• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:43
CEST 19:43
KST 02:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists14[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers11Maestros of the Game 2 announced32026 GSL Tour plans announced10Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid20
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail MaNa leaves Team Liquid Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued 2026 GSL Tour plans announced
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly) $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Pros React To: Tulbo in Ro.16 Group A RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site BW General Discussion
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro16 Group A [ASL21] Ro16 Group B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Reappraising The Situation T…
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2611 users

Korea Swept In Illegal Starcraft League Gambling - Page 12

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 63 Next
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
April 12 2010 10:59 GMT
#221
NOT STORK

ANYONE BUT STORK

I'm glad to see no STXers (maybe by.hero?) have been suspected yet. Yes, I realize there was the Hwasin/Calm scandal awhile back, but cheating to help your teammate and cheating for financial gain aren't on the same level for me.
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
April 12 2010 11:00 GMT
#222
If so many progamers get caught, I'm serously giving up. These are people you have a good relation with, and think they do their best to preform, and now they have been backstabing you all this time. BYE proscene
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1699 Posts
April 12 2010 11:02 GMT
#223
ICCUP BAN?^^
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 11:06:00
April 12 2010 11:03 GMT
#224
On April 12 2010 20:00 ThePhan2m wrote:
If so many progamers get caught, I'm serously giving up. These are people you have a good relation with, and think they do their best to preform, and now they have been backstabing you all this time. BYE proscene

Same. Yesterday was sadness, today is indifference. I guess I'm glad this came out during SC2, so we can look towards the American/Euro scene again.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
April 12 2010 11:04 GMT
#225
On April 12 2010 20:02 paulinepain wrote:
ICCUP BAN?^^

"The following players have been caught guilty. As punishment they will be banned from playing SC2. :>"
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
April 12 2010 11:05 GMT
#226
if any of this confirms to be true, it would be very very heartbreaking
BW is back
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 11:11:28
April 12 2010 11:05 GMT
#227
my opinion on the matter holds that as long as neither july, stork, nor nada were involved in these goings-on then ESPORTS can continue untarnished.

also, this potentially allows the "bisu is on paid vacation" story to take on a whole new ironic twist.
Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
April 12 2010 11:05 GMT
#228
On April 12 2010 20:00 ThePhan2m wrote:
If so many progamers get caught, I'm serously giving up. These are people you have a good relation with, and think they do their best to preform, and now they have been backstabing you all this time. BYE proscene


Lol what? Progamers don't owe you a damn thing.
pheus
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia161 Posts
April 12 2010 11:06 GMT
#229
On April 12 2010 19:39 Rekrul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 19:27 pheus wrote:
exactly, you would only ever pay someone to lose if they were favoured to win. If they were going to lose anyway you would just bet against them - no real need to spend more money to guarantee it.


yeah, you're not very smart lol


Haha yeah I realised as I was typing it that I contradicted myself, but then I was like, fuck it, this thread is full of bs flying in every direction anyway, may as well add some more static to the noise
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
April 12 2010 11:10 GMT
#230
On April 12 2010 20:05 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 20:00 ThePhan2m wrote:
If so many progamers get caught, I'm serously giving up. These are people you have a good relation with, and think they do their best to preform, and now they have been backstabing you all this time. BYE proscene


Lol what? Progamers don't owe you a damn thing.


What's your point?
Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
April 12 2010 11:11 GMT
#231
On April 12 2010 20:10 Juicyfruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 20:05 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
On April 12 2010 20:00 ThePhan2m wrote:
If so many progamers get caught, I'm serously giving up. These are people you have a good relation with, and think they do their best to preform, and now they have been backstabing you all this time. BYE proscene


Lol what? Progamers don't owe you a damn thing.


What's your point?


Don't act as though they stabbed you in the back.
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
April 12 2010 11:15 GMT
#232
On April 12 2010 19:45 Juicyfruit wrote:
Exactly. Effort is just failing BECAUSE he's under investigation. That tends to screw up your focus.


Maybe because it's true and he can't take his mind off it.
Leenock the Punisher
Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
April 12 2010 11:16 GMT
#233
power outage was an act of sabotage against Flash who wouldn't submit to the betting sites' pressure - i know it!
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 11:18:30
April 12 2010 11:17 GMT
#234
On April 12 2010 20:11 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 20:10 Juicyfruit wrote:
On April 12 2010 20:05 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
On April 12 2010 20:00 ThePhan2m wrote:
If so many progamers get caught, I'm serously giving up. These are people you have a good relation with, and think they do their best to preform, and now they have been backstabing you all this time. BYE proscene


Lol what? Progamers don't owe you a damn thing.


What's your point?


Don't act as though they stabbed you in the back.


Just because they don`t owe me anything, I can`t feel betrayed?

On April 12 2010 20:15 furymonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 19:45 Juicyfruit wrote:
Exactly. Effort is just failing BECAUSE he's under investigation. That tends to screw up your focus.


Maybe because it's true and he can't take his mind off it.


Still doesn't mean he purposely threw away his game TONIGHT does it?
Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
April 12 2010 11:23 GMT
#235
On April 12 2010 20:17 Juicyfruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 20:11 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
On April 12 2010 20:10 Juicyfruit wrote:
On April 12 2010 20:05 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
On April 12 2010 20:00 ThePhan2m wrote:
If so many progamers get caught, I'm serously giving up. These are people you have a good relation with, and think they do their best to preform, and now they have been backstabing you all this time. BYE proscene


Lol what? Progamers don't owe you a damn thing.


What's your point?


Don't act as though they stabbed you in the back.


Just because they don`t owe me anything, I can`t feel betrayed?



You can. You trusted their legitimacy as players and they violated that, but to say they backstabbed (as ThePhan2m did) isn't right at all.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
April 12 2010 11:25 GMT
#236
On April 12 2010 20:23 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 20:17 Juicyfruit wrote:
On April 12 2010 20:11 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
On April 12 2010 20:10 Juicyfruit wrote:
On April 12 2010 20:05 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
On April 12 2010 20:00 ThePhan2m wrote:
If so many progamers get caught, I'm serously giving up. These are people you have a good relation with, and think they do their best to preform, and now they have been backstabing you all this time. BYE proscene


Lol what? Progamers don't owe you a damn thing.


What's your point?


Don't act as though they stabbed you in the back.


Just because they don`t owe me anything, I can`t feel betrayed?



You can. You trusted their legitimacy as players and they violated that, but to say they backstabbed (as ThePhan2m did) isn't right at all.


I think it's a hyperbole.
oovv
Profile Joined March 2008
366 Posts
April 12 2010 11:26 GMT
#237
im starting to think that there is no such a thing like "slump" in a top progaming scene lol
Oops.. i did it again
Strelok
Profile Joined January 2006
Ukraine320 Posts
April 12 2010 11:28 GMT
#238
Well i will give my humble opinion about this situation.
I can understand why second rated progamers do that. They can't earn big money either on winning tournament or having big salaries, so they bet on matches. But think at least a bit why top progamers with big salaries do that?
It's pretty easy to explain. Guys, they are slaves. Slaves of KESPA. Remember the situation with Jaedong last year? In football or any other sport - when player becomes leader in his team - he wants to move to bigger team or get better salary and usually he gets it. Team gets some reward for that ofc. So both teams are satisfied, player is satisfied, everything fine. But those fucking KESPA rules don't give players an opportunity to do that or that opportunity is really miserable. The only real opportunity for player to move between teams is if coaches agree on their level(and they usually agree only if team doesn't need that player). But if they agree - noone takes care if player wants to move himself. Players didn't like that their opinion doesn't matter. They had find the way to earn bigger money themselfes. I think the only person which is really guilty is KESPA or their coaches, but not players themself. Give players more freedom, don't act them as they are slaved and everything will be fine!
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1699 Posts
April 12 2010 11:28 GMT
#239
hope Boxer has nothing to do with this.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
April 12 2010 11:34 GMT
#240
while i can understand why they do it as humans, any respect i had for them as professional gamers is GONE DOWN DRAIN. Fuck everyone who did this to my fauvorite e-sports
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 63 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Big Brain Bouts
16:00
#112
Scarlett vs SpiritLIVE!
Serral vs herO
RotterdaM1356
IndyStarCraft 191
Liquipedia
OSC
15:00
King of the Hill #244
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1356
IndyStarCraft 191
StarCraft: Brood War
Mini 432
Soma 385
actioN 171
Rush 141
Soulkey 125
Sexy 118
Dewaltoss 106
ToSsGirL 102
PianO 88
Aegong 70
[ Show more ]
Hyun 47
Rock 35
Terrorterran 26
Hm[arnc] 16
Noble 9
eros_byul 1
Dota 2
qojqva2425
Counter-Strike
fl0m4592
olofmeister1874
kRYSTAL_32
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King94
Other Games
Gorgc3523
Grubby2071
FrodaN1438
Beastyqt486
ceh9479
ArmadaUGS179
C9.Mang0168
Trikslyr152
KnowMe78
QueenE61
sas.Sziky18
MindelVK14
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV403
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 74
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix11
• HerbMon 3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV558
League of Legends
• Nemesis3056
• TFBlade1507
Other Games
• imaqtpie607
• Shiphtur217
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
9h 17m
CranKy Ducklings
16h 17m
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
17h 17m
IPSL
22h 17m
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
1d 1h
UltrA vs KwarK
Gosudark vs cavapoo
dxtr13 vs HBO
Doodle vs Razz
Patches Events
1d 4h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 6h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 16h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 17h
Ladder Legends
1d 21h
[ Show More ]
BSL
2 days
StRyKeR vs rasowy
Artosis vs Aether
JDConan vs OyAji
Hawk vs izu
IPSL
2 days
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-16
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Escore Tournament S2: W3
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.