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DukeTheNuke
Germany26 Posts
When I hear commentators talk about him, it sounds to me like its a running gag like he was the "Chuck Norris" of ProGaming who just "crushes everything which moves". Amirite or what? probs to all the aiur protectors :-D - the [no]ob.toss aka WILD_Weasel | ||
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Whiplash
United States2928 Posts
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
He is called Mantoss for his style of play, particularly PvT if I remember correctly (although he used Mantoss-esque tricks in PvZ as well). He would charge in with seemingly suicidal numbers without fear and would break contains and pushes perfectly when others would be too scared to move out. He has also always been the more handsome progamer, with a manly physique/face. Or at least that's what I thought was the reason. | ||
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Highways
Australia6103 Posts
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Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On November 19 2009 00:56 heyoka wrote: I have a similar question, why is Anytime called Sashin Toss? Sashin means Death God, a nickname that got latched onto him after his match against Yellow on R-Point* where he did a zealot/DT rush strategy against Zerg and made it work due to his micro. Because of the unexpected brutality of the strategy, and how effective the Dark Templar were (had many many kills), he was nicknamed Death God Toss. Or at least that's what I think it is. EDIT: R-Point, thanks! | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6635 Posts
On November 19 2009 00:58 fanatacist wrote: Sashin means Death God, a nickname that got latched onto him after his match against Yellow on Python or LT (I think the latter) where he did a zealot/DT rush strategy against Zerg and made it work due to his micro. Because of the unexpected brutality of the strategy, and how effective the Dark Templar were (had many many kills), he was nicknamed Death God Toss. Or at least that's what I think it is. I believe that game took place on R-Point. | ||
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horang3
United States261 Posts
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On November 19 2009 00:59 jello_biafra wrote: I believe that game took place on R-Point. I didn't see the game itself but I saw the highlight of it, and Yellow's natural seemed like an LT or Python natural at 6. Don't remember R-Point that well so you might be right. | ||
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DukeTheNuke
Germany26 Posts
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On November 19 2009 01:03 [no]ob.toss wrote: hahahahaha i don't question him, I just wanna know the myth! :-D When responding to people, click on the Quote link on the top right of their post. | ||
ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
Oh young man, I could write a book on this topic but for your sake I will be concise. Take a look back at past OSL starting groups and tell me, when there were entire tournaments with only one qualified Protoss player, who was the one holding it down? He will always be the Mantoss. | ||
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DukeTheNuke
Germany26 Posts
[no]ob.forum.user | ||
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wishbones
Canada2600 Posts
On November 19 2009 00:59 jello_biafra wrote: I believe that game took place on R-Point. omg i forogot about R-Point, it makes me wanna play on it now. | ||
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DukeTheNuke
Germany26 Posts
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On November 19 2009 01:06 [no]ob.toss wrote: fail Don't make posts like this either, if you want to stay for a while at TL. Also, you can edit previous posts. Leave the [ QUOTE ] tags where they need to be after pressing quote. | ||
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BloodDrunK
Bangladesh2767 Posts
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DukeTheNuke
Germany26 Posts
On November 19 2009 01:08 fanatacist wrote: Don't make posts like this either, if you want to stay for a while at TL. Also, you can edit previous posts. Leave the [ QUOTE ] tags where they need to be after pressing quote. y I figured it out on myself after failing in first try. thx anyway. but btw, where did u lost ur humor? sry kick me now if u need to but this is just ridicilous. | ||
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DukeTheNuke
Germany26 Posts
On November 19 2009 01:15 BloodDrunK wrote: simple.he's a man and plays toss. that made me lolz. | ||
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lightman
United States731 Posts
On November 19 2009 00:50 [no]ob.toss wrote: Topic name says mostly what I wanna know. Where did he get that nickname from? When I hear commentators talk about him, it sounds to me like its a running gag like he was the "Chuck Norris" of ProGaming who just "crushes everything which moves". Amirite or what? probs to all the aiur protectors :-D - the [no]ob.toss aka WILD_Weasel this was in 2002 or 2001. it all started when in OSL Reach and Garimto were the only protoss players against the then sick field of Terrans and Zergs, including yellow, boxer, jinnam, hot, chojja, sync, the marine, etc.... Garimto was a huge thing, and Reach was well ,,, some toss.... basically nobody knew who he was. at least I didn't. The field of Ts and Zs was so powerful Garimto got clobbered 0-3 in the 1st round, leaving Reach as the only protoss in the entire tournament against 14 T and Z. Reach being well, the underdog, the who the hell is this guy, this guy is gonna get his ass handed to him, etc.... So Reach stormed all of them including Yellow (the 2nd huge favorite to win) in the Semifinals and in the finals he basically kicked Boxer's ass so badly in the finals, even winning against him in two island maps that were heavely T favored ...... I don't remember the name, was it Forbidden zone ?....anyway that was unthinkable at that time.... a P winning vs a T in an island map that is. so well, Reach became The Man, hence Mantoss. a bit less known, for accomplishing all of this he was also nicknamed as Herotoss. | ||
Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
It's a foreigner thing. | ||
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JohnBall
Brazil1272 Posts
On November 19 2009 01:17 [no]ob.toss wrote: y I figured it out on myself after failing in first try. thx anyway. but btw, where did u lost ur humor? sry kick me now if u need to but this is just ridicilous. Assuming "ridicilous" is a mix of ridiculous and delicious? | ||
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distant_voice
Germany2521 Posts
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RaGe
Belgium9947 Posts
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Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On November 19 2009 01:17 [no]ob.toss wrote: y I figured it out on myself after failing in first try. thx anyway. but btw, where did u lost ur humor? sry kick me now if u need to but this is just ridicilous. Just saying "fail" in a post is not humorous. Period. I'm not a moderator or anything, I was just giving you advice on how to lengthen your stay at TL by practicing good posting. I'm not going to kick you or whatever, and I doubt anyone else will. | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On November 19 2009 01:29 lightman wrote: this was in 2002 or 2001. it all started when in OSL Reach and Garimto were the only protoss players against the then sick field of Terrans and Zergs, including yellow, boxer, jinnam, hot, chojja, sync, the marine, etc.... Garimto got clobbered 0-3 in the 1st round, leaving Reach as the only protoss in the entire tournament against 14 T and Z. So Reach stormed all of them including Yellow (the 2nd huge favorite to win) in the Semifinals and in the finals he basically kicked Boxer's ass so badly in the finals, even winning against him in two island maps that were heavely T favored ...... I don't remember the name, was it Forbidden zone ?....anyway that was unthinkable at that time.... a P winning vs a T in an island map that is. so well, Reach became The Man, hence Mantoss. a bit less known, for accomplishing all of this he was also nicknamed as Herotoss. The series came down to 3-2 iirc in favor of Reach, last game being on Neo Forbidden Zone. Great game. | ||
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lightman
United States731 Posts
btw just curious are you really from Angola ? Garimto was a huge thing, and Reach was well ,,, some toss.... basically nobody knew who he was. at least I didn't. to put it in todays context, imagine that if the OSL today would have a bunch of flash, jaedongs, fantasys, yellow amc, ....... and there were only 2 protoss: Bisu and some other guy you've never heard before. as the OSL progresses, Bisu gets his ass handed to him 0-3, leaving the unknown guy as the only P. and he defeats Jaedong and Flash in the semifinals and finals. in Z and T heavly favoured maps. that's pretty much what Reach did back in the day. | ||
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9287
United States134 Posts
On November 19 2009 01:15 BloodDrunK wrote: simple.he's a man and plays toss. that means 50 percent of iccup and b.net are MANTOSS unless they are like 11 years old, then i guess KIDTOSS :O | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On November 19 2009 01:39 lightman wrote: I'm quite sure that Reach won that OSL 3-1, not 3-2. with two games on that island map. btw just curious are you really from Angola ? It's possible, I just remember the series being VERY intense so I assumed the pressure came from the fact that it was the last match. It in fact is 3-1 as you said. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/4323_BoxeR_vs_Reach/vod ^ Go here for the NFZ game and epic Mantossness. Yes. I am the only person with internet in my city. | ||
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Tekin
2711 Posts
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Tom Phoenix
1114 Posts
On November 19 2009 02:00 Tekin wrote: Im quite sure this is the reason why they call him Man Toss Yeah, it seems like most people have forgotten the original reason he was called Mantoss and that was due to his muscular build, which is rather uncommon among progamers. His nicknames related to his gameplay are Spirit Toss (beacuse of the mass suiciding Zealots) and Shaman Toss (due to his impeccable use of Storms). | ||
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ArC_man
United States2798 Posts
On November 19 2009 02:06 Tom Phoenix wrote: Yeah, it seems like most people have forgotten the original reason he was called Mantoss and that was due to his muscular build, which is rather uncommon among progamers. His nicknames related to his gameplay are Spirit Toss (beacuse of the mass suiciding Zealots) and Shaman Toss (due to his impeccable use of Storms). Spirit is Pusan. Reach also has a quote along the lines of "A true man's pride is in his Zealots" or something. Too lazy to look it up, someone will probably post it soon. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
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anch
United States5457 Posts
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FortuneSyn
1826 Posts
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Xeofreestyler
Belgium6768 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On November 19 2009 01:36 fanatacist wrote: The series came down to 3-2 iirc in favor of Reach, last game being on Neo Forbidden Zone. Great game. Forbidden Zone is DEFINITELY not T favoured PvT ;P | ||
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Licmyobelisk
Philippines3682 Posts
 But who cares! Mantoss FIGHTING! | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
-sniff- What a good series :3 | ||
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anch
United States5457 Posts
![[image loading]](http://photos-sf2p.fbcdn.net/v98/205/27/19905908/n19905908_30827556_3062.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://photos-sf2p.fbcdn.net/v98/205/27/19905908/n19905908_30827555_2829.jpg) In my days there were no 1a2a3a son. ![[image loading]](http://photos-sf2p.fbcdn.net/v98/205/27/19905908/n19905908_30766000_1887.jpg) | ||
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ZeroCartin
Costa Rica2390 Posts
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andiCR
Costa Rica2273 Posts
 I must say though, where is Manifesto's reply when you need it? | ||
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Eeevil
Netherlands359 Posts
It was after his prime, but this game was so sick. | ||
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ii.blitzkrieg
Canada1122 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=42563¤tpage=3#48 | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On November 19 2009 02:24 FrozenArbiter wrote: Forbidden Zone is DEFINITELY not T favoured PvT ;P Didn't say it was o_O; | ||
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Neivler
Norway911 Posts
 True story! | ||
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Korea (South)3851 Posts
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boe_N
United States57 Posts
For tournaments, why are the phrases "Pride of War," "Overcome All," and "Victory after Victory" used for T, Z, and P players respectively? Are these based off Korean reporting or are they a TL tradition? | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
On November 19 2009 02:55 Neivler wrote: It was the commentator Cholera who invented it. He was the first to use it and then soon the rest went on the bandwagon True story! No, Cholera just obsesses and abuses it lol. At least it's for comedic effect sometimes. But no he didn't invent it. | ||
DivinO
United States4796 Posts
On November 19 2009 01:15 BloodDrunK wrote: simple.he's a man and plays toss. So I'm TeenZerg. Sounds great! | ||
GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
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cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
On November 19 2009 03:10 boe_N wrote: On a somewhat related note... For tournaments, why are the phrases "Pride of War," "Overcome All," and "Victory after Victory" used for T, Z, and P players respectively? Are these based off Korean reporting or are they a TL tradition? Terran take great pride in the way they turtle and use their imbalanced tanks and irradiate to win games. They have pride in their gay effective war strats. Bisu coined the victory after victory. When he or any protoss loses its map imbalance so it can't count as a fair loss. When he wins its a victory based on how good he is therefore he never losses. Overcome all talks about all the gay things the other 2 races have to overcome just to have a chance of beating zergs. | ||
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ZeroCartin
Costa Rica2390 Posts
On November 19 2009 02:36 ii.blitzkrieg wrote: I thought rekrul coined this? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=42563¤tpage=3#48 omg what an epic thread | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On November 19 2009 01:42 fanatacist wrote: It's possible, I just remember the series being VERY intense so I assumed the pressure came from the fact that it was the last match. It in fact is 3-1 as you said. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/4323_BoxeR_vs_Reach/vod ^ Go here for the NFZ game and epic Mantossness. Yes. I am the only person with internet in my city. Or New Jersey :D | ||
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WhatisProtoss
Korea (South)2325 Posts
On November 19 2009 01:08 fanatacist wrote: Don't make posts like this either, if you want to stay for a while at TL. Also, you can edit previous posts. Leave the [ QUOTE ] tags where they need to be after pressing quote. What are you, a moderator? You're spamming more than those posters...... Manly face, manly plays = Mantoss. And yes, muscular body (though, only relative to other progamers) helps too. | ||
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Weaponx3
Canada232 Posts
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kulik-
Czech Republic305 Posts
Sashin toss also because of popular Anime series Death note... this dt in game vs yellow were exactly like death god | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
and this | ||
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zazen
Brazil695 Posts
Most epic Reach moment in my opinion. Once I actually had a dream that Reach came to my city and gave me some cool korean iphone-like device. I know, abstract, but that was kinda cool. And yeah, it's kinda weird that I'm having dreams about progamers. | ||
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
On November 19 2009 04:50 evanthebouncy! wrote: this + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_5FsB8zCBY and this + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPKlT5ZiZbM Yeah, that latter is pretty manly. I mean your playing against Oov, bomb the shit out of him, then drop 2 templars right on his army and storm it and the only thing that survives is the archon o_O | ||
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
Reach was the only protoss player there | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
He's known as the "Hero Protoss," a name which AFAIK solidifed after he was the only Protoss player to qualify for the Ro16 in IOPS OSL. There was also more than one instance in which he was the only Protoss player to make it to the Ro8 of a Starleague. Basically, when all other toss players failed, Reach was the man to count on to insure a Protoss presence would be felt. | ||
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Elvin_vn
Vietnam2038 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/3866/1036715518vd.jpg) | ||
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kulik-
Czech Republic305 Posts
im hlafly blinded from this manliness | ||
rotinegg
United States1719 Posts
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
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Brewdish
United States17 Posts
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rotinegg
United States1719 Posts
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17726 Posts
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
On November 19 2009 09:59 Ilikestarcraft wrote: hes called man toss because he makes men love him like this person | ||
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Highways
Australia6103 Posts
On November 19 2009 03:10 boe_N wrote: On a somewhat related note... For tournaments, why are the phrases "Pride of War," "Overcome All," and "Victory after Victory" used for T, Z, and P players respectively? Are these based off Korean reporting or are they a TL tradition? It was first used used in the 2005 SO1 OSL Opening. | ||
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himurakenshin
Canada1845 Posts
On November 19 2009 02:09 ArC_man wrote: Spirit is Pusan. Reach also has a quote along the lines of "A true man's pride is in his Zealots" or something. Too lazy to look it up, someone will probably post it soon. That's by Garimto I think. | ||
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Horiz0n
Sweden364 Posts
On November 19 2009 01:15 BloodDrunK wrote: simple.he's a man and plays toss. then how do you explain Tossgirl :D + Show Spoiler + (yea I know she switched for terran since she considered them better at pro-lvl) | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17726 Posts
no it was reach im pretty sure garimto is more like oh you disgraces to protoss hahaha | ||
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Freyr
United States500 Posts
On November 19 2009 02:36 ii.blitzkrieg wrote: I thought rekrul coined this? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=42563¤tpage=3#48 Guys - I'm pretty sure the question is referring to the origin/coinage of the nickname. The post blitzkrieg mentions is the earliest I've ever seen. On August 07 2006 15:44 Rekrul wrote: Koreans usually don't look strangers in the eyes. Atleast thats true for gamers, most don't have very good social skills. At MBC Trials I raped some terran round one. I was feeling pumped and ready for round 2 vs. Reach. I was then walking towards him and he was walking towards me and we made eye contact, he didn't look away, neither did I. I felt the power of the mantoss. There was nothing I could do. He was Reach. I was the first one to break the eye contact. I knew what was coming. Mother fucker raped me twice with ease. This is one of my favorite TL posts. Yes he is a great player, but I think the nickname arose from this post. | ||
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Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
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atm0sphere33
Canada130 Posts
b) He stuck with protoss at a time when the race was considered weak c) He was famous for massing tier 1 units (zeals / goons) and neglecting higher tech units, and just rolling over his opponent with a mass of zealots and dragoons. Somehow he'd always seem to break a terran push by just 1a2a3a. I guess they consider the screw this shit lets attack anything we can find style manly, and thus the name mantoss | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Plus, Reach is just badass in general. Carried the Protoss race on his back whenever Kingdom/rA failed back in the days. | ||
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