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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51640 Posts
August 24 2009 07:10 GMT
#21
i'm pretty sure OZ aren't willing to lose 99% of their fanbase.
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baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
August 24 2009 07:11 GMT
#22
Retirement will never be an option. This has to be a negotiation tactic.

Sending a kid abroad cost tons of money. If his parents are negotiating 40 million won worth of salary with Oz, then it's clear they're not super-rich. I don't know about the earning potential in Korea's corporate world, but in the US, Jaedong would be making mid-level manager salary for a major company. Or an experienced engineer should he go into the technical field. Either way, it's possible that his later-life earning potential will never reach his salary at Oz. And this doesn't even take into account the devaluing of money over time.

JD is at a point where he's finally "cashing in", so to speak, on his play and fame. If he really is getting overworkd, Jaedong can always take the "Stork route" and just slack off. And just play WoW and pimping girls in his spare time.
Meh
BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
August 24 2009 07:11 GMT
#23
Maybe I'm in denial but I refuse to believe Jaedong is gonna retire. He just can't, not with such a bright future in progaming still ahead of him.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-24 07:12:10
August 24 2009 07:11 GMT
#24
On August 24 2009 16:11 baubo wrote:
Retirement will never be an option. This has to be a negotiation tactic.


Pretty much. No way he's actually gonna retire haha.

His parents are starting to sound like giant douches :\
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
August 24 2009 07:12 GMT
#25
It looks like Jaedongs parents are trying to play with Oz and its going to be a disaster for Jaedong if Oz doesnt take the bait
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Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
August 24 2009 07:12 GMT
#26
I would miss seeing him play, but education is a good thing and gaming shouldnt be everything in his life.
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riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-24 07:19:59
August 24 2009 07:15 GMT
#27
Yeah, I really don't see him reaching as high up in any other field as he has done in SC. It's not that he's not talented, but to get to #1 in any field is an uphill task, and it doesn't make much sense to withdraw when he is clearly at the peak of his game.

Still, worrying about kids' futures is what parents do, and I understand why they'd want him to qualify. He's doing great now, but history tells us that progamers do fall, and that when they do, they just go completely off the radar. What they say about free time is true as well. He's 19 - he should be out with his friends, not single handedly carrying a pro team by practising 12 hours a day.

In the end it's all about opportunity cost, I guess. I hope he gets to do what he wants though, because that's the most important thing.

Edit: I'm not ruling out that this may be a negotiation tactic at all, just thought I'd take their statement at face value, since it's good to look at it from that perspective as well.
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iPF[Div]
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain572 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-24 07:23:13
August 24 2009 07:16 GMT
#28
Bidding/Offers period: August 21st ~ 25th.

Players informed of bidding teams: August 26th.

^I'm assuming that explains why they haven't been approached by any other teams
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nonduc
Profile Joined May 2009
Russian Federation405 Posts
August 24 2009 07:18 GMT
#29
Professionals are represented by pride, popularity, and right compensation for their performance.
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29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
August 24 2009 07:18 GMT
#30
i dont think anyone can afford JD, hence no teams approaching him
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33651 Posts
August 24 2009 07:18 GMT
#31
On August 24 2009 16:11 baubo wrote:
Retirement will never be an option. This has to be a negotiation tactic.

Sending a kid abroad cost tons of money. If his parents are negotiating 40 million won worth of salary with Oz, then it's clear they're not super-rich. I don't know about the earning potential in Korea's corporate world, but in the US, Jaedong would be making mid-level manager salary for a major company. Or an experienced engineer should he go into the technical field. Either way, it's possible that his later-life earning potential will never reach his salary at Oz. And this doesn't even take into account the devaluing of money over time.

JD is at a point where he's finally "cashing in", so to speak, on his play and fame. If he really is getting overworkd, Jaedong can always take the "Stork route" and just slack off. And just play WoW and pimping girls in his spare time.


For whatever leverage it gives them with OZ, doesn't this actually de-incentivize other teams from giving him offers in the remaining day? At an estimated 300,000,000 won or more to acquire Jaedong (all costs combined), I think the major competitors might as well be happy enough to get rid of him for no cost at all.
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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 24 2009 07:27 GMT
#32
JD COME TO ASU
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-24 07:37:45
August 24 2009 07:29 GMT
#33
When Jaedong retires:
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Realistically though,. What's to stop Jaedong from taking 6 months or so off and coming back to the pro-scene when he turns 20?


Also, can't his parents just encourage him to sign the contract and let him stop practicing for a while, and have him enjoy his time. Sure his skill will deteriorate but hell, Oz will be forced to find other options. It seems his parents are concerned more about Jaedong's well being that about money and I really respect that.

For the sake of e-sports, I think it would be good if some day the details of our negotiations were revealed.



Now I really want to know GODDAMNIT

fuck, if only Jaedong could go back in time and change the past this shit would be better than Lost right now.
General Nuke Em
Profile Joined March 2008
United States680 Posts
August 24 2009 07:30 GMT
#34
Just how much is KESPA involved in the teams? If its actually just like some kind of cabal that can tell teams what to do, I could totally see it going one way or another just based on how much money KESPA thinks JD's participation in e-sports will bring in vs. making an example of him to prevent other players from trying to renegotiate better deals.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-24 07:33:42
August 24 2009 07:32 GMT
#35
On August 24 2009 16:18 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2009 16:11 baubo wrote:
Retirement will never be an option. This has to be a negotiation tactic.

Sending a kid abroad cost tons of money. If his parents are negotiating 40 million won worth of salary with Oz, then it's clear they're not super-rich. I don't know about the earning potential in Korea's corporate world, but in the US, Jaedong would be making mid-level manager salary for a major company. Or an experienced engineer should he go into the technical field. Either way, it's possible that his later-life earning potential will never reach his salary at Oz. And this doesn't even take into account the devaluing of money over time.

JD is at a point where he's finally "cashing in", so to speak, on his play and fame. If he really is getting overworkd, Jaedong can always take the "Stork route" and just slack off. And just play WoW and pimping girls in his spare time.


For whatever leverage it gives them with OZ, doesn't this actually de-incentivize other teams from giving him offers in the remaining day? At an estimated 300,000,000 won or more to acquire Jaedong (all costs combined), I think the major competitors might as well be happy enough to get rid of him for no cost at all.


I don't see how this affect other's team's impression of him. They're not going to just not make an offer on the off-chance that he retires. Especially since it's fairly clear that teams don't have the 300 - 400 million won to throw at him.

I say this is a negotation tactic because the "Free Agency" is so biased towards the original team that players have no leverage. That's why Oz can lowball Jaedong without fear of anyone else getting him.
Meh
genwar
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada537 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-24 07:35:34
August 24 2009 07:35 GMT
#36
Spend 2 more years becoming incredibly famous and winning thousands of dollars and never having to worry about anything in life vs going to university and getting an education and spending the rest of your life in a 9-5 job. Gee his parents are truly great.
geod
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Vietnam450 Posts
August 24 2009 07:37 GMT
#37
How about retire then reparticipate in courages and sign with another team?
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
August 24 2009 07:38 GMT
#38
He shouldn't retire this early he is making good money as a progamer . He will invest it in whatever he likes doing after he is done with progameing .
bellweather
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States404 Posts
August 24 2009 07:40 GMT
#39
On August 24 2009 16:11 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2009 16:11 baubo wrote:
Retirement will never be an option. This has to be a negotiation tactic.


Pretty much. No way he's actually gonna retire haha.

His parents are starting to sound like giant douches :\


I wouldn't be so sure about that. Education is pretty important, culturally, and I can imagine there's some sincerity behind Jaedon'g being overworked and what not. I would be sorely disappointed, but a line needs to be drawn between what is and is not an acceptable level of compensation for someone who works that hard and is an integral part of an institution.
A mathematician is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat which isnt' there. -Charles Darwin
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
August 24 2009 07:46 GMT
#40
On August 24 2009 16:32 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2009 16:18 Waxangel wrote:
On August 24 2009 16:11 baubo wrote:
Retirement will never be an option. This has to be a negotiation tactic.

Sending a kid abroad cost tons of money. If his parents are negotiating 40 million won worth of salary with Oz, then it's clear they're not super-rich. I don't know about the earning potential in Korea's corporate world, but in the US, Jaedong would be making mid-level manager salary for a major company. Or an experienced engineer should he go into the technical field. Either way, it's possible that his later-life earning potential will never reach his salary at Oz. And this doesn't even take into account the devaluing of money over time.

JD is at a point where he's finally "cashing in", so to speak, on his play and fame. If he really is getting overworkd, Jaedong can always take the "Stork route" and just slack off. And just play WoW and pimping girls in his spare time.


For whatever leverage it gives them with OZ, doesn't this actually de-incentivize other teams from giving him offers in the remaining day? At an estimated 300,000,000 won or more to acquire Jaedong (all costs combined), I think the major competitors might as well be happy enough to get rid of him for no cost at all.


I don't see how this affect other's team's impression of him. They're not going to just not make an offer on the off-chance that he retires. Especially since it's fairly clear that teams don't have the 300 - 400 million won to throw at him.

I say this is a negotation tactic because the "Free Agency" is so biased towards the original team that players have no leverage. That's why Oz can lowball Jaedong without fear of anyone else getting him.


I believe he was saying it's incentive for them to not make offers as if Hwaseung doesn't do something he will retire... and then not be a threat to the other teams (aka one less team to worry about). I could be wrong, I only read it by once.
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