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On August 27 2009 08:43 MamiyaOtaru wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2009 01:08 Elegance wrote:
Going overseas to study is a huge stretch for someone as old as Jaedong. As old as him? WTF he is normal college age. He's just going to get older. If he wants a career that will take him overseas and if he wants the language to do that with now would be the time. FFS if he can study English anywhere near as hard as he practices SC, he'll be fine. It didn't take me that long to learn German to the point of being conversant when I moved there, and all I'd had was 4 years in high school and one in college that basically meant squat. He's guaranteed to be farther along in English than I was in German before I went. I had a German roommate, and four months tops (since that's when I went to a different city) I was fine on my own. He'd be fine.
getting a CS degree for a US university has good value in going back to korea to become a programmer, or whatever else he decides to major in.
jaedong would probably be able to get into an ivy league in the US and use that name brand reputation, on top of his own reputation, to secure an awesome job.
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On the topic on learning English, how is it that FBH has good English??
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jaedong's raving will land him a spot at uc santa clara
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Spain555 Posts
I want to know of the total won games of Oz in PL how many of them are jeadong victories... maybe the 60%,70%?
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Katowice25012 Posts
He had 44% of their total wins from rounds 1, 2, 4, and 5 according to my numbers. I wouldn't expect that to go up a ton when you added in WL given the fact that HiyA also had an allkill but it probably would boost it. His wins contributed to ace matches are a little less than people tend to think intuitively but obviously it still a good chunk.
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On August 27 2009 09:21 heyoka wrote:
He had 44% of their total wins from rounds 1, 2, 4, and 5 according to my numbers. I wouldn't expect that to go up a ton when you added in WL given the fact that HiyA also had an allkill but it probably would boost it. His wins contributed to ace matches are a little less than people tend to think intuitively but obviously it still a good chunk.
Actually Hiya had more wins than Jaedong in WL going into the playoffs, but obviously Jaedong's numbers jumped a lot there. But yeah, other than those two Oz had almost nothing.
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On August 27 2009 09:26 Rostam wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2009 09:21 heyoka wrote:
He had 44% of their total wins from rounds 1, 2, 4, and 5 according to my numbers. I wouldn't expect that to go up a ton when you added in WL given the fact that HiyA also had an allkill but it probably would boost it. His wins contributed to ace matches are a little less than people tend to think intuitively but obviously it still a good chunk. Actually Hiya had more wins than Jaedong in WL going into the playoffs, but obviously Jaedong's numbers jumped a lot there. But yeah, other than those two Oz had almost nothing.
jaedong is the best player, but that doesn't mean he will a lot of the wins on the team.
the other players on the team also play games, and they are eliminated before they reach high level players. so the other players play less games, but their win ratio isn't abysmal, because they never get to the point where they play high level players.
jaedong's win ratio is special not just because it is high, but also because it is again very high level players who he is able to beat. for example, my bnet account right now is at 80% win ratio with more than 1000 games total, but that doesn't say anything.
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Jaedong rocks, nothing else to say. He destroys S-class gamers consistently and shows no weakness against mediocre players either.
His parents on the other hand, don't rock.
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On August 27 2009 09:47 Polyphasic wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2009 09:26 Rostam wrote:On August 27 2009 09:21 heyoka wrote:
He had 44% of their total wins from rounds 1, 2, 4, and 5 according to my numbers. I wouldn't expect that to go up a ton when you added in WL given the fact that HiyA also had an allkill but it probably would boost it. His wins contributed to ace matches are a little less than people tend to think intuitively but obviously it still a good chunk. Actually Hiya had more wins than Jaedong in WL going into the playoffs, but obviously Jaedong's numbers jumped a lot there. But yeah, other than those two Oz had almost nothing. jaedong is the best player, but that doesn't mean he will a lot of the wins on the team. the other players on the team also play games, and they are eliminated before they reach high level players. so the other players play less games, but their win ratio isn't abysmal, because they never get to the point where they play high level players. jaedong's win ratio is special not just because it is high, but also because it is again very high level players who he is able to beat. for example, my bnet account right now is at 80% win ratio with more than 1000 games total, but that doesn't say anything.
Yep. Add in also that he plays the most games so he has the least amount of time to prepare for each one. His games are all over the TV and his style and strategies are all much more public than the average player. Then add on the fact that he's the most likely to get sniped -- not only does he naturally have less practice time, but his opponents are more likely to prepare more against Jaedong than they would against an average player.
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so when will we find out whether he retired or signed with oz? is it the 31st?
this sucks both ways,
if JD retires kespa takes a real public relations hit (which is good, they need some sort of reform) but we won't be able to see his zerg greatness for at least a year -_-
and if JD signs with oz, then this FA policy has a good chance of staying intact D:
kespa is really starting to make EA, FIDE, and Congress look like they care about their fan base
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I just saw this... KESPA should have seen this coming when they made their rules.
A player can't be represented by an agent... but you need parental consent. Effectively, that makes the parents agents.
A player must negotiate with the highest bidder... but no team wants a sad, miserable pro gamer mooching around. it's bad for team spirit. So what will the player do? Obviously he will get the word out that he really wants to play for team X, and then all the teams will have a little huddle and everyone else will decide not to bid. I bet that's why nobody has submitted a bid for him.
This is great. If Jaedong threatens to retire, it might force KESPA to rewrite their moronic rules.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
A player can't be represented by an agent...
and this is legal?
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Spain555 Posts
44 % of ratio is abismal it is almost 50%, and a lot of them are aces vs very good players... without him Oz would suck so badly specially since hiya and backho started slumping.
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On August 27 2009 10:14 Roffles wrote:
His parents on the other hand, don't rock.
As much as I'd like to see Jaedong continue playing, I agree with his parents that his treatment has been unfair. The fact is that he is a huge figure for both Hwaseung OZ and Starcraft in general, yet he gets almost no reward. Furthermore, by spending all his hours practising he is sacrificing a lot of future opportunity. The fact is that there is little future for even the best progamers, and KESPA is not going to give him a pension when he is forced to retire from the game some time in his 20s. If I was his parents, I would do exactly the same.
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i would disagree because you can always go to college when your 22.... but you can never be top sc player when your 22...
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