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JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
April 12 2010 13:26 GMT
#321
you kids gossip like fucking schoolgirls, jesus
HEY MEYT
Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
April 12 2010 13:26 GMT
#322
On April 12 2010 22:25 KristianJS wrote:
Yeah, can't release the list yet. Innocent until proven guilty guys, don't forget that being falsely put on that list could ruin someones career entirely.

This is incredibly shocking though. To be honest, I wonder if the extremely harsh environment for progamers has a lot to do with it...


With this many people (allegedly) involved, I would say so.
peanutter
Profile Joined February 2009
Australia165 Posts
April 12 2010 13:27 GMT
#323
On April 12 2010 21:32 Rekrul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 21:28 mdb wrote:
On April 12 2010 21:24 Rekrul wrote:
On April 12 2010 21:21 Maynard wrote:
Pro gamers are a very desperate bunch. Anyone chasing this esports pipe dream is wasting their time. Idra gtfo of pro gaming you. Don't be a moron. Any foreigner with a brain quit after a couple months or absolutely dominated.

Someone told me the scene has changed since I left. They were full of it. It's still filled with desperate people willing to throw their future away for the chance to make money playing video games.


well if all the progamers get convicted and banned then that leaves alot of airtime to be filled up!

maybe this is idras big chance!


You better bribe his opponent then, so he can win at least once.


nah i think i'll just bet against idra straight up

free money

and moral freedom


and this is why match fixing occurs
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
April 12 2010 13:28 GMT
#324
I bet PL changed their structure because of this.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 13:30:37
April 12 2010 13:28 GMT
#325
When I say, "Make the list public." I mean after the cheaters are verified -_-

Hwasin's teammate threw the game, so Hwasin could win something for once. Either way they were splitting the winnings. Still this takes away from the 'competitive spirit.'

EDIT: Besides that, I don't feel like going through shitloads of Hwasin youtube videos to pinpoint the games he threw.

They have private investigators working on it, so there is no need.
If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun - Katharine Hepburn
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
April 12 2010 13:29 GMT
#326
On April 12 2010 22:26 JohnColtrane wrote:
you kids gossip like fucking schoolgirls, jesus


You're...surprised by this?
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51709 Posts
April 12 2010 13:29 GMT
#327
On April 12 2010 22:28 SuperJongMan wrote:
I bet PL changed their structure because of this.


actually they publicly announced the change was because of 'betting sites'
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wking
Profile Joined January 2010
China17 Posts
April 12 2010 13:29 GMT
#328
I can't believe it. Savior We still love U. But don't try to cheat us!!
FlaSh is the best!!!! This July The Triple King!!!
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
April 12 2010 13:30 GMT
#329
On April 12 2010 22:26 JohnColtrane wrote:
you kids gossip like fucking schoolgirls, jesus

Go back to your knitting, grandma.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 12 2010 13:30 GMT
#330
On April 12 2010 22:25 KristianJS wrote:
Yeah, can't release the list yet. Innocent until proven guilty guys, don't forget that being falsely put on that list could ruin someones career entirely.

This is incredibly shocking though. To be honest, I wonder if the extremely harsh environment for progamers has a lot to do with it...


Yes, innocent until proven guilty.

A few pple on that list are earning some really big bucks. I don't think it's the environment so much as the former progamers being involved. If your hyung or senior, someone you trusted in the past tells you it's ok to do something like that and you're barely out of your teens/early twenties, it's very easy to fall to temptation. Most Korean progamers turn pro/have lived with their team since high school, their family is basically their team. If one of their family members is part of it, it's very easy to get involved.



영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
gaggar
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada118 Posts
April 12 2010 13:30 GMT
#331
On April 12 2010 22:28 SuperJongMan wrote:
I bet PL changed their structure because of this.


Yeah. The roster is not being released prior to the games now, afaik.
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
April 12 2010 13:31 GMT
#332
On April 12 2010 22:30 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 22:26 JohnColtrane wrote:
you kids gossip like fucking schoolgirls, jesus

Go back to your knitting, grandma.


wish i had big muscles like you
HEY MEYT
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
April 12 2010 13:31 GMT
#333
After the guilty have been determined then yeah, they absolutely need to be publicly announced. It's absolutely crucial for this to happen if they want SC to survive as a spectator sport.
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
April 12 2010 13:34 GMT
#334
Shit....
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3139 Posts
April 12 2010 13:35 GMT
#335
Holy Coweth.

Wellllll...this is obviously very, very, very, very, very, very bad. Worst-case scenario, this could spell the end of Korean BW progaming for good; or at least wound it enough for SC2 to take over.

However, I think we should hold out on outright condemning rumored players and other people until we have some kind of confirmation. There's no point speculating wildly and then using your speculations to beat up on people.

Mostly, I REALLY hope that that "insider" list is fake...especially Stork-wise.
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5913 Posts
April 12 2010 13:35 GMT
#336
On April 12 2010 22:13 Aim Here wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 21:50 Antisocialmunky wrote:
You know they should hold a special tournament for all everyone eventually convicted in a prison. I'd watch, there are some pretty good players in there.


Better yet, following Air Force ACE, they should form a new proteam, the Seodaemun Prison Recidivists, with haircuts even more severe than ACE, and with a coach who also doubles up as head warden. Their uniforms would be highly sought-after progamer swag too.

Naturally high-fiving after each win is a bit tricky with the handcuffs on, but that's the Price of Justice...




I wonder how handcuffs effect APM?
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snowdrift
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France2061 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 13:46:16
April 12 2010 13:36 GMT
#337
On April 12 2010 15:53 gaggar wrote:
http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=105710&db=issue
A bit more serious one here. E-sports organizers knew about this and attempted solving the issue through various methods, but as all illegal business goes, they were good at avoiding and re-opening. At a closed conference between E-sports organizers and betting site representatives, the betting sites in a bold move suggested that they should find a way to co-exist with the illegal betting sites - or else they'll release the list of everyone in the e-sports who are involved in the shady deals.


Holy fuck, either these "E-sports organizers" are stupid as bricks or they were all so deeply involved that they couldn't back out of it. Setting up conferences with these betting sites, when their only goal is to wring as much money as they can from the scene? There's no way they would've come to an agreement that wouldn't have fucked them over and turned progaming into a joke.

At first I thought only individual players were doing this, but it makes sense that there were intermediaries, and that they were the people who had access to the rosters and lineups and were involved in the nitty-gritty of team management. They probably helped single out the players who would be interested in these deals.

I wonder what the sponsors are thinking.
NaDa. Our Lord and sAviOr shall return. Learn to nydus you scrub
Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
April 12 2010 13:37 GMT
#338
Not surprising, it happens to megabucks earners like nba and soccer, why can't it happen to sc? I wonder whether fbh and jangbi throw some games looking at the way they play in those games without even trying, suspicious indeed for the level of progamers.
pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
April 12 2010 13:39 GMT
#339
Today its a good day for Blizzard, as Kespa´s reputation will get TERRIBLE TERRIBLE DAMAGEEE
StarCraft-ESP.com Admin - Spanish StarCraft Community
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
April 12 2010 13:41 GMT
#340
To be honest, if every name on that 'insider-list' turns out to be true, the blow to SC might be fatal. I mean shit, can you imagine if even Jaedong and Stork did it?

I don't think that list can be fully true though. I can't find it in myself to consider some of those names as actual possibilities. On the flip side, that's exactly why its truth would be a death-blow.
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
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