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fly.stat
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States449 Posts
April 12 2010 13:12 GMT
#301
On April 12 2010 17:58 29 fps wrote:
There's a list of names in the middle of the page. I'll list the ones I know.

Myung Soo ((Z)Yarnc), Chan Soo ((Z)Luxury), Sang Ho ((P)SangHo), Jung Woo ((Z)EffOrt), Yong Hwa ((P)Movie), Jae Yoon ((Z)sAviOr), Taek Yong ((P)Bisu), Byong Goo ((P)Stork), Jae Wook ((P)BeSt), il Jang ((Z)hero), Myung Hoon (fantasy), Heui Seung ((T)UpMaGiC), Jae Dong ((Z)Jaedong), Sang Moon ((T)Leta), Jong Seo ((T)Justin), Chang Hee (go.go)

that's just a list in the middle. i only know the names, so i don't know if that's the list of suspects or what not.


Twins - yes
Sangho - yes
Effort - yes
Movie - possibly
savior - yes
Bisu - doubtful, he already drives a ferrari ffs
Stork - doubtful
Best - yes
hero - maybe?
fantasy - very possible, OSL finals vs. JD comes to mind, not to say JD was involved.
upmagic - yes
jaedong - no, jaedong face makes this impossible. kid wants to win too much.
leta - yes, known cheater
justin - yes
go.go- yes

But what's worse: betting on yourself to lose, or + Show Spoiler +
betting on flash to win?

Until I write you again, take care of your precious person.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 13:19:39
April 12 2010 13:13 GMT
#302
lol this post wasn't constructive
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Aim Here
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Scotland672 Posts
April 12 2010 13:13 GMT
#303
On April 12 2010 21:50 Antisocialmunky wrote:
You know they should hold a special tournament for all everyone eventually convicted in a prison. I'd watch, there are some pretty good players in there.


Better yet, following Air Force ACE, they should form a new proteam, the Seodaemun Prison Recidivists, with haircuts even more severe than ACE, and with a coach who also doubles up as head warden. Their uniforms would be highly sought-after progamer swag too.

Naturally high-fiving after each win is a bit tricky with the handcuffs on, but that's the Price of Justice...


konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 13:16:08
April 12 2010 13:14 GMT
#304
On April 12 2010 22:12 GTR wrote:
FOMOS just released their opinion pieces. Summaries would be most appreciated.

it's in the OP

unless it's the new ones you are talking about
POGGERS
Danka
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Peru1018 Posts
April 12 2010 13:15 GMT
#305
I dont think the list will be revealed. . .
Its not the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog. - Mark Twain
Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
April 12 2010 13:15 GMT
#306
On April 12 2010 22:13 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
They're naming no names, but those involved are as followed: A former pro gamer coach, a former match caster/announcer, a pro-gaming scene reporter, and other numerous former pro-gamers.

eSTRO has had a lot of players implicated.

If you connect the dots here it leads to an interesting place.


Oh my....
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 13:17:11
April 12 2010 13:16 GMT
#307
On April 12 2010 22:03 lolaloc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 21:57 SuperArc wrote:
On April 12 2010 21:56 F.A.O.D. wrote:
On April 12 2010 21:50 Antisocialmunky wrote:
You know they should hold a special tournament for all everyone eventually convicted in a prison. I'd watch, there are some pretty good players in there.


lmao yeah

and the winner should get reduced jail time


or a single cell.

Imagine the epic games we would get.

Okay punks, here's the rules. Champion doesn't get behind bars. All matches will be Bo3 until finals which will be a grueling Bo9. Who's up for this challenge?


Private shower :-D And maybe show starring them adapting to prison life.
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bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
April 12 2010 13:16 GMT
#308
They owe it to everyone to make the 'list' public.

I knew this was going on. It's about time they admitted it.

This includes everyone from Savior to fake Yellow to the Red Sniper.
If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun - Katharine Hepburn
Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
April 12 2010 13:17 GMT
#309
On April 12 2010 22:16 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
They owe it to everyone to make the 'list' public.

I knew this was going on. It's about time they admitted it.

This includes everyone from Savior to fake Yellow to the Red Sniper.


You are right, but don't drag Hwasin's good name into this. He isn't a suspect as far as we know.
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
April 12 2010 13:18 GMT
#310
On April 12 2010 22:15 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 22:13 motbob wrote:
They're naming no names, but those involved are as followed: A former pro gamer coach, a former match caster/announcer, a pro-gaming scene reporter, and other numerous former pro-gamers.

eSTRO has had a lot of players implicated.

If you connect the dots here it leads to an interesting place.


Oh my....

SDM?
I am not good with quotes
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
April 12 2010 13:19 GMT
#311
On April 12 2010 22:13 Aim Here wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 21:50 Antisocialmunky wrote:
You know they should hold a special tournament for all everyone eventually convicted in a prison. I'd watch, there are some pretty good players in there.


Better yet, following Air Force ACE, they should form a new proteam, the Seodaemun Prison Recidivists, with haircuts even more severe than ACE, and with a coach who also doubles up as head warden. Their uniforms would be highly sought-after progamer swag too.

Naturally high-fiving after each win is a bit tricky with the handcuffs on, but that's the Price of Justice...




I like you sir, you amuse me.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Aim Here
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Scotland672 Posts
April 12 2010 13:20 GMT
#312
On April 12 2010 22:13 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
They're naming no names, but those involved are as followed: A former pro gamer coach, a former match caster/announcer, a pro-gaming scene reporter, and other numerous former pro-gamers.

eSTRO has had a lot of players implicated.

If you connect the dots here it leads to an interesting place.

[emphasis changed]

You're not wrong. eSTRO? pro-gaming scene reporter? Say it's not so, Dan, say it's not so....
lowbright
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
308 Posts
April 12 2010 13:21 GMT
#313
oh god
savior and effort wtf

That list is massive, it's practically a who's who in starcraft besides flash.
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #49
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 13:22:36
April 12 2010 13:21 GMT
#314
On April 12 2010 22:16 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
They owe it to everyone to make the 'list' public.

I knew this was going on. It's about time they admitted it.

This includes everyone from Savior to fake Yellow to the Red Sniper.


They can't make the list public when no arrests have been made yet. It would be foolish to release a list now and then later have to add or remove names from it. It would completely ruin a player's career if they released his name on a suspect's list when it hasn't been confirmed whether he was actually involved or not. Bisu comes to mind. I don't think he did it but if they released an official list with his name on it, his reputation will be ruined forever.

And Hwasin isn't even rumored to be involved.

영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
April 12 2010 13:22 GMT
#315
Actually he is. Everyone knows he cheated in China.

Now if I could direct you to a few old youtube vods of him throwing some of his games then everything would be peachy.

I know for a fact the guy did it.
If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun - Katharine Hepburn
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
April 12 2010 13:23 GMT
#316
On April 12 2010 22:20 Aim Here wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 22:13 motbob wrote:
They're naming no names, but those involved are as followed: A former pro gamer coach, a former match caster/announcer, a pro-gaming scene reporter, and other numerous former pro-gamers.

eSTRO has had a lot of players implicated.

If you connect the dots here it leads to an interesting place.

[emphasis changed]

You're not wrong. eSTRO? pro-gaming scene reporter? Say it's not so, Dan, say it's not so....

Or better yet....
"A former pro gamer coach" - SDM
"a former match caster/announcer" - Tasteless
"a pro-gaming scene reporter" - artosis
"numerous former pro-gamers" - rekrul, legionnaire, assem, nazgul

It's so obvious!
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 12 2010 13:24 GMT
#317
On April 12 2010 22:22 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
Actually he is. Everyone knows he cheated in China.

Now if I could direct you to a few old youtube vods of him throwing some of his games then everything would be peachy.

I know for a fact the guy did it.


Beyond "everyone knows", "youtuve vods" and "I know for a fact", how about some evidence from Korean sources?
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
April 12 2010 13:24 GMT
#318
You make a valid point. Makes me think that there could be even more players who were involved but somehow avoided detection.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
April 12 2010 13:24 GMT
#319
On April 12 2010 22:22 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
Actually he is. Everyone knows he cheated in China.

Now if I could direct you to a few old youtube vods of him throwing some of his games then everything would be peachy.

I know for a fact the guy did it.

wasn't that not really cheating but deciding to plan the game since both are in the finals or something?
POGGERS
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
April 12 2010 13:25 GMT
#320
Yeah, can't release the list yet. Innocent until proven guilty guys, don't forget that being falsely put on that list could ruin someones career entirely.

This is incredibly shocking though. To be honest, I wonder if the extremely harsh environment for progamers has a lot to do with it...
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
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