Not really. On maps where cliffs play a role less important than that on LT, 3 fact vults allow for map control, contain and the ability to expand earlier for the vulture player vs builds that allow for fewer units. I think 2 fact Vult-->tank-->expo(+acad) is not a bad way to go vs a 3 fac vult build. Just get siege and move out carefully about when the expo is ready.

actioN

Denmark229 Posts

February 23 2004 04:36 GMT

fast bc.

FroZZoR

China925 Posts

February 23 2004 04:38 GMT

wraiths(if they don't build their rax in center for early scout)
2 fact gol is ok
or build more vults are your only choices

DO NOT
go 2 fact gol w/starport
or any tank build

Waxangel

United States33715 Posts

February 23 2004 04:54 GMT

Progame TV tells me:

More vults

or

2 fact start, make vults and switch to gol at a magical timing where you won't get run over by vults

SoL.Origin

Argentina2400 Posts

February 23 2004 06:58 GMT

#10

1 fac tank + 1 port wraith, build cc at exp so he cant place mines (LT)

GoDHovZ

United States1869 Posts

February 23 2004 07:06 GMT

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x[ReaPeR]x

United States3447 Posts

February 23 2004 07:14 GMT

#12

If you go Wraiths against Vults your opponent would more than likely just send Vults into your base and kill SCV's faster than you can kill the Vults.

GoDHovZ

United States1869 Posts

February 23 2004 07:23 GMT

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baal

10708 Posts

February 23 2004 07:29 GMT

#14

i think 2 fact pumping a few early vults on ramp and switch to gols, preferably get Academy for scan quickly, when switching to gols you may want an SCV ro repair vults over ramp so he wont get in your base, and the most important, the timing to attack, since he may try to switch to Tanks to stop the gols you MUST attack before he has enough to stop your attack, you wont be able to climb his ramp is he is defending but you will stop him for expanding while you do, so he will have to wait for a few tanks to expand.

GoDHovZ

United States1869 Posts

February 23 2004 07:56 GMT

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DooMeR

United States1519 Posts

February 23 2004 07:57 GMT

#16

if ur micro is good just make 3 fac vults also --
that is... on a map with few cliffs. if u got cliffs just make a couple vults till u can get gols and start dropping :D!

x[ReaPeR]x

United States3447 Posts

February 23 2004 09:18 GMT

#17

On February 23 2004 16:23 GoDHovZ wrote:
if u go wraith su have to wall in, and if u do your enemy will suspect them. thats why maps like gamea and nos suck tvt, cuz it removes all strategy. which is also why veg likes them because he has no brain

Nostalgia I agree, I don't find Gaema very limiting though, I know Vultures are good on that map but it has a gas expo so it's not too limiting.

wishterran

United States1045 Posts

February 23 2004 09:35 GMT

#18

either build more vults to gain an advantage or wall and tank - secure expo but be careful not to let your unit count drop to low or he will contain you..

hope this helps

baal

10708 Posts

February 23 2004 09:41 GMT

#19

On February 23 2004 16:56 GoDHovZ wrote:
u will get contaiend by tanks and mines b4 you can do anything to stop it

i disagree Hovz, its a 3 FACT vults, not 2 facts, switching to Tanks take a lil bit more and i said fast academy with a few goliaths the early vults and the academy you can quickly get ot of your base where most mines are and then the second bunch of mines after you came out of you base would be defending his possible expansion, if he has an expansion he doesnt have money enough to switch to tanks + siege mode.