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ram
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Lithuania602 Posts
April 27 2004 00:24 GMT
#61
On April 27 2004 09:02 BumpOnaLog wrote:
If this is allowed in lans, i would change the damn scourge production
hotkey from s to c.

omg i need 12 hydras
5ssh
6ssh
7ssh
8ssh
9ssh

woot mass scourge!!!


haha that's so common:
when im waiting for a single larva from my 1 of 2 hats in ZvZ to build two lings for quick and fatal defense. press sss several times because im nervous and boom larva comes out and i get two scourge instead! yeeei i can kill his ovie and loose drones -__-; big deal...
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2649 Posts
April 27 2004 00:25 GMT
#62
On April 27 2004 09:21 Nihil_isT wrote:
I would consider hack only the program where you could programme single button to do multiple actions....I don't mind only changing hotkeys...


It's basically the same thing. I don't remember anything in the EULA specifing how you could and could not change your keys.

Oh, and btw I just realised that it's not a 3rd party program because it doesn't work in conjuction with SC, it just recodes one of it's files. Windows can do exactly the same thing, and I think we can all agree that Blizzard allows *that*.

And I don't see how this would affect a LAN. If your paying and they don't let you play just sue their ass and you'll get at least as much as the prize money anway.
waaaaaaaaaaaooooow - Felicia, SPF2:T
Honk2000
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany698 Posts
April 27 2004 00:54 GMT
#63
release it
Resaca
Profile Joined April 2003
Spain29 Posts
April 27 2004 01:03 GMT
#64
Bw loader NO-CD is a third party program ,then it is hack ?
Ilegal Hacks is only programs for cheat ,and configure u own keys no is cheat.

BW is strategy game ,keys no affect strategy in game then no cheat .
jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
April 27 2004 01:12 GMT
#65
On April 27 2004 08:08 Sadist wrote:
or if there are no lets say "German" versions of BW in the german language, would you have to play with the english keys at wcg in korea?


thats whats happening the last years
if u played some game in your foreign version, noone at wcg gave a shit.
only english/international versions there (thats the reason y wcg attendes have to be older than 16 to compete in cs and ut)

On April 27 2004 08:11 Sirakor wrote:
no u dont. players are allowed to bring their native keyboards and use their native keyboard layout.


sure u can, but u have to press p for a probe in bw instead of s for "sonde" in the german version.
a friend of mine was in that position, it suck that u cant remap ur keyboard in that situation
(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
AnOther
Profile Joined April 2004
565 Posts
April 27 2004 01:17 GMT
#66
i wouldnt use it because if u get used to it and u goto lan its gunna be diff so ill stay the way the game is no change OO;;
jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
April 27 2004 01:20 GMT
#67
On April 27 2004 09:25 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
Oh, and btw I just realised that it's not a 3rd party program because it doesn't work in conjuction with SC, it just recodes one of it's files. Windows can do exactly the same thing, and I think we can all agree that Blizzard allows *that*.


a program is considered 3rd party if it affects the basic game files in

ANY WAY.

so if u take the editor and would code the changes for your own, the editor would be considered as a 3rd party program, sind u

ARE NOT ALLOWED

to alter the game code on the hd OR the memors, once its loaded.
even mpq browsers are 3rd party programs, but they cant be detected unless u change something.
replay browsers and other replay related stuff arent 3rd party, since replays are NOT basic game files (since they are only files generated by the game itself).

technically lasgos observer pack is a 3rd party program.


but let me tell u 1 thing

I REALLY DONT CARE ABOUT THAT DAMN "IS IT HACK OR NOT?" DISCUSSION!

thats so childish .... really. tl.net is really grate, but even here some ppl think progaming is their destiny (in fact, none of the ppl whining about it would ever win the slighest money prize in bw :/ )
(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
Yang
Profile Joined October 2003
Lithuania231 Posts
April 27 2004 01:32 GMT
#68
are there any koreans, who saw progamers playing?
In vod i remember showing xellos fast hand. It was TvZ and he never bring hand to 'm' hotkey..
btw, not everyone plays six years bw, so such arguments, as 'if u have not learned hotkeys six years... ' makes no sense..
dfgh
T_T
Profile Joined December 2003
Vatican City State593 Posts
April 27 2004 01:37 GMT
#69
he probably uses his thumb. boxer does it this way.
jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
April 27 2004 01:41 GMT
#70
On April 27 2004 10:37 T_T wrote:
he probably uses his thumb. boxer does it this way.


what finger did u use for m?
lift the right hand off the mouse and do it with it?

-_-

i also use the thumb for m ...
(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
April 27 2004 01:45 GMT
#71
I want that Starkey thing, it looks cool
Nak Allstar.
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
April 27 2004 01:45 GMT
#72
On April 27 2004 08:38 HnR)Louder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2004 06:41 GroT wrote:
it's not cheating cause everyone can benefit from it?

everyone can benefit from maphack too

changing your keys make the game less challenging and gives you an unfair advantage over someone who doesn't, that's why it's a cheat according to me

you could start argueing that having a better mouse than your opponent gives you an unfair advantage over him too, but that's just lacking of common sense


Well, if you were going to make that argument work, you would first have to prove that all races are even on hotkey placement, which they most certainly are not. Protoss has a huge disadvantage with P for pylon and probe being on the far right side of the keyboard (English KB, anyway). Terran has to reach across the board to hit I for mines, Zerg has to reach over for O. Not to mention 7-0 hotkeys are a bitch to hit when you're trying to quickly macro. Note the layout of the StarKey board's numbers =\ Far more ergonomic.

Customizing your keyboard settings is no different than customizing your mouse or display settings =\ You cannot effectively argue that it is, because there is nothing to found the argument.



you make a very solid case, well done
DANCE ALL DAY
Louder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States2276 Posts
April 27 2004 01:49 GMT
#73
Lasgo release the program ^^ you will never make everyone happy, there's no point in trying
ChOGoSu
Profile Joined November 2003
Macedonia31 Posts
April 27 2004 01:49 GMT
#74
Afcourse it's not a hack!!! Can't weit till it's realesed Gj guys
You have been given a brain USE IT!!!
ZorAptoR
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Switzerland926 Posts
April 27 2004 01:56 GMT
#75
just make a poll here on tl.net, scgamers and wgt and see what the community decides, cause in the end lan tourneys adapt their rules to the common gaming styles...
in SOMA we TRUST
Louder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States2276 Posts
April 27 2004 02:07 GMT
#76
On April 27 2004 10:56 ZorAptoR wrote:
just make a poll here on tl.net, scgamers and wgt and see what the community decides, cause in the end lan tourneys adapt their rules to the common gaming styles...


except wcg
chicken`
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany3478 Posts
April 27 2004 02:12 GMT
#77
go release it ^^!!!
jeremy clarkson = god
Taguchi
Profile Joined February 2003
Greece1575 Posts
April 27 2004 02:16 GMT
#78
not a hack lolz

id probably not use it because of needing to adjust to something new but id not mind it being used by an opponent
Great minds might think alike, but fastest hands rule the day~
Piccolo
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Chile621 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-04-27 02:31:18
April 27 2004 02:30 GMT
#79
- It is hack if i adapt my PSX controler to my PC to play fifa2004? (i have done it)

- It is hack than Elky play with sunglasses?

- It is hack if i change my keys in SC?? OF CORSE NOT! Let's see... if the game doesn't have that option... but you find a config.ini that you can edit... C'MON! everybody would edit that file to make the game more confortable.

I wouldnt use it, becouse i'm already used to the original keys... but i don't have any problem if some oponent like to use it. I like to configure my own controls for almost every game... SF, MK, KOF, and belive me... if i could change the keys years ago when i was starting to play sc... i would done it.

I don't fucking care if it's a 3rd party program, don't give the oponent any advantage, only comodity. I'm pretty confortable with the original keys... so i don't mind if you use it or not.
Also, i think it's great and a big option that i would like it to have when i started to play...

Sorry for my sorry english... ^^
You said wc3 was simpler than SC, wc3 is 3d, SC is 2d, therefore you can counter yourself.... OVazioFrio
cjh
Profile Joined October 2003
Canada857 Posts
April 27 2004 02:57 GMT
#80
--- Nuked ---
Be cool.
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