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Skyze
Canada2324 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17238 Posts
On August 24 2010 07:48 Skyze wrote: The only reason you cant play "defensive" in WC3 is because you need your hero levels high, meaning you HAVE to creep. If you dont creep, you get outcreeped and lose, similar to if you play too defensive in BW, they will outexpand you. You don't always need your hero levels high (human comes to mind again), you can also get exp from killing enemy units instead of creeping (but it's not a problem for human players, who can creep while putting up a defensive game) and overwhelming early battles with superior units or just greater numbers. | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
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sCCrooked
Korea (South)1306 Posts
On August 24 2010 11:24 deL wrote: For D+ players SC2 is more fun to play because you're actually in the top few players haha, but BW remains better to watch - I think people are just still caught up in the 'new game' hype as well as seeing all their favourite top foreign players that they can cheer for. This is correct. I still have wishes to have SC2 become a great and big E-Sport like its predecessor, but there's no debating the current situation. b'-')b | ||
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tarpman
Canada718 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On August 24 2010 11:24 deL wrote: For D+ players SC2 is more fun to play because you're actually in the top few players haha, but BW remains better to watch - I think people are just still caught up in the 'new game' hype as well as seeing all their favourite top foreign players that they can cheer for. This is true for me but there's still a huge skill gap between low/mid diamond and high diamond, which is where the "real" top players are. | ||
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red_hq
Canada450 Posts
On August 24 2010 11:24 deL wrote: For D+ players SC2 is more fun to play because you're actually in the top few players haha, but BW remains better to watch - I think people are just still caught up in the 'new game' hype as well as seeing all their favourite top foreign players that they can cheer for. I actually prefer watching SC2 over BW I think the more you play a game the more relatable the replays or live streams your are watching become. As soon as I stopped playing BW for SC2 Bw became more and more boring while SC2 became better and better. They're still both amazing. | ||
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JIJIyO
Canada1957 Posts
On August 24 2010 06:19 Ideas wrote: yea the "pro" scene (not sure if we should call it pro since im not sure how many of these guys are professionals outside of idra (aka it's their main source of income) of SC2 is pretty garbage to me right now. most pro players just seem to do really cheesy all-ins and play just absolutely retarded. If even I can see how stupid a lot of the decisions these players make are, then the pro scene sucks. maybe in a year it will be better but I think the top SC2 player right now is only kinda better than me. Like I think I can take a few games off of the top SC2 player right now. that's a horrible pro scene. Haha I thought it was just myself being delusional, but I wanted to sell out and see if I could cash in on SC2. Still probably me being delusional, but still it's fun to think about. Let's go make a proteam yo~ haha. And the main thing I hate in SC2 is blob vs blob for sure. | ||
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faction123
Australia949 Posts
On August 24 2010 11:24 deL wrote: For D+ players SC2 is more fun to play because you're actually in the top few players haha, but BW remains better to watch - I think people are just still caught up in the 'new game' hype as well as seeing all their favourite top foreign players that they can cheer for. I dunno, i'm one of those shitty D+ players but i'd still much rather play BW against someone my skill level than SC2. It's just impossible to load up ICCUP and get a game against someone who isn't way better/worse than me. SC2s matchmaking is far more convinient. | ||
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Servius_Fulvius
United States947 Posts
On August 24 2010 14:31 faction123 wrote: I dunno, i'm one of those shitty D+ players but i'd still much rather play BW against someone my skill level than SC2. It's just impossible to load up ICCUP and get a game against someone who isn't way better/worse than me. SC2s matchmaking is far more convinient. The state of the D ladder has indeed gotten worse for those of us still sticking around. That's the half-empty viewpoint at least. Looking at it the other way, you have plenty more opportunities to learn by playing people far better than yourself. The kind of practice you can get as a D player right now is FAR better in quality than it was before the beta. The problem then is once you become a C-/C player it's a LOT harder to surmount higher skill gaps since the best practice is playing SC2. Personally, SC2 is growing one me. I've been going through the campaign both loving and hating certain features. Overall, I'm glad I gave the game a shot. At the rate I'm going I'll play my placement games around the weekend and see if this barely-D+ zerg isn't platinum material. I gotta admit - figuring out new strategies on a new platform is exciting. I wonder how long this will hold up. Still, I always have broodwar to return to, and I plan on seeing it regularly! | ||
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ilj.psa
Peru3081 Posts
On August 24 2010 14:19 JIJIyO wrote: And the main thing I hate in SC2 is blob vs blob for sure. thats the way i see it, as an spectator you can't appreciate micro. | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
Like I have reps vs Upmagic, July, Grape, Firefist, Stats, Saint, Light and more. I ask cuz it'll take a couple hours of work going through everything and I don't want to waste time if nobody would care. | ||
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Ideas
United States8082 Posts
On August 24 2010 14:31 faction123 wrote: I dunno, i'm one of those shitty D+ players but i'd still much rather play BW against someone my skill level than SC2. It's just impossible to load up ICCUP and get a game against someone who isn't way better/worse than me. SC2s matchmaking is far more convinient. I'm only C- but BW is a lot more fun for me to play. In SC2 I had about a 60+ percent winrate, but BW it's about 35%. losing is what usually motivates me to keep playing lol. the game is just a lot more fun if you're always feeling behind and pressed (to me at least). I hated being matched up with people worse than me all the time in SC2. | ||
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yelps
United States12 Posts
On August 24 2010 14:45 Servius_Fulvius wrote: The state of the D ladder has indeed gotten worse for those of us still sticking around. That's the half-empty viewpoint at least. Looking at it the other way, you have plenty more opportunities to learn by playing people far better than yourself. The kind of practice you can get as a D player right now is FAR better in quality than it was before the beta. The problem then is once you become a C-/C player it's a LOT harder to surmount higher skill gaps since the best practice is playing SC2. Personally, SC2 is growing one me. I've been going through the campaign both loving and hating certain features. Overall, I'm glad I gave the game a shot. At the rate I'm going I'll play my placement games around the weekend and see if this barely-D+ zerg isn't platinum material. I gotta admit - figuring out new strategies on a new platform is exciting. I wonder how long this will hold up. Still, I always have broodwar to return to, and I plan on seeing it regularly! You'll probably place in diamond. Everyone I know who was at least D+ did. | ||
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FraCuS
United States1072 Posts
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Wonders
Australia753 Posts
On August 25 2010 08:01 LuckyFool wrote: I'm about to reformat my bw pc and I won't be playing anymore. But I could go through and get a rep pack of maybe 100+ games of myself vs top foreigners and progamers on ladder on iccup (I was terran and B-/B level) if anyone still plays or thinks they would be interested or trying to improve I guess I might do that. Like I have reps vs Upmagic, July, Grape, Firefist, Stats, Saint, Light and more. I ask cuz it'll take a couple hours of work going through everything and I don't want to waste time if nobody would care. Please post the games against progamers! | ||
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Prozen
United States338 Posts
On August 25 2010 08:01 LuckyFool wrote: I'm about to reformat my bw pc and I won't be playing anymore. But I could go through and get a rep pack of maybe 100+ games of myself vs top foreigners and progamers on ladder on iccup (I was terran and B-/B level) if anyone still plays or thinks they would be interested or trying to improve I guess I might do that. Like I have reps vs Upmagic, July, Grape, Firefist, Stats, Saint, Light and more. I ask cuz it'll take a couple hours of work going through everything and I don't want to waste time if nobody would care. No......  + Show Spoiler + Those replays would be nice though :D. You know you'll always have a heart for Brood War <3 | ||
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Cofo
United States1388 Posts
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angerpowered
United States56 Posts
Anyway, I'm having lots of fun with SC2 and though I've played shooters (namely CS) in leagues like CAL (got to im) nothing quite feels as good as finishing a solid game of SC2 sweating and shaking from the adrenaline (with my measly 100 apm). I'm only in gold league and from what I imagine the satisfaction of winning a game is only greater in BW. Anyway, just a casual RTSers 2c :D | ||
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AleC
332 Posts
On August 25 2010 08:01 LuckyFool wrote: I'm about to reformat my bw pc and I won't be playing anymore. But I could go through and get a rep pack of maybe 100+ games of myself vs top foreigners and progamers on ladder on iccup (I was terran and B-/B level) if anyone still plays or thinks they would be interested or trying to improve I guess I might do that. Like I have reps vs Upmagic, July, Grape, Firefist, Stats, Saint, Light and more. I ask cuz it'll take a couple hours of work going through everything and I don't want to waste time if nobody would care. Wow if those are against the actual players I'd really appreciate those reps. It's hard enough as is to find ANY replay with a progamer in it so I'm sure a lot of people would care for those reps.  | ||
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