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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
April 08 2011 12:33 GMT
#61
meh, looks mediocre at best.

MSL's map pool should have triathlon permanently in place.
POGGERS
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
April 08 2011 12:34 GMT
#62
this map is looking terrible for zerg.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
b0lt
Profile Joined March 2009
United States790 Posts
April 08 2011 12:36 GMT
#63
Every single map looks terran favored at first glance. I remember IdrA saying that battle royale (a map where flash couldn't beat oversky) was a "zerg graveyard"
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
April 08 2011 12:40 GMT
#64
and OF COURSE Bisu v Flash is on that map.. let's hope it's not T Favored..

poor bisu, always getting screwed..

Until Group D is finished i will change my sig to f... you hydra! i hope thats allowed. it's my opinion that this was one of the most despiseable moves ever in the history of the MSL Ceremony.
Bisu... ;-(
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 13:01:00
April 08 2011 12:48 GMT
#65
Dear god... long air distance(mutas inefficient), easily tankable+minable tight chokes halving the map, island expansions(difficult for zerg to protect against drops), highground nat(making midgame hydra/lurker aggression impossible)... zerg is going to be absolutely massacred here. The positioning of the island might make it work as a "haven" for pvt carrier builds though, with protoss being able to stay there for safety and strike any terran expansion with terran having trouble reacting.
On April 08 2011 14:15 ZeroChrome wrote:
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On April 08 2011 13:48 Rhaegar99 wrote:
main and nat are both on high ground. this has been the first time in a while am i right?


Empire of the Sun has both on high ground.

On April 08 2011 14:16 mnesthes wrote:
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On April 08 2011 13:48 Rhaegar99 wrote:
main and nat are both on high ground. this has been the first time in a while am i right?
There's Empire of the Sun, and Eye of the Storm, and before that there was Troy.
Except those maps have some spare highground space outside nat, this map only has room for a bit of static defense/mines making midgame aggression inefficient
On April 08 2011 12:09 jalstar wrote:
Actually reminds me of Destination in that it appears Terran-favored until you realize that Terrans would have to spread their army out over the entire map.

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On April 08 2011 12:09 hasuprotoss wrote:
I feel bad for Zerg already... Like where's the third going to be? Corner expo looks really far away and the other one right above/below your nat looks really vulnerable.


Pro Zergs already take a far third, plus you can just take the island for your fourth since other races can't mass drop.
Zerg is the disadvantaged race in drop play, that is why island maps were removed in the first place. And especially with the highground next to island expos(safe siege/mnm/templar drops ), it will be very difficult to utilize it for zergs
Aah thats the stuff..
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 08 2011 12:52 GMT
#66
more like chateau d'if right
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
buhhy
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1113 Posts
April 08 2011 13:02 GMT
#67
Lol, TL.net map discussion: every map is T favored.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
April 08 2011 13:10 GMT
#68
All maps are Terran maps until you actually play on them
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
April 08 2011 13:19 GMT
#69
oh please cut the T-is-OP-theorycrafting already...
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
April 08 2011 13:40 GMT
#70
Main's minerals are cornered -> no muta harass
2nd expansion allows turrets to be built behind the minerals -> no muta harass
2nd expansion on high ground -> Terran two base play is going to be the standard in every single TvZ
Slow drops have a very small range to work with.

I fear for the Swarm.
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
April 08 2011 13:54 GMT
#71
On April 08 2011 21:40 SkytoM wrote:
and OF COURSE Bisu v Flash is on that map.. let's hope it's not T Favored..

poor bisu, always getting screwed..

Until Group D is finished i will change my sig to f... you hydra! i hope thats allowed. it's my opinion that this was one of the most despiseable moves ever in the history of the MSL Ceremony.


settle down, there hasnt even been a game on this map yet and you're whining about bisu being the victim of map imbalance -_-
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
April 08 2011 13:54 GMT
#72
Bwahahaha, this never fails; people always say maps are T-favoured when they see them for the first time. Always. XD
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 14:00:31
April 08 2011 13:57 GMT
#73
Yeeees a new map! Looks good. Lower than normal resources for a pro-map.

On April 08 2011 21:33 konadora wrote:
meh, looks mediocre at best.

MSL's map pool should have triathlon permanently in place.

Are you kidding? There's so many different ways to play this map. Gameplay options = better than your average bear map

On April 08 2011 22:54 Holgerius wrote:
Bwahahaha, this never fails; people always say maps are T-favoured when they see them for the first time. Always. XD

People contradict each other a million times about the balance of a map. The fact of the matter is that you never know until it gets played out on TV for a year. Sometimes races even initially have trouble but then adapt.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Ubersturmfuhrer
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland206 Posts
April 08 2011 14:06 GMT
#74
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51709 Posts
April 08 2011 14:50 GMT
#75
this map is not Terran Favored until FBH beats stork on it.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
shucklesors
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore1176 Posts
April 08 2011 15:02 GMT
#76
Wait, would your 4th be horizontal from your main or vertical?
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
April 08 2011 15:08 GMT
#77
ROFL. I knew exactly what half of the post gonna be (zomg terran imba! zerg has no chance!!) and it still craks me up.

I wonder why is that though. Are people just shitty when it comes to evaluating maps or is there some undertone on hating terran in general?
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
April 08 2011 15:16 GMT
#78
ok... if only~ zerg could get the expansion early, get the island expo and the 4th next to it... then have a 5th above the fourth... then somehow retain map control and shutting down expos... they'll win every time~....

but seriously... i don't see a very viable strategy for zerg... Jaedong will just pull out with pure brilliance~
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hauton
Profile Joined March 2009
Hong Kong743 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 15:20:13
April 08 2011 15:19 GMT
#79
Immediately claim unplayed map as Zerg graveyard
Advocate keeping Triathlon, with 55.6/62.5% ZvT/ZvP winrate

LOLwut
keep it up, youll either be famous or homeless one day
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
April 08 2011 15:20 GMT
#80
On April 08 2011 22:54 Legatus Lanius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 21:40 SkytoM wrote:
and OF COURSE Bisu v Flash is on that map.. let's hope it's not T Favored..

poor bisu, always getting screwed..

Until Group D is finished i will change my sig to f... you hydra! i hope thats allowed. it's my opinion that this was one of the most despiseable moves ever in the history of the MSL Ceremony.


settle down, there hasnt even been a game on this map yet and you're whining about bisu being the victim of map imbalance -_-


I'm just acting like Bisu himself

But you're right.
Bisu... ;-(
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