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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
April 12 2010 10:23 GMT
#201
Flash owns so hard he can probably guarantee making money betting ON himself rather than against
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 10:40:49
April 12 2010 10:23 GMT
#202
On April 12 2010 19:21 We Are Here wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 19:16 FireGuyX wrote:
I wonder if programers got paid losing to Flash.
flash would easily be favourite over most if not all gamers



Yeah you're right it would be the other way around, it would be Flash dropping games if he was illegally gambling.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
barth
Profile Joined March 2008
Ireland1272 Posts
April 12 2010 10:23 GMT
#203
I cant wait for an official statement about who`s guilty. My world will be crushed if Bisu, Stork, Effort andf Jaedong took part in it. Hopefully not
"Somebody you are talking to disappears mid sentence, and the universe shoots you because you talked to someone that wasn`t there." - MasterOfChaos
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
April 12 2010 10:25 GMT
#204
On April 12 2010 19:16 FireGuyX wrote:
I wonder if programers got paid losing to Flash.

That doesn't make sense. You wouldn't make money from those odds.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
pheus
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia161 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 10:28:30
April 12 2010 10:27 GMT
#205
exactly, you would only ever pay someone to lose if they were favoured to win. If they were going to lose anyway you would just bet against them - no real need to spend more money to guarantee it.
Chunkybuddha
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada347 Posts
April 12 2010 10:28 GMT
#206
This doesn't really shock me. With any sport there is money, and when there is money there is cheating, lying, and scamming. Just because they're a bunch of nerds doesn't mean they are golden.
USER WAS SEXUALLY ABUSED FOR THIS POST.
pheus
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia161 Posts
April 12 2010 10:30 GMT
#207
On April 12 2010 19:28 Chunkybuddha wrote:
This doesn't really shock me. With any sport there is money, and when there is money there is cheating, lying, and scamming. Just because they're a bunch of nerds doesn't mean they are golden.


not to mention they are overworked and under appreciated. That's usually a recipe for sabotage/pursuit of self interest in any job.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 12 2010 10:33 GMT
#208
+ Show Spoiler +
Effort vs Hogil in today's games. There is no way that game wasn't thrown.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1566 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 10:37:02
April 12 2010 10:33 GMT
#209
Lol that suck, Jaedong didn't seem too bothered when he lost 0/2 vs Flash at OSL, and with a stupid rush bunker at SECOND GAME ON HBR WTF, LIKE HE DIDN'T EXPECT IT?!!!
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
Aim Here
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Scotland672 Posts
April 12 2010 10:35 GMT
#210
On April 12 2010 19:33 SuperArc wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Effort vs Hogil in today's games. There is no way that game wasn't thrown.


The 300 tl.netters who put Effort in their antiteam are currently under investigation by Korean authorities.
cunninglinguists
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States925 Posts
April 12 2010 10:36 GMT
#211
On April 12 2010 19:33 SuperArc wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Effort vs Hogil in today's games. There is no way that game wasn't thrown.

I hope this is sarcasm.
Kwanroller
Profile Joined April 2010
Afghanistan459 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 10:39:26
April 12 2010 10:37 GMT
#212
On April 12 2010 19:33 SuperArc wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Effort vs Hogil in today's games. There is no way that game wasn't thrown.


Seriously, even if he is "innocent", I refuse to believe he is. That was definitely thrown no doubt about it. A D level player could win that game by A moving.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
April 12 2010 10:39 GMT
#213
On April 12 2010 19:27 pheus wrote:
exactly, you would only ever pay someone to lose if they were favoured to win. If they were going to lose anyway you would just bet against them - no real need to spend more money to guarantee it.


yeah, you're not very smart lol
why so 진지해?
cunninglinguists
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States925 Posts
April 12 2010 10:44 GMT
#214
On April 12 2010 19:37 Kwanroller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 19:33 SuperArc wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Effort vs Hogil in today's games. There is no way that game wasn't thrown.


Seriously, even if he is "innocent", I refuse to believe he is. That was definitely thrown no doubt about it. A D level player could win that game by A moving.

Except I don't think anyone is stupid enough to continue match-fixing AFTER public allegations have risen regarding it and you get put under investigation.

Seriously people, stop attributing every stupid loss to match-fixing, especially now as I suspect NO ONE is doing it at the present due to the ongoing investigation.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 10:47:45
April 12 2010 10:45 GMT
#215
On April 12 2010 19:27 pheus wrote:
exactly, you would only ever pay someone to lose if they were favoured to win. If they were going to lose anyway you would just bet against them - no real need to spend more money to guarantee it.


Sometimes you still would.

On April 12 2010 19:44 cunninglinguists wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 19:37 Kwanroller wrote:
On April 12 2010 19:33 SuperArc wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Effort vs Hogil in today's games. There is no way that game wasn't thrown.


Seriously, even if he is "innocent", I refuse to believe he is. That was definitely thrown no doubt about it. A D level player could win that game by A moving.

Except I don't think anyone is stupid enough to continue match-fixing AFTER public allegations have risen regarding it and you get put under investigation.

Seriously people, stop attributing every stupid loss to match-fixing, especially now as I suspect NO ONE is doing it at the present due to the ongoing investigation.


Exactly. Effort is just failing BECAUSE he's under investigation. That tends to screw up your focus.
gaggar
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada118 Posts
April 12 2010 10:52 GMT
#216
It should be noted that from the deleted post, the poster mentioned that gamblers will not rig the game if the betting ratio is near 1.

They only rig it if the ratio promises at least twice the investment.

So games between top players are likely not rigged. (e.g. flash vs jd)

It is also worth mentioning the betting ratio of 3.3 revolution (savior vs. bisu) was 17X according to the same poster.

I haven't saved the pic so I'm just typing off my memory now.
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
April 12 2010 10:53 GMT
#217
So THAT'S why savior slumped...
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
Saugardas
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
121 Posts
April 12 2010 10:54 GMT
#218
Well considering the fact that these guys have to sacrifice their youth which is most people's time of their life, I guess it is no surprise.
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
April 12 2010 10:58 GMT
#219
On April 12 2010 16:19 Atrioc wrote:

For example, even long after 3 hatch muta --> hive was considered outclassed by 2 hat muta, i would find myself doing it anyway because my mind was so saturated with flashes of sAviOr games where it would beautifully win at the right times that i could resist. I'm a huge jaedong fan as well, but in a way that is hard to describe i never felt like i could copy Jaedong's builds - he seemed like he was playing a whole different game with his mechanis, but sAviOr, when he won, always seemed like he had solved Broodwar and was letting me in on the secret.

By the way, that was beautifully said, man.
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
April 12 2010 10:59 GMT
#220
On April 12 2010 19:16 FireGuyX wrote:
I wonder if programers got paid losing to Flash.

Whens the last time someone was favorite over flash?
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
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