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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
October 09 2009 18:08 GMT
#41
thanks konda!
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
October 09 2009 18:36 GMT
#42
For a moment I was like WTF. Coming from KeSpa I can believe anything.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
October 09 2009 19:44 GMT
#43
Damn...I was so scared after reading that last rule...glad everyone cleared it up.
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Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
October 09 2009 19:53 GMT
#44
I must say that these are some good updates, looks like there will be no more mess and running arround for 1h when some coach decides to complain.
Also, no more instant DQ for some random letter appearing is a good thing.Kespa takes the right course, finally?
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
October 09 2009 20:00 GMT
#45
On October 10 2009 01:57 Hot_Bid wrote:
did people really think they banned worker drilling altogether? come on.


yeah seriously - ever heard of "lost in translation" guys?
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
October 09 2009 20:02 GMT
#46

▶ Complaining
If a coach complaint comes in during a match, the game is paused immediately and the complaint is reviewed. Before, if a coach complained, the referee would listen to the complaint and then decide if the game is going to be paused.


This is not good thing. Coach can easily interrupt game if other player has good momentum going on.
IceCube
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Croatia1403 Posts
October 09 2009 20:33 GMT
#47
On October 10 2009 05:02 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +

▶ Complaining
If a coach complaint comes in during a match, the game is paused immediately and the complaint is reviewed. Before, if a coach complained, the referee would listen to the complaint and then decide if the game is going to be paused.


This is not good thing. Coach can easily interrupt game if other player has good momentum going on.

My thoughts exactly, much more important to note than that "scouting glich" thing (P.S. thnx for clearing that one up)
Forever Vulture.. :(
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
October 09 2009 20:33 GMT
#48
With the clarifications to the last rule, these seem like excellent changes.
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seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
October 09 2009 20:33 GMT
#49
On October 10 2009 05:02 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +

▶ Complaining
If a coach complaint comes in during a match, the game is paused immediately and the complaint is reviewed. Before, if a coach complained, the referee would listen to the complaint and then decide if the game is going to be paused.


This is not good thing. Coach can easily interrupt game if other player has good momentum going on.


But if his 'complaint' isn't valid then this rule:
If a player or a coach does something that directly effects the game, or hinders the game in any way, must leave the stage to the waiting room. The details are discussed in the waiting room.
takes care of it. He could be reprimanded/removed from the game.
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LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
October 09 2009 21:24 GMT
#50
On October 10 2009 05:33 seppolevne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2009 05:02 Too_MuchZerg wrote:

▶ Complaining
If a coach complaint comes in during a match, the game is paused immediately and the complaint is reviewed. Before, if a coach complained, the referee would listen to the complaint and then decide if the game is going to be paused.


This is not good thing. Coach can easily interrupt game if other player has good momentum going on.


But if his 'complaint' isn't valid then this rule:
Show nested quote +
If a player or a coach does something that directly effects the game, or hinders the game in any way, must leave the stage to the waiting room. The details are discussed in the waiting room.
takes care of it. He could be reprimanded/removed from the game.


Ace match, coach affects the game in some way and gets kick out. His player still increased his advantage.
Doso
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany769 Posts
October 10 2009 00:05 GMT
#51
If a coach REALLY fucks up his player can still get a fcking default loss. Refs are the rules
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 10 2009 00:10 GMT
#52
Wow, I thought that Kespa have changed into something completely new until I saw the worker drill restriction (that people say MIGHT be a mistranslation)
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Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
October 10 2009 14:09 GMT
#53
On October 10 2009 09:05 Doso wrote:
If a coach REALLY fucks up his player can still get a fcking default loss. Refs are the rules


There are always certain reason that coaches can say (like he got information from audience or bad sound proof) and those are hard to proof true or false.
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
October 10 2009 14:18 GMT
#54
hmm what would be an example of the illegal gather/return cargo trick?
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
October 10 2009 14:22 GMT
#55
ForGG versus Nal_Ra on Loki.

Thanks for the clarification Kondara/Romad.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
October 10 2009 14:24 GMT
#56
On October 10 2009 23:18 nosliw wrote:
hmm what would be an example of the illegal gather/return cargo trick?


Go.go versus TT as well, I think, but there's no vod.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/2987_go.go_vs_TT

IIRC I was watching it live. TT was so pissed because the KeSPA ref didn't give him the game. He left so quickly.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
October 10 2009 16:34 GMT
#57
any1 gt the youtube video of the worker glitch???
Macavenger
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1132 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-10 16:49:51
October 10 2009 16:49 GMT
#58
So, if I'm understanding all the updates on the gather thing correctly:

Your scouting probe dies near the enemy mineral line. While you still have vision inside the enemy base, you order another probe to gather the enemy mineral line, causing it to pass through units blocking a ramp. This is still legal.

There's some bug I wasn't previously aware of that allowed you to get up a ramp by spamming gather when you have no vision inside the enemy base at all, similar to the return cargo spam bug. This is now banned.

That about right?

If that's the case, these seem like good changes except for the coach pausing rule. That's very easily abusable to screw with matches. Hopefully that will get reverted sometime soon.
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
October 10 2009 16:57 GMT
#59
At least they got rid of the stupid nothing but gg rule...
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
October 10 2009 16:59 GMT
#60
What about if your scouting probe is in the enemy base with minerals and you use the return cargo command to safely get past zerglings when your probe has been trapped?
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