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[News] 09-10 Season Rule Changes

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l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-09 17:12:27
October 09 2009 16:25 GMT
#1
09-10 KeSPA Rule Changes!


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▶ Chatting
Players who type anything besides 'gg' or 'GG' are no longer disqualified from the match, but are given a 'warning'. The KeSPA referee's decision is placed higher than this rule.

Ex. If a player accidentally types 'a', he would not be disqualified, but warned. But if a player types something like 'sexsexpussyhair' they can still be disqualified by KeSPA referee's decision.

▶ Complaining
If a coach complaint comes in during a match, the game is paused immediately and the complaint is reviewed. Before, if a coach complained, the referee would listen to the complaint and then decide if the game is going to be paused.

▶ Disqualifications and Removal
If a player or a coach does something that directly effects the game, or hinders the game in any way, must leave the stage to the waiting room. The details are discussed in the waiting room.

▶ "Gather" and "Return Cargo"
The "return cargo" bug to get a worker past another unit has been previously banned. Now they are adding the "gather" command onto the list. A player is only allowed to use "move" to move past other units, not "gather" or "return cargo".***

***NOTE: I think it only affects SCOUTING and for ENEMY UNITS. You can't scout through other units using Gather or Return Cargo to go through units.

Directly from KeSPA website:

On October 10 2009 02:07 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
⑪ 일꾼 비비기 버그 : 정찰을 목적으로 시야가 밝혀지지 않은 상대 진영을 일꾼의 Gather, Cargo 명령을 이용해 입구를 막고 있는 상대 유닛과 비비며, 상대 유닛에 의해 막혀있던 진영을 이동할 수 있는 버그

Worker 'Rubbing' Bug : Glitching through units that are blocking ramps using the 'Gather' and 'Return Cargo' command to get to a location while there is no vision is banned.

This means yes you can still block 4 pool
And yes, using the mineral-click gather-glitch on Destination is STILL valid. Scan rush on Hitchhiker is STILL valid.
This rule only applies for the illegal gather-click glitch and return-cargo glitch on terrain (what Paladin mentioned earlier, eg Nal_rA vs ForGG on Loki).



Source:Fomos

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▶ 채팅 규정
‘gg’, ‘GG’ 이외의 문자 입력 시 ‘몰수패’, ‘주의’가 동시에 내려지던 징계 기준을 ‘구두주의’ 또는 ’주의’ 징계로 완화하고, 채팅과 관련된 사항에서 심판의 재량권이 발휘 되도록 수정되었다.

▶ 이의제기 규정
경기장 현장 이의제기와 경기종료 후 서면을 통한 이의제기에 대한 내용이 보완되었다. 경기 중 감독의 일시 중단 요청 시 심판이 당위성을 판단해 경기를 중지하던 규정을 감독의 일시 중단 요청이 있을 경우 즉시 경기를 중단 시킨 뒤 상황을 파악해 판정을 내리는 규정으로 변경하였다.

▶ 퇴장, 몰수패 규정
경기결과에 직접적으로 영향을 주거나, 경기 진행에 방해가 되는 행위를 행하는 선수, 코칭스태프의 퇴장 이후 대기장소를 ‘선수대기실’로 명기하여 구체적인 퇴장에 대한 내용 및 절차를 마련하였다.

▶ 일꾼 비비기 버그 규정
금지된 버그 중 하나인 자원을 들고 있는 일꾼의 Cargo 명령을 이용한 일꾼 비비기 버그에 Gather 명령을 이용한 일꾼 비비기 버그 내용이 추가 되었다. 추가된 규정을 통해 일꾼의 Move 명령 이외에 Cargo, Gather 명령을 이용한 일꾼 비비기는 금지된다.





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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
October 09 2009 16:30 GMT
#2
REUTRN CARGO IS BANNED? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
October 09 2009 16:31 GMT
#3
no drone drill? what the fuck
Entusman #12
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
October 09 2009 16:32 GMT
#4
Wait, so like you can't stack drones vs zealots? You can't defend sunkens with drones? are you fucking kidding me?
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Jonvvv
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Norway1530 Posts
October 09 2009 16:33 GMT
#5
wow, this is the stupidest thing ever... when i read the last sentence, my face turned from -.^ to O.O
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l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
October 09 2009 16:34 GMT
#6
On October 10 2009 01:32 Chill wrote:
Wait, so like you can't stack drones vs zealots? You can't defend sunkens with drones? are you fucking kidding me?


People are on KeSPA website asking why and they're not getting an answer. It seems like you can't block 4pool anymore.
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Debeli
Profile Joined August 2008
Croatia93 Posts
October 09 2009 16:34 GMT
#7
They banned "gather"? Just using it as a bug or completely?
<ToT)ret(> gogo andromeda <CJ_IdrA[Media]> you win games by making sunkens and ultras <CJ_IdrA[Media]> shut the fuck up
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-09 16:35:02
October 09 2009 16:34 GMT
#8
Is this will affect for example a zerg defending his mineral line against zealots? Or prevent lings from attacking a cannon with probes?
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intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-09 16:36:37
October 09 2009 16:34 GMT
#9
if this means what i think it means, it's absolutely absurd. here are the situations i think of immediately:

- your scout dies, but you click on their mineral patch before you lose vision so your second scout can get in. this has been a staple move since i first started 1v1.
- moving through your own units - can you not maynard through your army, or stack scvs to defend against harass? a funny extreme interpretation would be to not allow scvs to pass through each other after returning their minerals, instead having to be manually moved back LOL
- any sort of drilling, especially for breaking ramps or moving stasis blocks
Moderatorsloppy little slug
imweakless
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
757 Posts
October 09 2009 16:35 GMT
#10
what a bad decision by kespa..drilling is not allowed.. they maybe taking drugs to produce this ridiculous desision.
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n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
October 09 2009 16:35 GMT
#11
On October 10 2009 01:32 Chill wrote:
Wait, so like you can't stack drones vs zealots? You can't defend sunkens with drones? are you fucking kidding me?

Wait.. what, I just select all my drones and click on a patch then click somewhere else... Is whats banned or am I not doing it right?
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
October 09 2009 16:36 GMT
#12
I think this means not a single drill is allowed. Not even dronedrilling a zealot in your mineral line.
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
asdfTT123
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States989 Posts
October 09 2009 16:36 GMT
#13
Look on the bright side...at least you can message "a"!
n.Die_Jaedong <3
fAnTaCy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States893 Posts
October 09 2009 16:37 GMT
#14
First part, pretty awesome, last one is a "WTF" moment
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Teejing
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-09 16:39:15
October 09 2009 16:37 GMT
#15
it is illusionary to think players could stop using these basic commands they have used for thousands of games....

If this rule stays, the game will become much more aggressive again!
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
October 09 2009 16:39 GMT
#16
wait so does this mean you can't maynard workers?
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
pubbanana
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3063 Posts
October 09 2009 16:39 GMT
#17
KeSPA didn't take certain circumstances into account before announcing rule changes. Wow, this never happens.
Wachet, stehet im Glauben, seid männlich und seid stark.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-09 16:41:12
October 09 2009 16:40 GMT
#18
I10f says he found more information, but I'm really doubtful of Kespa doing what the wording seems to imply. They've made some stupid business decisions with regard to dealing with players and some extremely strict enforcement of some rules (rules that are usually understandable), but they've not had precedent (IMO) of touching on accepted, wide-spread game mechanics, so...

Edit:
Then when I finish posting he's taken off the more information part. Arr.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
October 09 2009 16:44 GMT
#19
gogo 4 pool lol
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l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
October 09 2009 16:45 GMT
#20
NOTE: I think it only affects SCOUTING. You can't scout through other units using Gather or Return Cargo to go through units.
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