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okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
October 09 2009 16:45 GMT
#21
Oh wow. The Norwegian Nobel Committee has nothing on KeSPA when it comes to making batshit decisions.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
imweakless
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
757 Posts
October 09 2009 16:46 GMT
#22
4 5 6 or what kind of pool it is will probably work!
KMK,Qri,GsD#1, UEE,stork jangbi for life!
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
October 09 2009 16:47 GMT
#23
▶ "Gather" and "Return Cargo"
The "return cargo" bug to get a worker past another unit has been previously banned. Now they are adding the "gather" command onto the list. A player is only allowed to use "move" to move past other units, not "gather" or "return cargo". *

What? I'm confused
Deathfate
Profile Joined November 2008
Spain555 Posts
October 09 2009 16:47 GMT
#24
Last part cant be true.
Feel the power of the zerg swarm.
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
October 09 2009 16:49 GMT
#25
holy shit have kespa lost their FUCKING MINDS?

I guess there's gonna be alot more agressive play this season now that worker defences are banned. holy shiit.
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
roMAD
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Russia2355 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-09 16:52:58
October 09 2009 16:51 GMT
#26
U guys seem not to understand it correctly. I think it means that SCOUTING with Return Cargo and Gather is not allowed, which has nothing to do with worker drilling move. I remember a game when fOrGG did the same trick against Nal_rA on Loki(?) and he was disqualified. After that i've never seen it happen again, but i might be wrong. I think there's nothing to worry about.
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
October 09 2009 16:52 GMT
#27
Yeah it looks like it's just banned if you use it for scouting purposes. Although netizens are still confused whether it affects if used while blocking a rush.
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Hayarok
Profile Joined December 2008
Israel95 Posts
October 09 2009 16:52 GMT
#28
kespa is so stuped...
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 09 2009 16:53 GMT
#29
PvZ now becomes much more difficult - the zerg can just put 2 lings on their ramp after killing the initial scouting probe and have no reason to get speed.
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
October 09 2009 16:55 GMT
#30
I don't mind this change.
roMAD
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Russia2355 Posts
October 09 2009 16:56 GMT
#31
On October 10 2009 01:52 l10f wrote:
Yeah it looks like it's just banned if you use it for scouting purposes. Although netizens are still confused whether it affects if used while blocking a rush.

imo it's quite obvious it doesn't. There is a bug, when you could glitch your worker through units blocking the ramp with spamming return cargo a lot (see Nal_rA vs fOrGG game i've mentioned before). So i guess KeSPA found out that Gather works too, so they've banned it.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
October 09 2009 16:57 GMT
#32
tbh i don't think these changes make that big of a difference

did people really think they banned worker drilling altogether? come on.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25987 Posts
October 09 2009 16:58 GMT
#33
On October 10 2009 01:51 (paladin)roMAD wrote:
U guys seem not to understand it correctly. I think it means that SCOUTING with Return Cargo and Gather is not allowed, which has nothing to do with worker drilling move. I remember a game when fOrGG did the same trick against Nal_rA on Loki(?) and he was disqualified. After that i've never seen it happen again, but i might be wrong. I think there's nothing to worry about.

That has been banned for years, so obviously that's not what they're talking about.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
October 09 2009 17:01 GMT
#34
On October 10 2009 01:56 (paladin)roMAD wrote:So i guess KeSPA found out that Gather works too, so they've banned it.


Makes sense.
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0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
October 09 2009 17:05 GMT
#35
Well, looks like good decisions across the board, then. Kespa > Nobel.
roMAD
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Russia2355 Posts
October 09 2009 17:06 GMT
#36
On October 10 2009 01:58 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2009 01:51 (paladin)roMAD wrote:
U guys seem not to understand it correctly. I think it means that SCOUTING with Return Cargo and Gather is not allowed, which has nothing to do with worker drilling move. I remember a game when fOrGG did the same trick against Nal_rA on Loki(?) and he was disqualified. After that i've never seen it happen again, but i might be wrong. I think there's nothing to worry about.

That has been banned for years, so obviously that's not what they're talking about.

They added Gather to the ban list. That's how i see it.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-09 17:11:06
October 09 2009 17:07 GMT
#37
⑪ 일꾼 비비기 버그 : 정찰을 목적으로 시야가 밝혀지지 않은 상대 진영을 일꾼의 Gather, Cargo 명령을 이용해 입구를 막고 있는 상대 유닛과 비비며, 상대 유닛에 의해 막혀있던 진영을 이동할 수 있는 버그

Worker 'Rubbing' Bug : Glitching through units that are blocking ramps using the 'Gather' and 'Return Cargo' command to get to a location while there is no vision is banned.

This means yes you can still block 4 pool
And yes, using the mineral-click gather-glitch on Destination is STILL valid. Scan rush on Hitchhiker is STILL valid.
This rule only applies for the illegal gather-click glitch and return-cargo glitch on terrain (what Paladin mentioned earlier, eg Nal_rA vs ForGG on Loki).
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
October 09 2009 17:14 GMT
#38
I think Fomos misinterpreted the rule rofl
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
October 09 2009 17:24 GMT
#39
In the Fomos article, you forgot to translate the part where it was mentioned 'workers holding resources'.

▶ 일꾼 비비기 버그 규정
금지된 버그 중 하나인 자원을 들고 있는 일꾼의 Cargo 명령을 이용한 일꾼 비비기 버그에 Gather 명령을 이용한 일꾼 비비기 버그 내용이 추가 되었다. 추가된 규정을 통해 일꾼의 Move 명령 이외에 Cargo, Gather 명령을 이용한 일꾼 비비기는 금지된다.

▶ Working Glitching Bug update/fix/change
One of the banned bugs was the bug where workers holding resources will use the 'Return Cargo' command to glitch through units blocking the ramp. It is now updated to include 'Return Cargo' AND 'Gather'.

But the last sentence is still very questionable, because it says that "Through this updated rule, other than using the 'Move' command, glitching through units with workers using the 'Return Cargo' and 'Gather' command is banned."

I still think Fomos could have phrased the sentence better. (meaning this is a total misunderstanding)
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25987 Posts
October 09 2009 18:01 GMT
#40
ooooo ok ok =]
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