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Magic84
Russian Federation1381 Posts
Mafia spirit lives on, people just can't live without f*cking with the system. | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
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Ghardo
Germany1685 Posts
On April 12 2010 20:28 3D.Strelok wrote: Well i will give my humble opinion about this situation. I can understand why second rated progamers do that. They can't earn big money either on winning tournament or having big salaries, so they bet on matches. But think at least a bit why top progamers with big salaries do that? It's pretty easy to explain. Guys, they are slaves. Slaves of KESPA. Remember the situation with Jaedong last year? In football or any other sport - when player becomes leader in his team - he wants to move to bigger team or get better salary and usually he gets it. Team gets some reward for that ofc. So both teams are satisfied, player is satisfied, everything fine. But those fucking KESPA rules don't give players an opportunity to do that or that opportunity is really miserable. The only real opportunity for player to move between teams is if coaches agree on their level(and they usually agree only if team doesn't need that player). But if they agree - noone takes care if player wants to move himself. Players didn't like that their opinion doesn't matter. They had find the way to earn bigger money themselfes. I think the only person which is really guilty is KESPA or their coaches, but not players themself. Give players more freedom, don't act them as they are slaved and everything will be fine! interesting point of view. this could well be part of the problem. at least in my opinion it's always a matter of what conditions are dictated by the macro level (KESPA) and how people will then act according to the (sometimes negative) restrictions they are facing. but the question is if one can measure korean progaming teams in standards of western sports teams where freedom and independence to make your own decisions (as to employment, climbing the career ladder etc.) have a different, culturally based, value. KESPA in their complacent and "ignorant" manner may be part of the problem but the players must also have known what's at stake as betting and especially match fixing is a crime in korea, not to speak of their reputation which will be permanently destroyed. and since i assume that not all the progamers who knew about it personally participated in match fixing it still comes down to the individual greed of some players who couldn't get enough and thought they would get away with it. pitiful. (again, if KESPA would ease their silly "slavery" restrictions it could reduce the temptation to involve yourself in criminal match fixing but saying KESPA is the only one to blame, ugh, that wouldn't be fair to the players who declined any offers from those shady betting sites) | ||
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MacWorld
Sweden227 Posts
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mrdx
Vietnam1555 Posts
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JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
On April 12 2010 21:51 mrdx wrote: Could everyone leave Boxer's name out of this thread please. Just mentioning HIM here is a blasphemy already. boxer did it | ||
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
what? | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
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F.A.O.D.
100 Posts
On April 12 2010 21:50 Antisocialmunky wrote: You know they should hold a special tournament for all everyone eventually convicted in a prison. I'd watch, there are some pretty good players in there. lmao yeah and the winner should get reduced jail time | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On April 12 2010 21:56 F.A.O.D. wrote: lmao yeah and the winner should get reduced jail time or a single cell. Imagine the epic games we would get.  | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
Drive people like slaves and pay them for shit but give them a skill set that captures an entire nation and you have a setup. | ||
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gaggar
Canada118 Posts
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ZenDeX
Philippines2916 Posts
On April 12 2010 21:57 SuperArc wrote: or a single cell. Imagine the epic games we would get. Okay punks, here's the rules. Champion doesn't get behind bars. All matches will be Bo3 until finals which will be a grueling Bo9. Who's up for this challenge? | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
I don't like where this is going.  | ||
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RoieTRS
United States2569 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
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pangolin123
China25 Posts
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GTR
51556 Posts
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lowbright
308 Posts
i am reading this thread in a new light. | ||
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mrdx
Vietnam1555 Posts
On April 12 2010 21:56 infinity2k9 wrote: There isn't enough money in progaming to pay the players enough to stop this kind of thing, you can't blame KESPA for it. No you're wrong. The higher the money the higher the bribes. Match rigging exists in all level of sporting competition from multi million dollar matches to local amateur tourneys. While most of the times the players that rigged games are first to blame (and deserve to be punished most of course), if things tend to happen repetitively or in a large scale then there must be something wrong with the governing body of that system. | ||
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