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PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
April 12 2010 11:37 GMT
#241
On April 12 2010 20:11 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 20:10 Juicyfruit wrote:
On April 12 2010 20:05 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
On April 12 2010 20:00 ThePhan2m wrote:
If so many progamers get caught, I'm serously giving up. These are people you have a good relation with, and think they do their best to preform, and now they have been backstabing you all this time. BYE proscene


Lol what? Progamers don't owe you a damn thing.


What's your point?


Don't act as though they stabbed you in the back.

no, but they stabbed the competitive nature of the game in the back, and thats all that matters.


if the extent of this is true, its going to bring down Brood War, and kESPA with it.
theramstoss
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada242 Posts
April 12 2010 11:38 GMT
#242
On April 12 2010 20:28 paulinepain wrote:
hope Boxer has nothing to do with this.


Oh Jesus Christ no.

OK EVERYBODY STOP. We know nothing for sure. Yes some people are probably guilty but can we stop mentioning random names. It is one thing if 6 players are involved and another thing if 20 players are involved. Let's not jump to conclusions and hope for the best, as sad as this is.
quote? what quote?
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66359 Posts
April 12 2010 11:38 GMT
#243
no.. this can't be happening.
POGGERS
Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2575 Posts
April 12 2010 11:39 GMT
#244
I am telling EVERYONE right now that LighT was paid to lose vs PerfectMan. I bet 10,000 gosubet minerals on this match and LighT lost.
Wishing you well.
Faranth
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
933 Posts
April 12 2010 11:43 GMT
#245
--- Nuked ---
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
April 12 2010 11:43 GMT
#246
Call me a bad person or whatever else you want but I'd actually be glad if MJY really did this after his "comeback". (the post-"I will destroy everyone in 2009"-era)

The reason is simple. I'd prefer having back a kickass sAviOr that made a mistake (and hopefully regrets it + learns from it) over having a sAviOr that really lost most of his skills and will possibly never make a true comeback. (The optimum obviously being a non-involved MJY that finally gets his shit together and makes a real comeback!)
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
April 12 2010 11:43 GMT
#247
Question: Any chance JAedong is involved? His recent ZvZ failures and forgetting consume in that game on matchpoint vs Flash seems really odd
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
JDforever
Profile Joined December 2009
China69 Posts
April 12 2010 11:46 GMT
#248
WTF,I don't believe the list! You tell me that 3 of the big4 are under investigation,are you kidding me?!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love Frank
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66359 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 11:54:18
April 12 2010 11:46 GMT
#249
On April 12 2010 20:43 SubtleArt wrote:
Question: Any chance JAedong is involved? His recent ZvZ failures and forgetting consume in that game on matchpoint vs Flash seems really odd

But does that make his MSL win (POWER OUTAGE or not) odd? I don't think any of recent players would be involved, especially Jaedong and Flash.

Just saw the list. Sigh. Omg. That list is insane. I just refuse to believe the whole list.
POGGERS
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
April 12 2010 11:46 GMT
#250
Sorry but random speculations at this point are just really annoying - makes things a lot worse than they already are.
Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
April 12 2010 11:47 GMT
#251
On April 12 2010 20:43 SubtleArt wrote:
Question: Any chance JAedong is involved? His recent ZvZ failures and forgetting consume in that game on matchpoint vs Flash seems really odd


He was on the fabled list, so yeah, there is a chance.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
April 12 2010 11:48 GMT
#252
On April 12 2010 20:28 3D.Strelok wrote:
Well i will give my humble opinion about this situation.
I can understand why second rated progamers do that. They can't earn big money either on winning tournament or having big salaries, so they bet on matches. But think at least a bit why top progamers with big salaries do that?
It's pretty easy to explain. Guys, they are slaves. Slaves of KESPA. Remember the situation with Jaedong last year? In football or any other sport - when player becomes leader in his team - he wants to move to bigger team or get better salary and usually he gets it. Team gets some reward for that ofc. So both teams are satisfied, player is satisfied, everything fine. But those fucking KESPA rules don't give players an opportunity to do that or that opportunity is really miserable. The only real opportunity for player to move between teams is if coaches agree on their level(and they usually agree only if team doesn't need that player). But if they agree - noone takes care if player wants to move himself. Players didn't like that their opinion doesn't matter. They had find the way to earn bigger money themselfes. I think the only person which is really guilty is KESPA or their coaches, but not players themself. Give players more freedom, don't act them as they are slaved and everything will be fine!


YES!!!!!!!!! exactly
Kong John
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark1020 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 11:53:29
April 12 2010 11:51 GMT
#253
This is awful. I cant believe sAviOr would do that, think how terrible it would be if he threw the finals to Bisu... That would suck so hard. That final was one of the most epic finals ever... hope to god that isn't the case.

edit: I guess what Strelok said is true but it still sucks balls.
This is real life, where nerds must battle!
bbq
Profile Joined January 2010
United States49 Posts
April 12 2010 11:55 GMT
#254
This is all going according to Blizzard's plan. As a result of their fallout with KeSPA, they had a backup plan, "bribing" the progamers to leak fake information saying they were bribed to throw matches. Blizzard had no choice but to take action to help players transition from BW to SC2, because the Korean pro BW scene would never die if left by itself. It's the perfect game. Blizzard knew this and had to sabotage everything to make profit off of SC2. Shit's a conspiracy.
MiraMax
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany532 Posts
April 12 2010 12:06 GMT
#255
Lighten up, guys! Now all we need is a confirmed case of doping and Starcraft has finally arrived in the wonderful world of today's real sports!

I thus forecast: Starcraft is going to be Olympic by 2020!

But seriously: It really shows how important/profitable Esports have become and just comes with the territory, I guess. Shame on, Saviour though (if he is involved).
ionlyplayPROtoss
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada573 Posts
April 12 2010 12:10 GMT
#256
this explains why savior was sucking after his reign
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
April 12 2010 12:12 GMT
#257
On April 12 2010 21:10 ionlyplayPROtoss wrote:
this explains why savior was sucking after his reign

No it doesn't.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 12 2010 12:13 GMT
#258
On April 12 2010 20:39 Khol wrote:
I am telling EVERYONE right now that LighT was paid to lose vs PerfectMan. I bet 10,000 gosubet minerals on this match and LighT lost.


Light isn't even fucking on the rumor list, no MBC player is.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
April 12 2010 12:13 GMT
#259
On April 12 2010 20:46 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 20:43 SubtleArt wrote:
Question: Any chance JAedong is involved? His recent ZvZ failures and forgetting consume in that game on matchpoint vs Flash seems really odd

But does that make his MSL win (POWER OUTAGE or not) odd? I don't think any of recent players would be involved, especially Jaedong and Flash.

Just saw the list. Sigh. Omg. That list is insane. I just refuse to believe the whole list.


Where is this list?
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
April 12 2010 12:14 GMT
#260
On April 12 2010 21:10 ionlyplayPROtoss wrote:
this explains why savior was sucking after his reign


I don't think he offered to commit career suicide
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
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