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razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
November 24 2010 00:11 GMT
#21
should stick effort in there, his osl win against flash is pretty significant.
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Thorin
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
601 Posts
November 24 2010 00:53 GMT
#22
On November 24 2010 07:35 revy wrote:
Good stuff but how on earth could you leave out Boxer v Yellow. It's probably a horribly uneven head to head but its just so important.


Actually:

BoxeR's map record vs. YellOw (all competitions): 33 wins - 31 losses (51.56%)
BoxeR's map record vs. YellOw (individual competitions): 28 wins - 26 losses (51.85%)
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
November 24 2010 00:54 GMT
#23
On November 24 2010 09:53 amarillo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2010 07:35 revy wrote:
Good stuff but how on earth could you leave out Boxer v Yellow. It's probably a horribly uneven head to head but its just so important.


Actually:

BoxeR's map record vs. YellOw (all competitions): 33 wins - 31 losses (51.56%)
BoxeR's map record vs. YellOw (individual competitions): 28 wins - 26 losses (51.85%)


yea, basically boxer was owning yellow at all the "official/important" events like osl, msl and so on, while yellow was owning boxer at the "inofficial/fun" events.
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-24 00:59:09
November 24 2010 00:58 GMT
#24
Nada vs iloveoov: 6-17 (-11) (26,09%)

Rofl

Kal's stats vs JD and Flash are just fucking lol.
Jaedong vs Kal: 15-4 (+11) (78,95%)
Flash vs Kal: 8-2 (+6) (80,00%)
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Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
November 24 2010 01:00 GMT
#25
On November 24 2010 08:37 LunarDestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2010 08:35 AssiRoyal wrote:
sry i dont get it - who is bug time attacker???

ForGG. Map imba and crazy timing made 3-0 happened.

To me the understated bit is that they were teammates. We all know the dong is better, but perhaps after getting beat over and over ForGG found a chink in his armor.
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-24 01:09:13
November 24 2010 01:03 GMT
#26
I'd be interested to see Bisu and Stork's head to head record vs Kespa's Top 20, since they seem to be the ones doing best against JD/Flash.

Edit: Also, you have to keep in mind that these are results spanning an entire career. For example, if you check JD vs Stork it seems pretty even with both players trading wins and losses, but if you look at Flash vs Stork then you can see Flash took a lot of losses early in his career but has been dominating their recent encounters.
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chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2585 Posts
November 24 2010 01:04 GMT
#27
On November 24 2010 09:58 Roffles wrote:
Nada vs iloveoov: 6-17 (-11) (26,09%)

Rofl

Kal's stats vs JD and Flash are just fucking lol.
Jaedong vs Kal: 15-4 (+11) (78,95%)
Flash vs Kal: 8-2 (+6) (80,00%)


Lololololololol. i think Kal is a prime example of a player that beats lesser players easily but crumbles to better ones. Still don't really get the reason why though? - more like playstyle or more due to nerves?
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Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
November 24 2010 01:07 GMT
#28
On November 24 2010 10:04 chongu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2010 09:58 Roffles wrote:
Nada vs iloveoov: 6-17 (-11) (26,09%)

Rofl

Kal's stats vs JD and Flash are just fucking lol.
Jaedong vs Kal: 15-4 (+11) (78,95%)
Flash vs Kal: 8-2 (+6) (80,00%)


Lololololololol. i think Kal is a prime example of a player that beats lesser players easily but crumbles to better ones. Still don't really get the reason why though? - more like playstyle or more due to nerves?



kal is a good but not oustanding player that is very consistent. bisu and stork both are much more inconsistent than kal, but they are both able to elevate their play to levels which are inaccessible for kal, but necessary to take down players like flash or jd.

its the same thing with leta or sea: they consistently beat lesser players because of few fluctuations in their form, but their top play isnt strong enough to compete with monster players.
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Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-24 01:26:57
November 24 2010 01:25 GMT
#29
On November 24 2010 08:38 seRapH wrote:
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On November 24 2010 08:35 AssiRoyal wrote:
sry i dont get it - who is bug time attacker???

He won the Arena MSL finals 3-0 vs Jaedong. This is when Jaedong was already good.

Were they on the same team back then?

I'm surprised Bisu is holding up vs. Flash so well. Maybe it was during the time when Flash wasn't as solid as he is today

Thanks for the great post!
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Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
November 24 2010 01:26 GMT
#30
I think the Flash has only one losing record to a player - Skyhigh. Granted he isn't top 20 but his TvT is simply surreal.
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
November 24 2010 01:29 GMT
#31
On November 24 2010 10:25 Emon_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2010 08:38 seRapH wrote:
On November 24 2010 08:35 AssiRoyal wrote:
sry i dont get it - who is bug time attacker???

He won the Arena MSL finals 3-0 vs Jaedong. This is when Jaedong was already good.

Were they on the same team back then?

I'm surprised Bisu is holding up vs. Flash so well. Maybe it was during the time when Flash wasn't as solid as he is today

Thanks for the great post!

Yes they were. Which made it so much funnier.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
November 24 2010 01:34 GMT
#32
Woah wtf, forgg is 4-1 vs the dong?
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zenMaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada761 Posts
November 24 2010 02:37 GMT
#33
Dong would completely molest forGG if they were ever to play now.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 24 2010 02:47 GMT
#34
On November 24 2010 11:37 zenMaster wrote:
Dong would completely molest forGG if they were ever to play now.

Forgg molested JD last Proleague season. That's not too far back in time.
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Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-24 02:57:22
November 24 2010 02:56 GMT
#35
Jaedong -1 vs Bisu. mhm. that's right.

Oov +11 Nada, damn.

KTY
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
November 24 2010 03:07 GMT
#36
I wish forgg would return to his arena msl form....
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
November 24 2010 03:08 GMT
#37
On November 24 2010 11:47 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2010 11:37 zenMaster wrote:
Dong would completely molest forGG if they were ever to play now.

Forgg molested JD last Proleague season. That's not too far back in time.


I remember someone on TL saying that ForGG's style counters JD's style perfectly. I think its true, before JD would go into something REALLY aggressive but nowadays, he'll attempt to rush thing to the hive tech rather than keep his aggression. ForGG's timing push is the exact style that's needed to take down the Dong's current style. I'll even put more money on ForGG in beating Jaedong more than Flash.
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Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
November 24 2010 03:34 GMT
#38
On November 24 2010 10:26 Taekwon wrote:
I think the Flash has only one losing record to a player - Skyhigh. Granted he isn't top 20 but his TvT is simply surreal.



nope, flash also has a losing record against yarnc, 3-4.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
November 24 2010 03:45 GMT
#39
On November 24 2010 08:26 2Pacalypse- wrote:
That Bonjwas list is missing some green color :/


Bonjwa list need KTSHIN!
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kassi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States290 Posts
November 24 2010 07:10 GMT
#40
Wow, amazing list. Thanks OP =) On a side note, I'm surprised Top 20 has so many protosses (in a good way). It's split 8T, 5Z, 7P. It's more even than I thought.

It's scary seeing how dominant Flash really is though. Only Jaedong, Bisu, Calm, and Best are in 50s against him. With Jaedong you see he has a winning record but by less of a percentage on average. And wow, Pure is 0-7 for Flashdong combined (maybe that's why he did nothing for my fantasy team last season...)
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