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baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10708 Posts
February 23 2004 16:18 GMT
#41
no actually you are supoused to scan your choke with the initial 50 and when you come to his base you should be near 50 again, its matter of timing, a very very good timing would own 3 fact vults badly.
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FroZZoR
Profile Joined October 2002
China925 Posts
February 23 2004 16:34 GMT
#42
come to his base?
he can place mines in the middle...
u don't need scan to kill mines if u build pure goliath...
There can be only one
Beast_Bg
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria1623 Posts
February 23 2004 18:20 GMT
#43
"DO NOT
go 2 fact gol w/starport"

I don't agree, I would go exactly 2 fac gols(really early fac 11 gas and on 200/100,with machine shop ready for future plans ) and rally them from the start in front of my base(and maybe even close to his) so that when the vulcs come they won't be able to lay mines.When I get like 6 I would start a Starport and eventually make tanks.If he has gone 3 fac vulc/tanks he will be VERY vulnerable to 2 dropships of tanks/gols at some point(after you have 2 tanks at position of course).
If you make no mistakes 3 fac vulcs sux.
The only map I can think of that is good for that strat is Martian Cross , but it can be countered there as well.
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baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10708 Posts
February 23 2004 18:29 GMT
#44
On February 24 2004 01:34 FroZZoR wrote:
come to his base?
he can place mines in the middle...
u don't need scan to kill mines if u build pure goliath...


yes but in the middle would be minimal amounts of vults that can easily be killed by the gols and a couple of vults you are supoused to have.

You are confusing 2 fact vult vs 3 fact vult, even if gols ownz mines there are toooooo many mines if its a 3fact vult thats why scan is a good option IMO.
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iN_ReD
Profile Joined February 2004
Canada9 Posts
February 23 2004 22:52 GMT
#45
Scan is not important, with enough gols you can carefully move out with "attack & stop" whoring. If it's 3 fact then a safely made gol drop later on is fine as you can drop before theres tanks. If it's 2 fact vults with double grades same thing applies accept you need only a few gols before tanks, elsewise he'lls just start pumping tanks before you can catch up. Most players seem to go standard gol drop build nowadays so I would skip trying vulture cuteness and go for tanks and own.
GoDHovZ
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1869 Posts
February 23 2004 23:00 GMT
#46
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FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
February 23 2004 23:49 GMT
#47
2fact goli seems reasonable if you don't want to go same strat +_+
GoDHovZ
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1869 Posts
February 24 2004 00:16 GMT
#48
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Konni
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany3044 Posts
February 24 2004 00:20 GMT
#49
i like good comments so plz shut up baal & hovz
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
February 24 2004 00:30 GMT
#50
2 fact 1 port with quick drop/mines. Sounds like it will work.
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GoDHovZ
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1869 Posts
February 24 2004 00:40 GMT
#51
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FroZZoR
Profile Joined October 2002
China925 Posts
February 24 2004 00:49 GMT
#52
you are all idiots
any dropship strat is extremely stupid vs 3 fact vult on a map like gowon, if played right they should be able to defend and set up on your cliff, then it's gg
There can be only one
Neddi
Profile Joined February 2004
Germany2 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-02-24 01:10:33
February 24 2004 01:09 GMT
#53
Inspired by this thread I wanted to try 3 fact vultures vs Terra on LT

Well quite funny game. I left, but I won cause of exactly ONE wraith :D



TerravsTerra

Hi ~ -.-
Aukai
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1183 Posts
February 24 2004 04:15 GMT
#54
On February 24 2004 03:20 Beast_Bg wrote:
"DO NOT
go 2 fact gol w/starport"

I don't agree, I would go exactly 2 fac gols(really early fac 11 gas and on 200/100,with machine shop ready for future plans ) and rally them from the start in front of my base(and maybe even close to his) so that when the vulcs come they won't be able to lay mines.When I get like 6 I would start a Starport and eventually make tanks.If he has gone 3 fac vulc/tanks he will be VERY vulnerable to 2 dropships of tanks/gols at some point(after you have 2 tanks at position of course).
If you make no mistakes 3 fac vulcs sux.
The only map I can think of that is good for that strat is Martian Cross , but it can be countered there as well.


They can have mines + vuls before your gols, so I don't see this working...

Thanks for everyone who gave the good advice I was looking for, hovz and frozzor in particular.
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AutumnLight
Profile Joined July 2003
Ukraine2488 Posts
February 24 2004 04:27 GMT
#55
There was this rep where it opposed Xellos to Androide..great vult action, I still have both reps if I can find them.
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baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10708 Posts
February 24 2004 06:29 GMT
#56
i insist, when you say you dont need scan you are thinking in 2 fact vults, 3 fact vults theres so many many mines you cannot walk withouth being harmed even with goliaths.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28876 Posts
February 24 2004 06:34 GMT
#57
baal if you have enough goliaths you won't lose shit to mines.
unless like 12 pop up on the exact same spot, but if that happens they're likely to trap eachother and they will often be wasted on one unit.
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taRo_leE
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada102 Posts
February 24 2004 07:29 GMT
#58
blitzkrieg!
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SpuniasauR
Profile Joined September 2003
Australia1500 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-02-24 08:17:57
February 24 2004 08:14 GMT
#59
gawd. listen to frozzor and waxy. 2fact, u got some vision on his base at start so u should know if hes goin 1 or 2 fact. in that case, grab 2 fact, vult rush and if u get the rax in his main and see how many (or u can tell ur bein outnumbered in vult v. vult) then u gotta switch to goli. in a more open map u might need to stick to vult a lil longer or else ur golis will be constantly sweeping mines and vults out from behind ur min line and buildings... on a cliff its easy to keep em out, but in the open vults will squeeze between all nooks and crannies. so golis might have a hard time for a while till uve massed alot of them.

by which time a good terraner will expand and maybe start up serious drop or tank push w/ turret outside ur base...

eh so the moral of the story is... either switch to goli nice and early to mass them fast orrrr out vulture him. when i c a guy goin hard out vulture i often proxy fac somewhere. on LT its great pop one tank out and plonk him in ur ramp goons v. vult style, then econ pilage with 3-4 vults from the proxy. its all up 2 ur own style of play.
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baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10708 Posts
February 24 2004 08:28 GMT
#60
On February 24 2004 15:34 Liquid`Drone wrote:
baal if you have enough goliaths you won't lose shit to mines.
unless like 12 pop up on the exact same spot, but if that happens they're likely to trap eachother and they will often be wasted on one unit.


yes but im saying to come out with less goliaths to catch him before he has siegue tanks, so yes you can get out with enough goliaths but he should have tanks defending at that time.
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