Reality (Ret/Progaming) - Page 12

On December 28 2009 13:25 Waxangel wrote:
the post was too long, but I skimmed through it a little.

A bunch of white people generalizing about Koreans, I'm a little bit amused.

On December 28 2009 12:54 toopham wrote:
All you guys are fuking bandwagon jumpers.
Rekrul post something bad about estro and the koreans and about ret and you all agree.

When I posted something bad about estro and how badly they treated ret and how Estro coaching suck balls, motherfuckers tell me I should "blog it" or that I am very wrong and shouldn't be saying those things against Estro because they've done so much for foreigners.

NeverGG even tell me to watch what I say because Estro coaches lurk this forum.
And then I get my thread closed because I am a nobody making a post.

It seems like the only way you can make a thread around here is if you're well known.

it's just fucking sad.

On December 28 2009 13:25 Waxangel wrote:
the post was too long, but I skimmed through it a little.

A bunch of white people generalizing about Koreans, I'm a little bit amused.

On December 28 2009 10:23 lac29 wrote:


I disagree ... if anyone else made this post they'd be banned.

On December 28 2009 13:37 Mystlord wrote:
I thought the post was funny and interesting. I didn't know that anyone actually thought that Korea wasn't a completely rigid society, but to characterize it as slavery might be a bit extreme... Though this is Rekrul so I just tone down everything he says by a level and it should be accurate.


Go on then, offer your opinion.

On December 28 2009 12:54 toopham wrote:
All you guys are fuking bandwagon jumpers.
Rekrul post something bad about estro and the koreans and about ret and you all agree.

When I posted something bad about estro and how badly they treated ret and how Estro coaching suck balls, motherfuckers tell me I should "blog it" or that I am very wrong and shouldn't be saying those things against Estro because they've done so much for foreigners.

NeverGG even tell me to watch what I say because Estro coaches lurk this forum.
And then I get my thread closed because I am a nobody making a post.

It seems like the only way you can make a thread around here is if you're well known.

it's just fucking sad.

On December 28 2009 14:06 TeWy wrote:


"Thou shall respect forum veterans".


It is quite obvious, and it has even been proofed, that practicing too much a real sport is a bad thing. The physical drawbacks are obvious to everyone.

E-sports induce some physical backwards too, but most of them are psychological, they're not obvious and they're perceived as a personal weakness despite the fact that the neurotransmitters involved are the same as those involved in a strain for example...
It gives the illusion that "the more practice you can get the better it is", that is incorrect, that is just plain wrong... Sure for some players it is almost true but not for everyone, most of them are actually underperforming when fallowing a strict schedule and excessive training hours.
Notice how the CS WMF team can't hold a handle to FnATIC and SK gaming, or how Moon who won nearly 300 000 dollars of prize monney in 2007-2008 didn't win any single tournament soon after he joined WMF.

Wtf guys... practicing 10-12 hours a day 7days/7 ? Is that necessarily better than 8 hours a day with a day off ? No wonder why 95% of the SC pros suddenly crash after 2 years at the top…

Be all certain that SK, MYM, WE (chinese), MOUZ, FNATIC, mb even EG, will all have a prestigious SC2 squad soon after its release. Be also sure that a lot of foreign tournaments/leagues will be created, and I know that it might sound crazy to some of you, but they will allow you to say "gl hf" along with VV without disqualifying you.

Koreans are the pionneers of the E-sport, that is a fact, but their way of adapting it is tightly linked to their culture and the stupidity of their E-sport managers (aka kespa).
Their way of dealing with it is not a model that we should blindly copy.

On December 28 2009 13:51 Athos wrote:
This is a great post but I feel as if I've read it before. Oh wait, it's because I have. Rekrul pretty much posted these exact same truths almost one year ago when Nony left Korea. To me it seems we want to forget and pray that the next foreigner will be the one to defy gravity and make it in the Korean scene. It's a vicious cycle, and as long as foreigners keep coming over, history is doomed to repeat itself, as usual.

On December 28 2009 12:54 toopham wrote:
All you guys are fuking bandwagon jumpers.
Rekrul post something bad about estro and the koreans and about ret and you all agree.

When I posted something bad about estro and how badly they treated ret and how Estro coaching suck balls, motherfuckers tell me I should "blog it" or that I am very wrong and shouldn't be saying those things against Estro because they've done so much for foreigners.

NeverGG even tell me to watch what I say because Estro coaches lurk this forum.
And then I get my thread closed because I am a nobody making a post.

It seems like the only way you can make a thread around here is if you're well known.

it's just fucking sad.

On December 28 2009 14:05 HonestTea wrote:



Basically Wax is amused (as am I) because people think they know Korea, but they only know Korea as much as they know the progaming scene (which is to say, Zero), yet they feel like sharing their opinions anyway.

On December 28 2009 14:14 Saturnize wrote:
This is what happens with all sports thought, if you want to play professionally you have SLIM AND I MEAN VERY slim odds of making it to the big time. And i just have to say that when he said SC skills won't transfer to SC2 i almost stopped reading the post :\ Obviously if you started playing starcraft for 5 years then go out and buy warcraft 3 you're not a completely lost when it comes to the fundamentals of the game.