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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
strictly speaking no it doesnt, but it mods your computer in a way to give you an advantage in game | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27180 Posts
On September 04 2009 10:49 ghostWriter wrote: I've never had trouble with my keys not reacting properly, although I do try to upgrade stuff like siege upgrade or mines and it doesn't register and I try to lay mines or something and find that it hasn't been upgraded =/ Also, if you're going to reopen the thread, maybe you should change the title back? It was the original title. | ||
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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
On September 04 2009 10:49 dhe95 wrote: This is using 3rd party programs to give you a small advantage. IMO that is still cheating. Yep. Unless...hmm...yeah | ||
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OmgIRok
Taiwan2699 Posts
On September 03 2009 11:09 Kwark wrote: Is there any way I can stop my mouse registering a double click if the clicks are too fast? It's bugged recently and become almost impossible to single click. When I try to single I double and it means I keep stopping probes from mining. You can always go to control panel and change your double-click speed | ||
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wok
United States504 Posts
On September 04 2009 10:49 ghostWriter wrote: I've never had trouble with my keys not reacting properly, although I do try to upgrade stuff like siege upgrade or mines and it doesn't register and I try to lay mines or something and find that it hasn't been upgraded =/ Whether or not this script can help you for that depends on how you upgrade stuff; I don't correct for overlapping hotkeys (though I certainly can). So far, I only correct for a-clicks and p-clicks blocking immediately subsequent hotkeys. After the few days I've been on ban, I've also reconsidered this, and while I certainly can see the opposing viewpoint--that certain people who do not use this will be at a significant disadvantage--I also see that the resulting advantage from using such a script is not absolute. Here is why: Most non-gaming mouses are not designed to automatically rebound after the left or right buttons are depressed. And most event-heavy applications (like games) detect the keydown for hotkeys rather than the full keypress anyway, so this is usually not a problem. In starcraft, however, a "click" is not registered until you release the mouse button, so those of us with mice that don't automatically and quickly send back "keyup" events to the computer are highly out of luck. This script generates no new keystrokes, rather, it only completes an already executed keystroke of the mouse click --saving those few critical milliseconds, making an otherwise prohibitively slow "mouseup" event instantaneous. i know it might be a bit much to claim, but I firmly believe such a script is an equalizer. In terms of click response it puts the bulky crap-mouse user on equal footing with the razer user. | ||
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sexynugget
13 Posts
On September 04 2009 10:49 dhe95 wrote: This is using 3rd party programs to give you a small advantage. IMO that is still cheating. Couldn't anyone come and do this stuff though? I could, in the same way, argue that having a nice computer or a nice keyboard or a precise mouse is an unfair advantage. | ||
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x89titan
Philippines1130 Posts
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wok
United States504 Posts
On September 04 2009 11:03 sexynugget wrote: Couldn't anyone come and do this stuff though? I could, in the same way, argue that having a nice computer or a nice keyboard or a precise mouse is an unfair advantage. This. What I'm trying to say is that if you have a reallly nice mouse, this won't help you very much. If you have a shitty mouse, this will help you a lot. The only issue I see is that, in many cases, shitty mouse WITH this > (if only slightly) great mouse WITHOUT. | ||
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dhe95
United States1213 Posts
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
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sexynugget
13 Posts
On September 04 2009 11:06 dhe95 wrote: But the reason is not everybody does that. If there was some plugin that let everybody have this, then nobody would have an advantage. If say someone gets LAN Latency in a game and someone else doesn't, the one w/o it will have the disadvantage (of course this can never happen, but in this case 1 player is left without what the other player has) You missed my point. People already have small advantages in many ways. I used hardware differences as an example. Is there really a reason that this should be regarded as more than a small advantage that a nice keyboard might provide? | ||
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Thats_The_Spirit
Netherlands138 Posts
On September 04 2009 09:50 Manifesto7 wrote: Unbanned and reopened after internal debate. I personally still find it a fine line between this and programming scripts to run long sequences of commands. It doesn't mod the game at all. This is exactly why I think topics like this should stay open for discussion. It contributes a little to defining that line. | ||
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wok
United States504 Posts
On September 04 2009 11:06 nttea wrote: Someone needs to research this further! i'm very interested and need to know what's going on! Which specific aspect would you like me to research further? The implementation aspect or the ethical dilemma such an implementation is causing? Implementation, at least for the narrow scope of actions for which this applies, is complete. Ethical dilemma is the content of all subsequent posts in this thread after the OP. | ||
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PokePill
United States1048 Posts
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MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
On September 04 2009 10:48 wok wrote: In a separate process the "a" and "p" buttons are captured, after which the user has .5 seconds to execute a click command. If in that .5 seconds a click is executed, it will be instantaneous: i.e. it will not interfere with the next keystroke. And after that click is executed, you are no longer in A or P mode, so you can instantly drag select right? I mean it will only interfere with left click once within that .5 seconds (unless you press A or P again)? So you can A, left click, and immediately click drag? | ||
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wok
United States504 Posts
On September 04 2009 11:11 PokePill wrote: You just doubled my apm. No drag selecting is ;( though I, of course, fixed that in the version I'm waiting on approval to release. | ||
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wok
United States504 Posts
On September 04 2009 11:13 MamiyaOtaru wrote: And after that click is executed, you are no longer in A or P mode, so you can instantly drag select right? I mean it will only interfere with left click once within that .5 seconds (unless you press A or P again)? So you can A, left click, and immediately click drag? You understand correctly. The "instaclick" mode only runs for the shorter of .5 seconds or a click. Edit: sorry for double-post. I'm reaaaalllly bad at remembering the quote syntax, which is strange because it's so freaking simple. | ||
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Thats_The_Spirit
Netherlands138 Posts
On September 04 2009 10:52 lazz wrote: strictly speaking no it doesnt, but it mods your computer in a way to give you an advantage in game Buying a brand new top of the line computer/monitor/mouse will also give you an advantage in game over someone with a crappy mouse/ high delay LCD monitor. | ||
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Simple
United States801 Posts
On September 03 2009 11:09 arb wrote: why do you keep posting things that are related to cheating/hacking in some way? this is how ideas and technological revolutions are born. some of the best security analysts were former hackers/criminals themselves. | ||
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