EPTKeycraft hack or not? - Page 3
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STIMEY d okgm fish
Canada6140 Posts
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Oxygen
Canada3581 Posts
..and then they could possibly include all those stuff that w3 has taken from bw (auto-cloning, multiple buildings @ 1 hotkey, etc..) Waaaaaaaaait. You want that to be implemented into BW? Are you insane? EDIT: Of course it's a third party program. Consider it a hack. I'm just saying, keep it all in perspective. | ||
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NoNameLoser
United States1508 Posts
And for all those who still think blizzard didnt mean it in the game play = unfair, blizzard fired the team that created SC a few years ago, they dont even give a fuck and IMO BW balance is just pure luck or some genious' work who we never heard about, nothing to do with blizzard. | ||
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Radiohead
Norway201 Posts
it's okay to use it in warcraft because that game isnt based on skills anyway. Hand technique is an important part of bw, and this program takes it away =[ i consider it a cheat. | ||
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Sirakor
Great Britain455 Posts
On April 27 2004 07:17 Basic! wrote: i'd use it more for like changing "z" for zealot cause it gets kinda hard when you're using 5-9 gates, z just seems so far causing me to misclick :[ install a german keyboard layout. apart from special ascii chars, all chars are in the same place except X <-> Y, which should make ur zeal building much easier. In Windope you can use Shift+alt to switch between keyboard layouts u have currently installed. As for the rest of you... does anyone actually read my posts? Whoever has a problem with programs such as keycraft, please answer the following questions: 1. would using different regional settings on your comp (such as timezone and keyboard settings) be cheating? (ROFLMAO to whoever answers this with yes...) 2. if u said 'no' to 1., why the fuck would anyone be cheating who uses a program that does exactly the same thing as the regional options menue in ur OS does? 3. do you really think anyone who has been unable to learn some hotkeys and press the right key during the last SIX years has any chance of ever becoming good at this game? 4. do you think ppl who have played this game for a long time and gotten used to their hotkeys would go through the trouble of learning a new system? Unless u can provide some sensible answers to these, stfu and go whine somewhere else... | ||
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luminosity_
Canada378 Posts
"we want w8 with publication till it is not considered as hack.." Spends so much time in making the program, but then waits for community input before releasing it.  | ||
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Sadist
United States7328 Posts
On April 27 2004 07:58 Radiohead wrote: this program destroys the technical aspect of bw :\\ it's okay to use it in warcraft because that game isnt based on skills anyway. Hand technique is an important part of bw, and this program takes it away =[ i consider it a cheat. hand technique, lol. Letting someone change keys is no problem, if they use it online and cant use it at a lan big deal, sucks for them they'll be used to their modified hotkeys and will struggle to get used to their original ones. Its not cheating ;\ so long as its the exact same keys just in different places. Anyone who says it gives someone an unfair advantage online is retarded, so you have to reach over to touch the P key big deal. Odds are people who have been playing long enough and are good enough wont bother using this, all this does is help newbies out who dislike the hotkey layout, and if they go to a LAN and cant use it, who cares | ||
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Sadist
United States7328 Posts
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Excalibur_Z
United States12256 Posts
That said, I do think this is a "hostile" third-party program, and the reason is this. It is not readily accessible to everyone. In all the examples people have given, such as changing action keys in Quake, modifying hotkeys in War3, that's all fine because it can be done with the game. Changing action keys in Quake is built right into the interface, and modifying hotkeys in War3 is done by changing a text file which Blizzard has said they support. However until something this simple is added to Starcraft, it's not supported by Blizzard, and it remains a third-party program. While I don't really have a problem with it as long as everyone is playing on equal footing, don't be surprised if your account is deleted while using this program. | ||
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Sirakor
Great Britain455 Posts
On April 27 2004 08:08 Sadist wrote: oh and i always wondered, since apparently there are versions of starcraft in different languages, or like keyboards in different languages or something, at wcg do you just bring all your drivers or something and install all your stuff? or if there are no lets say "German" versions of BW in the german language, would you have to play with the english keys at wcg in korea? no u dont. players are allowed to bring their native keyboards and use their native keyboard layout. | ||
Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
On April 27 2004 06:37 Sirakor wrote: u suggesting that people should be forced to play the game with an english keyboard layout even though they might eg be used to having a dutch one? simply changing the keyboard layout in the regional settings of your OS will 'remap' keys, ie hotkeys will be the same, but the key is in a different place. That is perfectly legitimate, so I dont see why another way of remapping it would make any difference whatsoever. Plus... if after 6yrs anyone is still too retarded to find and press a specific key on their keyboard, then they will suck at BW, no matter how many keys they remap... Stop using Holland as an example. We use internation keyboards and English BW :p Use Germany instead, they have everything synchronized (which sucks donkeydick). When you have a German in your f list it will say: "Ihr freund xxxxx hat battle.net verlassen" or whatever lolz | ||
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Resaca
Spain29 Posts
keys,etc,all differents ,why i cant have my own keys? It isnt hack it only is other help how MX logitech mouses ,keyboard for BW,icemat ,etc... If i go to WCG ,then i need install spanish BW ,but if i play with my keys i only need install file patch_rt.mpq (1Mb) & local.dll (48KB) ,what is the problem? Who know it? . Lasgo can to make tutorial about how play with own keys in lan tournaments in program help. Then lasgo u can to make keycraft for all languages ,i think it is very easy . With program WinMPQ.exe u can extract all files stat_txt.tbl ID 0 =Eng ID 1034 = Spanish ID 1031 = Germany ID 1036 = French ID 1040 = Italian ID 1041 = Portugal Then u have all information for make in all languages ,if u want help i can to make it for spanish keys i think i have all keys pos in memory then in file it is = only add and subtract , it if u extract file stat_txt.tbl of patch_rt.mpq and modify it i dont know how work u program but think do it. | ||
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Sirakor
Great Britain455 Posts
french: ![[image loading]](http://www.goucher.edu/library/decker/helpfiles/images/FrenchKeyLower.jpg) slovenian: ![[image loading]](http://www.hermessoft.com/newproject/keyboards/kbd/sloveni1.gif) and many more... or write ur own... thats perfectly legit, does not change ANYTHING within sc at all... just like using a different mouse or a bigger screen. hey thats a cool idea... I want everyone to be banned for cheating who has a bigger screen than me. Having a bigger screen makes micro easier coz units are bigger, so thats an unfair advantage. Ban them all! | ||
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ObsoleteLogic
United States3676 Posts
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Arbiter[frolix]
United Kingdom2674 Posts
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Louder
United States2276 Posts
On April 27 2004 06:41 GroT wrote: it's not cheating cause everyone can benefit from it? everyone can benefit from maphack too changing your keys make the game less challenging and gives you an unfair advantage over someone who doesn't, that's why it's a cheat according to me you could start argueing that having a better mouse than your opponent gives you an unfair advantage over him too, but that's just lacking of common sense Well, if you were going to make that argument work, you would first have to prove that all races are even on hotkey placement, which they most certainly are not. Protoss has a huge disadvantage with P for pylon and probe being on the far right side of the keyboard (English KB, anyway). Terran has to reach across the board to hit I for mines, Zerg has to reach over for O. Not to mention 7-0 hotkeys are a bitch to hit when you're trying to quickly macro. Note the layout of the StarKey board's numbers =\ Far more ergonomic. Customizing your keyboard settings is no different than customizing your mouse or display settings =\ You cannot effectively argue that it is, because there is nothing to found the argument. | ||
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NerO
United States2071 Posts
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BumpOnaLog
Canada318 Posts
hotkey from s to c. omg i need 12 hydras 5ssh 6ssh 7ssh 8ssh 9ssh woot mass scourge!!! | ||
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CuddlyCuteKitten
Sweden2891 Posts
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Nihil_isT
Czech Republic125 Posts
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