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3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
April 12 2010 10:59 GMT
#221
NOT STORK

ANYONE BUT STORK

I'm glad to see no STXers (maybe by.hero?) have been suspected yet. Yes, I realize there was the Hwasin/Calm scandal awhile back, but cheating to help your teammate and cheating for financial gain aren't on the same level for me.
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
April 12 2010 11:00 GMT
#222
If so many progamers get caught, I'm serously giving up. These are people you have a good relation with, and think they do their best to preform, and now they have been backstabing you all this time. BYE proscene
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1781 Posts
April 12 2010 11:02 GMT
#223
ICCUP BAN?^^
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 11:06:00
April 12 2010 11:03 GMT
#224
On April 12 2010 20:00 ThePhan2m wrote:
If so many progamers get caught, I'm serously giving up. These are people you have a good relation with, and think they do their best to preform, and now they have been backstabing you all this time. BYE proscene

Same. Yesterday was sadness, today is indifference. I guess I'm glad this came out during SC2, so we can look towards the American/Euro scene again.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
April 12 2010 11:04 GMT
#225
On April 12 2010 20:02 paulinepain wrote:
ICCUP BAN?^^

"The following players have been caught guilty. As punishment they will be banned from playing SC2. :>"
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
April 12 2010 11:05 GMT
#226
if any of this confirms to be true, it would be very very heartbreaking
BW is back
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 11:11:28
April 12 2010 11:05 GMT
#227
my opinion on the matter holds that as long as neither july, stork, nor nada were involved in these goings-on then ESPORTS can continue untarnished.

also, this potentially allows the "bisu is on paid vacation" story to take on a whole new ironic twist.
Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
April 12 2010 11:05 GMT
#228
On April 12 2010 20:00 ThePhan2m wrote:
If so many progamers get caught, I'm serously giving up. These are people you have a good relation with, and think they do their best to preform, and now they have been backstabing you all this time. BYE proscene


Lol what? Progamers don't owe you a damn thing.
pheus
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia161 Posts
April 12 2010 11:06 GMT
#229
On April 12 2010 19:39 Rekrul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 19:27 pheus wrote:
exactly, you would only ever pay someone to lose if they were favoured to win. If they were going to lose anyway you would just bet against them - no real need to spend more money to guarantee it.


yeah, you're not very smart lol


Haha yeah I realised as I was typing it that I contradicted myself, but then I was like, fuck it, this thread is full of bs flying in every direction anyway, may as well add some more static to the noise
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
April 12 2010 11:10 GMT
#230
On April 12 2010 20:05 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 20:00 ThePhan2m wrote:
If so many progamers get caught, I'm serously giving up. These are people you have a good relation with, and think they do their best to preform, and now they have been backstabing you all this time. BYE proscene


Lol what? Progamers don't owe you a damn thing.


What's your point?
Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
April 12 2010 11:11 GMT
#231
On April 12 2010 20:10 Juicyfruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 20:05 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
On April 12 2010 20:00 ThePhan2m wrote:
If so many progamers get caught, I'm serously giving up. These are people you have a good relation with, and think they do their best to preform, and now they have been backstabing you all this time. BYE proscene


Lol what? Progamers don't owe you a damn thing.


What's your point?


Don't act as though they stabbed you in the back.
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
April 12 2010 11:15 GMT
#232
On April 12 2010 19:45 Juicyfruit wrote:
Exactly. Effort is just failing BECAUSE he's under investigation. That tends to screw up your focus.


Maybe because it's true and he can't take his mind off it.
Leenock the Punisher
Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
April 12 2010 11:16 GMT
#233
power outage was an act of sabotage against Flash who wouldn't submit to the betting sites' pressure - i know it!
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 11:18:30
April 12 2010 11:17 GMT
#234
On April 12 2010 20:11 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 20:10 Juicyfruit wrote:
On April 12 2010 20:05 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
On April 12 2010 20:00 ThePhan2m wrote:
If so many progamers get caught, I'm serously giving up. These are people you have a good relation with, and think they do their best to preform, and now they have been backstabing you all this time. BYE proscene


Lol what? Progamers don't owe you a damn thing.


What's your point?


Don't act as though they stabbed you in the back.


Just because they don`t owe me anything, I can`t feel betrayed?

On April 12 2010 20:15 furymonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 19:45 Juicyfruit wrote:
Exactly. Effort is just failing BECAUSE he's under investigation. That tends to screw up your focus.


Maybe because it's true and he can't take his mind off it.


Still doesn't mean he purposely threw away his game TONIGHT does it?
Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
April 12 2010 11:23 GMT
#235
On April 12 2010 20:17 Juicyfruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 20:11 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
On April 12 2010 20:10 Juicyfruit wrote:
On April 12 2010 20:05 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
On April 12 2010 20:00 ThePhan2m wrote:
If so many progamers get caught, I'm serously giving up. These are people you have a good relation with, and think they do their best to preform, and now they have been backstabing you all this time. BYE proscene


Lol what? Progamers don't owe you a damn thing.


What's your point?


Don't act as though they stabbed you in the back.


Just because they don`t owe me anything, I can`t feel betrayed?



You can. You trusted their legitimacy as players and they violated that, but to say they backstabbed (as ThePhan2m did) isn't right at all.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
April 12 2010 11:25 GMT
#236
On April 12 2010 20:23 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 20:17 Juicyfruit wrote:
On April 12 2010 20:11 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
On April 12 2010 20:10 Juicyfruit wrote:
On April 12 2010 20:05 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
On April 12 2010 20:00 ThePhan2m wrote:
If so many progamers get caught, I'm serously giving up. These are people you have a good relation with, and think they do their best to preform, and now they have been backstabing you all this time. BYE proscene


Lol what? Progamers don't owe you a damn thing.


What's your point?


Don't act as though they stabbed you in the back.


Just because they don`t owe me anything, I can`t feel betrayed?



You can. You trusted their legitimacy as players and they violated that, but to say they backstabbed (as ThePhan2m did) isn't right at all.


I think it's a hyperbole.
oovv
Profile Joined March 2008
366 Posts
April 12 2010 11:26 GMT
#237
im starting to think that there is no such a thing like "slump" in a top progaming scene lol
Oops.. i did it again
Strelok
Profile Joined January 2006
Ukraine320 Posts
April 12 2010 11:28 GMT
#238
Well i will give my humble opinion about this situation.
I can understand why second rated progamers do that. They can't earn big money either on winning tournament or having big salaries, so they bet on matches. But think at least a bit why top progamers with big salaries do that?
It's pretty easy to explain. Guys, they are slaves. Slaves of KESPA. Remember the situation with Jaedong last year? In football or any other sport - when player becomes leader in his team - he wants to move to bigger team or get better salary and usually he gets it. Team gets some reward for that ofc. So both teams are satisfied, player is satisfied, everything fine. But those fucking KESPA rules don't give players an opportunity to do that or that opportunity is really miserable. The only real opportunity for player to move between teams is if coaches agree on their level(and they usually agree only if team doesn't need that player). But if they agree - noone takes care if player wants to move himself. Players didn't like that their opinion doesn't matter. They had find the way to earn bigger money themselfes. I think the only person which is really guilty is KESPA or their coaches, but not players themself. Give players more freedom, don't act them as they are slaved and everything will be fine!
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1781 Posts
April 12 2010 11:28 GMT
#239
hope Boxer has nothing to do with this.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
April 12 2010 11:34 GMT
#240
while i can understand why they do it as humans, any respect i had for them as professional gamers is GONE DOWN DRAIN. Fuck everyone who did this to my fauvorite e-sports
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