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gulati
United States2241 Posts
In reference to the original topic; if you want your dosage of Brood War, look to South Korea for it  they do not get won-over by graphics, and they will be playing Brood War for years to come. Flash and Jaedong are proof that Brood War has something that no other game can ever deliver. | ||
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
i'll kick their ass and show off :D | ||
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On August 23 2010 06:29 cz wrote: Have you no sense of decency sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency? I still don't know which game has the best future from the point of view of a spectator, but as far as playing the games? Starcraft 2 is not an easier game (by its very definition, it can't be; in player vs. player combat, difficulty depends on the skill of your opponent), but it's certainly more user-friendly, which I appreciate greatly. | ||
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Garaman
United States556 Posts
i dont have sc2, no interest pm to kyungrim if you want to plaay | ||
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Garaman
United States556 Posts
On August 23 2010 11:28 Zato-1 wrote: I still don't know which game has the best future from the point of view of a spectator, but as far as playing the games? Starcraft 2 is not an easier game (by its very definition, it can't be; in player vs. player combat, difficulty depends on the skill of your opponent), but it's certainly more user-friendly, which I appreciate greatly. sure sc2 is easier. just got MM push early for the massive dmg or insta gg. i know the game isnt balanced yet, but right now? be terran and your golden User was warned for this post | ||
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biarecare
United States76 Posts
Not going to go hardcore on it, since SC2 has some serious balance issues. | ||
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On August 23 2010 11:51 Garaman wrote: sure sc2 is easier. just got MM push early for the massive dmg or insta gg. i know the game isnt balanced yet, but right now? be terran and your golden [begin uninformed stereotype]I hear you can also win easy in BW, just pick Protoss and 1a2a3a. [/end uninformed stereotype] | ||
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Emon_
3925 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On August 23 2010 23:11 Zato-1 wrote: [begin uninformed stereotype]I hear you can also win easy in BW, just pick Protoss and 1a2a3a. [/end uninformed stereotype] If one game is more imbalanced in certain matchups then the other then it is by definition easier. If Terran had a build order, for some reason, that was unbeatable then it would be an easier game in multiplayer. That's stretching the idea to its logical extreme but you get what I'm saying. | ||
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
On August 23 2010 23:16 Emon_ wrote: This whole IEM SC2 business makes the BW part of TL feel like a ghost town. Tumbleweed and all. Maybe its because of the off season in Korea Off season? On the contrary its culmination of the BW season! btw I just recently noticed that team logos are shown only in BW section ^^ | ||
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On August 23 2010 23:22 TwoToneTerran wrote: If one game is more imbalanced in certain matchups then the other then it is by definition easier. If Terran had a build order, for some reason, that was unbeatable then it would be an easier game in multiplayer. That's stretching the idea to its logical extreme but you get what I'm saying. Yeah, my problem is with all the assumptions laced into that argument. If Zerg fits my playstyle the best, should I just switch to Terran in SC2 because they're better, even if my actual skill level with Terran is lower? If the answer is yes, then you'll just end up with a TvT mirrorfest, where balance is forcibly attained. Imbalanced matchups go both ways- one side is favored, while the counterpart needs a positive skill differential to compensate the innate racial imbalance. By this token, you could argue that SC2 is easier than BW if you're a Terran player, but SC2 is harder than BW if you're a Zerg player- hardly conclusive that SC2 is an easier game overall. Another reason SC2 seems easier is because the overall skill level on Battle.net 2.0 is way lower than what you'd get in iCCup. If you've played a good deal of Brood Wars, you're almost guaranteed a spot in the Diamond league; If you're a regular gamer but don't play RTS games that much, you can still probably make Platinum. But as long as you're playing opponents of similar skill level, SC2 should be just as competitive and 'difficult' to win in as BW. | ||
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
On August 23 2010 23:22 TwoToneTerran wrote: If one game is more imbalanced in certain matchups then the other then it is by definition easier. If Terran had a build order, for some reason, that was unbeatable then it would be an easier game in multiplayer. That's stretching the idea to its logical extreme but you get what I'm saying. + speaking in relative terms it is easier given influx of newbies in great masses. | ||
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911insidejob
United States39 Posts
User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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zenMaster
Canada761 Posts
On August 24 2010 00:20 911insidejob wrote: yeah BW is dying i think. The problem is that it was an imba game, terran was the weakest race with the lowest win percentage. now in sc2 the game is actually balanced so why continue to play an imba game as BW is? Troll. Tanks are imba. | ||
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dangots0ul
United States919 Posts
=/ Since sc2, TL has not been what it use to be. | ||
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blahman3344
United States2015 Posts
On August 24 2010 00:20 911insidejob wrote: yeah BW is dying i think. The problem is that it was an imba game, terran was the weakest race with the lowest win percentage. now in sc2 the game is actually balanced so why continue to play an imba game as BW is? your user name makes that statement that much less believable. But yeah on topic: I think broodwar is gonna last until the end of the 2010-2011 proleague season before we start seeing more dramatic drops in BW players, because once the pro scene for BW is finished, I doubt that people will stay with BW for too long. =\ | ||
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daz
Canada643 Posts
On August 23 2010 11:28 Zato-1 wrote: I still don't know which game has the best future from the point of view of a spectator, but as far as playing the games? Starcraft 2 is not an easier game (by its very definition, it can't be; in player vs. player combat, difficulty depends on the skill of your opponent), but it's certainly more user-friendly, which I appreciate greatly. Sc2 right now is way easier for new and shitty players then sc1. In sc2 you can compete with decent players after having played only a couple weeks, where in bw it would take like 6 months to a year. | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
On August 23 2010 23:11 Zato-1 wrote: [begin uninformed stereotype]I hear you can also win easy in BW, just pick Protoss and 1a2a3a. [/end uninformed stereotype] that is uninformed, cus the protoss 1a2a3a thing has nothing to do with winning I don't think korea will switch until sc2 is much better than what it is right now. BW is a massively better game for watching given that it's the better game, has the better players and the better fights. | ||
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kidcrash
United States624 Posts
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sAAvior
Poland248 Posts
I am not usre if it's possible for sc2 to become even comparable game. It has design flaws from viewer point of view even if it's one day becomes more fun to play it probably won't make it bigtime in tv like BW. Base of people interested in watching BW will shrink though as every new player/potential fan of esports will go to sc2 and don't bother learning "old game". I think Blizzard screw esports up. I hope one day open source game suitable for esports will be made. Only this guarantee no company ruins esports and community with theirs ambitions.  | ||
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