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On April 27 2004 09:02 BumpOnaLog wrote: If this is allowed in lans, i would change the damn scourge production hotkey from s to c.
omg i need 12 hydras 5ssh 6ssh 7ssh 8ssh 9ssh
woot mass scourge!!!
haha that's so common: when im waiting for a single larva from my 1 of 2 hats in ZvZ to build two lings for quick and fatal defense. press sss several times because im nervous and boom larva comes out and i get two scourge instead! yeeei i can kill his ovie and loose drones -__-; big deal...
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On April 27 2004 09:21 Nihil_isT wrote: I would consider hack only the program where you could programme single button to do multiple actions....I don't mind only changing hotkeys...
It's basically the same thing. I don't remember anything in the EULA specifing how you could and could not change your keys.
Oh, and btw I just realised that it's not a 3rd party program because it doesn't work in conjuction with SC, it just recodes one of it's files. Windows can do exactly the same thing, and I think we can all agree that Blizzard allows *that*.
And I don't see how this would affect a LAN. If your paying and they don't let you play just sue their ass and you'll get at least as much as the prize money anway.
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Bw loader NO-CD is a third party program ,then it is hack ? Ilegal Hacks is only programs for cheat ,and configure u own keys no is cheat.
BW is strategy game ,keys no affect strategy in game then no cheat .
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On April 27 2004 08:08 Sadist wrote: or if there are no lets say "German" versions of BW in the german language, would you have to play with the english keys at wcg in korea?
thats whats happening the last years if u played some game in your foreign version, noone at wcg gave a shit. only english/international versions there (thats the reason y wcg attendes have to be older than 16 to compete in cs and ut)
On April 27 2004 08:11 Sirakor wrote: no u dont. players are allowed to bring their native keyboards and use their native keyboard layout.
sure u can, but u have to press p for a probe in bw instead of s for "sonde" in the german version. a friend of mine was in that position, it suck that u cant remap ur keyboard in that situation
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i wouldnt use it because if u get used to it and u goto lan its gunna be diff so ill stay the way the game is no change OO;;
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On April 27 2004 09:25 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote: Oh, and btw I just realised that it's not a 3rd party program because it doesn't work in conjuction with SC, it just recodes one of it's files. Windows can do exactly the same thing, and I think we can all agree that Blizzard allows *that*.
a program is considered 3rd party if it affects the basic game files in
ANY WAY.
so if u take the editor and would code the changes for your own, the editor would be considered as a 3rd party program, sind u
ARE NOT ALLOWED
to alter the game code on the hd OR the memors, once its loaded. even mpq browsers are 3rd party programs, but they cant be detected unless u change something. replay browsers and other replay related stuff arent 3rd party, since replays are NOT basic game files (since they are only files generated by the game itself).
technically lasgos observer pack is a 3rd party program.
but let me tell u 1 thing
I REALLY DONT CARE ABOUT THAT DAMN "IS IT HACK OR NOT?" DISCUSSION!
thats so childish .... really. tl.net is really grate, but even here some ppl think progaming is their destiny (in fact, none of the ppl whining about it would ever win the slighest money prize in bw :/ )
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are there any koreans, who saw progamers playing? In vod i remember showing xellos fast hand. It was TvZ and he never bring hand to 'm' hotkey.. btw, not everyone plays six years bw, so such arguments, as 'if u have not learned hotkeys six years... ' makes no sense..
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Vatican City State593 Posts
he probably uses his thumb. boxer does it this way.
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On April 27 2004 10:37 T_T wrote: he probably uses his thumb. boxer does it this way.
what finger did u use for m? lift the right hand off the mouse and do it with it?
-_-
i also use the thumb for m ...
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Canada3953 Posts
I want that Starkey thing, it looks cool
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On April 27 2004 08:38 HnR)Louder wrote: Show nested quote +On April 27 2004 06:41 GroT wrote: it's not cheating cause everyone can benefit from it?
everyone can benefit from maphack too
changing your keys make the game less challenging and gives you an unfair advantage over someone who doesn't, that's why it's a cheat according to me
you could start argueing that having a better mouse than your opponent gives you an unfair advantage over him too, but that's just lacking of common sense Well, if you were going to make that argument work, you would first have to prove that all races are even on hotkey placement, which they most certainly are not. Protoss has a huge disadvantage with P for pylon and probe being on the far right side of the keyboard (English KB, anyway). Terran has to reach across the board to hit I for mines, Zerg has to reach over for O. Not to mention 7-0 hotkeys are a bitch to hit when you're trying to quickly macro. Note the layout of the StarKey board's numbers =\ Far more ergonomic. Customizing your keyboard settings is no different than customizing your mouse or display settings =\ You cannot effectively argue that it is, because there is nothing to found the argument.
you make a very solid case, well done
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Lasgo release the program ^^ you will never make everyone happy, there's no point in trying
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Afcourse it's not a hack!!! Can't weit till it's realesed Gj guys
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just make a poll here on tl.net, scgamers and wgt and see what the community decides, cause in the end lan tourneys adapt their rules to the common gaming styles...
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On April 27 2004 10:56 ZorAptoR wrote: just make a poll here on tl.net, scgamers and wgt and see what the community decides, cause in the end lan tourneys adapt their rules to the common gaming styles...
except wcg
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not a hack lolz
id probably not use it because of needing to adjust to something new but id not mind it being used by an opponent
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- It is hack if i adapt my PSX controler to my PC to play fifa2004? (i have done it)
- It is hack than Elky play with sunglasses?
- It is hack if i change my keys in SC?? OF CORSE NOT! Let's see... if the game doesn't have that option... but you find a config.ini that you can edit... C'MON! everybody would edit that file to make the game more confortable.
I wouldnt use it, becouse i'm already used to the original keys... but i don't have any problem if some oponent like to use it. I like to configure my own controls for almost every game... SF, MK, KOF, and belive me... if i could change the keys years ago when i was starting to play sc... i would done it.
I don't fucking care if it's a 3rd party program, don't give the oponent any advantage, only comodity. I'm pretty confortable with the original keys... so i don't mind if you use it or not. Also, i think it's great and a big option that i would like it to have when i started to play...
Sorry for my sorry english... ^^
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