This is a hack. - Page 5

The only issue I see is that, in many cases, shitty mouse WITH this > (if only slightly) great mouse WITHOUT.

On September 04 2009 12:56 armed_ wrote:

You act as if there's some magic boundary between the computer and its peripherals that makes input modification on one side absolutely okay but a cardinal sin on the other. If a macro that gives you a click mouseup action is not okay, why is a good-quality mouse that's simply mechanically built to rebound quickly okay? It gives exactly the same advantage(actually moreso since it provides greater control.)

Not to mention that realistically this is completely undetectable if done right, so it's simply not feasible to enforce a ban on it in any online setting.

On September 04 2009 12:59 arcology wrote:


Allowing this doesn't leave a good impression of TL. Especially in the eyes of Blizzard. At least close the thread.

On September 04 2009 12:59 arcology wrote:


Allowing this doesn't leave a good impression of TL. Especially in the eyes of Blizzard. At least close the thread.

On September 04 2009 12:57 iSiN wrote:
if it's such a simple fix it may possibly come in a patch they do pay attention to the SC community

On September 04 2009 13:03 zulu_nation8 wrote:
pretty much the same in terms of starcraft.

Wok I think this is a nice program you made, and it will drastically improve gameplay. It's comparable to latency changer. But until Blizzard or ICCUP or someone implements the code and standardizes its use, people should not use it without an explicit agreement between both players.

Talking about the ethical is always hard, but I think most of us can see how this would be unfair to the other player, that it gives one side a competitive edge significant enough to be considered cheating. The edge it gives is much greater than disabling a windows key or playing in a quiet room (wtf?). I hope it will be implemented into the ICC launcher for next season. But until then people should use with caution, that is if you give a shit about the community.

On September 04 2009 12:59 Sadist wrote:



This is exactly what I was trying to say....but you put it much more eloquently.

On September 04 2009 13:06 zulu_nation8 wrote:
this magical boundary is called common sense, and believe me, it exists, i've seen it.

On September 04 2009 13:03 zulu_nation8 wrote:
pretty much the same in terms of starcraft.

Wok I think this is a nice program you made, and it will drastically improve gameplay. It's comparable to latency changer. But until Blizzard or ICCUP or someone implements the code and standardizes its use, people should not use it without an explicit agreement between both players.

Talking about the ethical is always hard, but I think most of us can see how this would be unfair to the other player, that it gives one side a competitive edge significant enough to be considered cheating. The edge it gives is much greater than disabling a windows key or playing in a quiet room (wtf?). I hope it will be implemented into the ICC launcher for next season. But until then people should use with caution, that is if you give a shit about the community.

On September 04 2009 13:04 Sadist wrote:



Dont you understand that this is the same as having good hardware? Why is that such a hard thing to get through to you and the other guy.

On September 04 2009 13:07 armed_ wrote:

*ignorance

I know, it's often easy to confuse the two. :/

On September 04 2009 13:12 zulu_nation8 wrote:


sadist oh my fucking god, just because other people do it, and it's easily done, and that this advantage was not known previously, DOES NOT MEAN IT'S FAIR. YES? And above all it certainly does not mean that we shouldn't reconsider the implications and consequences of this program, the context which surrounds it, just because of the stuff I listed.

If I have aids and everyone around me has aids and I've been spreading it like a motherfucker before I even knew what aids was or did. Now that I know do you think I have a moral obligation to stop spreading it? I hope you think I do.

On September 04 2009 13:12 zulu_nation8 wrote:


sadist oh my fucking god, just because other people do it, and it's easily done, and that this advantage was not known previously, DOES NOT MEAN IT'S FAIR. YES? And above all it certainly does not mean that we shouldn't reconsider the implications and consequences of this program, the context which surrounds it, just because of the stuff I listed.

If I have aids and everyone around me has aids and I've been spreading it like a motherfucker before I even knew what aids was or did. Now that I know do you think I have a moral obligation to stop spreading it? I hope you think I do.

On September 04 2009 13:15 integral wrote:


What a ridiculous analogy.

You should just say that having better hardware is also unfair.

On September 04 2009 13:16 wok wrote:
Iccup can certainly use it. You can't use it on iccup, unless you want your opponent to be like "wtf... I'm reporting you"

Just try it on a blank UDP game.

On September 04 2009 13:19 zulu_nation8 wrote:


I'm talking about putting it into the iccup launcher so everyone who plays iccup uses it by default.

On September 04 2009 13:18 zulu_nation8 wrote:
if having better hardware gives you a competitive edge significant enough to be categorized as unfair then YES. What the fuck is the problem?