well, we'd need someone more familiar with copyright law to really be sure, but I remember this from my experiences in recovering copyrighted videos. "Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use." I'd say interviews and such are for news reporting and comment purposes, so it may be allowed. That being said, I'm not sure on the copyright laws of non-US countries. That may be a problem. | ||
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