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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
April 12 2010 12:17 GMT
#261
On April 12 2010 17:58 29 fps wrote:
There's a list of names in the middle of the page. I'll list the ones I know.

Myung Soo ((Z)Yarnc), Chan Soo ((Z)Luxury), Sang Ho ((P)SangHo), Jung Woo ((Z)EffOrt), Yong Hwa ((P)Movie), Jae Yoon ((Z)sAviOr), Taek Yong ((P)Bisu), Byong Goo ((P)Stork), Jae Wook ((P)BeSt), il Jang ((Z)hero), Myung Hoon (fantasy), Heui Seung ((T)UpMaGiC), Jae Dong ((Z)Jaedong), Sang Moon ((T)Leta), Jong Seo ((T)Justin), Chang Hee (go.go)

that's just a list in the middle. i only know the names, so i don't know if that's the list of suspects or what not.


Reposting the list that was originally found on page 6 and 7
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 12:21:11
April 12 2010 12:18 GMT
#262
On April 12 2010 18:57 Chen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 17:58 29 fps wrote:
There's a list of names in the middle of the page. I'll list the ones I know.

Myung Soo (yarnc), Chan Soo (Luxury), Sang Ho (Sangho), Jung Woo (Effort), Yong Hwa (Movie), Jae Yoon (???), Taek Yong (Bisu), Byong Goo (Sotkr), Jae Wook (Best), il Jang (???), Myung Hoon (???), Heui Seung (sp? and dunno who), Jae Dong (Jaedong), Sang Moon (Leta), Jong Seo (???), Chang Hee (gogo??)

that's just a list in the middle. i only know the names, so i don't know if that's the list of suspects or what not.

NOTE, THESE PEOPLE HAVE NOT BEEN CONVICTED, THEY ARE MERELY "UNDER INVESTIGATION". BASICALLY MEANS NOTHING SINCE EVERY TOP GAMER MINUS FLASH IS LISTED.
STOP OVERREACTING


THIS

Pple being so quick to condemn over a list of names, which btw has been deleted so the vast majority of pple here haven't even seen the original list.

On April 12 2010 21:13 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 20:46 konadora wrote:
On April 12 2010 20:43 SubtleArt wrote:
Question: Any chance JAedong is involved? His recent ZvZ failures and forgetting consume in that game on matchpoint vs Flash seems really odd

But does that make his MSL win (POWER OUTAGE or not) odd? I don't think any of recent players would be involved, especially Jaedong and Flash.

Just saw the list. Sigh. Omg. That list is insane. I just refuse to believe the whole list.


Where is this list?


The person who posted it on dcinside has deleted it. I haven't seen it yet so I refuse to comment on what's on it.

영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 00:53:26
April 12 2010 12:21 GMT
#263
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
April 12 2010 12:24 GMT
#264
On April 12 2010 21:21 Maynard wrote:
Pro gamers are a very desperate bunch. Anyone chasing this esports pipe dream is wasting their time. Idra gtfo of pro gaming you. Don't be a moron. Any foreigner with a brain quit after a couple months or absolutely dominated.

Someone told me the scene has changed since I left. They were full of it. It's still filled with desperate people willing to throw their future away for the chance to make money playing video games.


well if all the progamers get convicted and banned then that leaves alot of airtime to be filled up!

maybe this is idras big chance!
why so 진지해?
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
April 12 2010 12:24 GMT
#265
On April 12 2010 21:21 Maynard wrote:
Pro gamers are a very desperate bunch. Anyone chasing this esports pipe dream is wasting their time. Idra gtfo of pro gaming you. Don't be a moron. Any foreigner with a brain quit after a couple months or absolutely dominated.

Someone told me the scene has changed since I left. They were full of it. It's still filled with desperate people willing to throw their future away for the chance to make money playing video games.


Sounds like fair advice.

On the other hand, if Effort and Movie took a fall here, CJ suddenly has that many more open spots for the A-team
#1 Great fan ~ // Khan // FlaSh // JangBi // EffOrt //
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
April 12 2010 12:24 GMT
#266
On April 12 2010 21:13 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 20:46 konadora wrote:
On April 12 2010 20:43 SubtleArt wrote:
Question: Any chance JAedong is involved? His recent ZvZ failures and forgetting consume in that game on matchpoint vs Flash seems really odd

But does that make his MSL win (POWER OUTAGE or not) odd? I don't think any of recent players would be involved, especially Jaedong and Flash.

Just saw the list. Sigh. Omg. That list is insane. I just refuse to believe the whole list.


Where is this list?


On April 12 2010 17:58 29 fps wrote:
There's a list of names in the middle of the page. I'll list the ones I know.

Myung Soo ((Z)Yarnc), Chan Soo ((Z)Luxury), Sang Ho ((P)SangHo), Jung Woo ((Z)EffOrt), Yong Hwa ((P)Movie), Jae Yoon ((Z)sAviOr), Taek Yong ((P)Bisu), Byong Goo ((P)Stork), Jae Wook ((P)BeSt), il Jang ((Z)hero), Myung Hoon (fantasy), Heui Seung ((T)UpMaGiC), Jae Dong ((Z)Jaedong), Sang Moon ((T)Leta), Jong Seo ((T)Justin), Chang Hee (go.go)

that's just a list in the middle. i only know the names, so i don't know if that's the list of suspects or what not.
POGGERS
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
April 12 2010 12:28 GMT
#267
On April 12 2010 21:24 Rekrul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 21:21 Maynard wrote:
Pro gamers are a very desperate bunch. Anyone chasing this esports pipe dream is wasting their time. Idra gtfo of pro gaming you. Don't be a moron. Any foreigner with a brain quit after a couple months or absolutely dominated.

Someone told me the scene has changed since I left. They were full of it. It's still filled with desperate people willing to throw their future away for the chance to make money playing video games.


well if all the progamers get convicted and banned then that leaves alot of airtime to be filled up!

maybe this is idras big chance!


You better bribe his opponent then, so he can win at least once.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
April 12 2010 12:32 GMT
#268
On April 12 2010 21:28 mdb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 21:24 Rekrul wrote:
On April 12 2010 21:21 Maynard wrote:
Pro gamers are a very desperate bunch. Anyone chasing this esports pipe dream is wasting their time. Idra gtfo of pro gaming you. Don't be a moron. Any foreigner with a brain quit after a couple months or absolutely dominated.

Someone told me the scene has changed since I left. They were full of it. It's still filled with desperate people willing to throw their future away for the chance to make money playing video games.


well if all the progamers get convicted and banned then that leaves alot of airtime to be filled up!

maybe this is idras big chance!


You better bribe his opponent then, so he can win at least once.


nah i think i'll just bet against idra straight up

free money

and moral freedom
why so 진지해?
love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
April 12 2010 12:34 GMT
#269
Nawww. Even without bribing, Idra can win at LEAST once. It's weird to see Bisu Stork and Jaedong in that list. At least Flash is missing
"I'm learning more and more that TL isn't the place to go for advice outside of anything you need in college. It's like you guys just make up your own fantasy world shit and post it as if you've done it." - Chill
Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 12:36:51
April 12 2010 12:35 GMT
#270
I'm just glad Boxer isn't most likely involved. (I'm on page 7 and hope not to be proved wrong.)

Also Flash and Sea are out. Just goes to show that us terran players are more awesome.
Stan: Dude, dolphins are intelligent and friendly. Cartman: Intelligent and friendly on rye bread with some mayonnaise.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
April 12 2010 12:36 GMT
#271
Idra already made the switch to SC2 though, would they even let him play Broodwar if they were short a Terran?
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
April 12 2010 12:37 GMT
#272
On April 12 2010 21:35 Squeegy wrote:
I'm just glad Boxer isn't most likely involved. (I'm on page 7 and hope not to be proved wrong.)


Boxer is definitely not involved. You can see it in his eyes every time he plays, that he's playing for the fans, not money. He does goofy stuff to entertain us.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 12:39:35
April 12 2010 12:37 GMT
#273
Maybe this will finally get Boxer his player's union since atleast UpMagic was complaining about how crappy he got paid. I mean, for a player that is that cool to watch and was capable of taking games off Flash with Battle Cruisers a year ago before he ascending to Terran Machine God status... yeah.

I wonder when Boxer will released an article on this. I'm sure he's on the first wave of reaction stories.
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Marine/Raven Guide:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=163605
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
April 12 2010 12:37 GMT
#274
well the scene is so fucking competitive, there is so much pressure and the progamers practice for ungodly 29384234 hours and don't get paid shit.

I think it's pretty understandable why they would do this. The cold reality is that cash rules this world.
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Fish_Baguettes
Profile Joined March 2008
Australia589 Posts
April 12 2010 12:38 GMT
#275
Are there any comments by the korean netizens that can be translated? And whats the general mood over there at the moment? I know Rekrul said that the koreans have known this for months already, but now that its actually been posted on Naver...

I wonder if the teams or players will ever make a statement...
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
April 12 2010 12:39 GMT
#276
[QUOTE]On April 12 2010 18:21 Suc wrote:
[QUOTE]On April 12 2010 17:58 29 fps wrote:
There's a list of names in the middle of the page. I'll list the ones I know.

Myung Soo (yarnc), Chan Soo (Luxury), Sang Ho (Sangho), Jung Woo (Effort), Yong Hwa (Movie), Jae Yoon (???), Taek Yong (Bisu), Byong Goo (Sotkr), Jae Wook (Best), il Jang (???), Myung Hoon (???), Heui Seung (sp? and dunno who), Jae Dong (Jaedong), Sang Moon (Leta), Jong Seo (???), Chang Hee (gogo??)

that's just a list in the middle. i only know the names, so i don't know if that's the list of suspects or what not.[/QUOTE]

Damn, these are only the people under investigation so it still gives me hope. But it seems whoever wrote this list or whoever is investigating just stuck everyone who is supposed to be a beast but is doing badly.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 12 2010 12:39 GMT
#277
On April 12 2010 21:35 Squeegy wrote:
I'm just glad Boxer isn't most likely involved. (I'm on page 7 and hope not to be proved wrong.)

Also Flash and Sea are out. Just goes to show that us terran players are more awesome.


No MBC players involved in the rumors. The fear of Coach Ha physically beating them to pulp is deterrent enough against illegal activities.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
April 12 2010 12:41 GMT
#278
I don't know about Jaedong, he still hardly loses. Maybe its just a list of people being investigated as being related to the match fixing like they were approached or were involved in the past or positively affected by one.

Enteritis huh?
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Marine/Raven Guide:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=163605
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
April 12 2010 12:42 GMT
#279
Wow...I'm actually nervous.

Please for the love of god just let this have been a bad rumor and let it blow over.
this is my quote.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
April 12 2010 12:42 GMT
#280
On April 12 2010 21:37 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 21:35 Squeegy wrote:
I'm just glad Boxer isn't most likely involved. (I'm on page 7 and hope not to be proved wrong.)


Boxer is definitely not involved. You can see it in his eyes every time he plays, that he's playing for the fans, not money. He does goofy stuff to entertain us.

Yeah man, Boxer invented e-sports. How can you even doubt HIS passion and sincerity and love for ESPORTS, even amongst this? The Emperor plays for the love of the game and the fans, not for the cash.
POGGERS
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