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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
August 25 2009 13:06 GMT
#241
--- Nuked ---
HanN00b
Profile Joined October 2005
Germany1441 Posts
August 25 2009 13:08 GMT
#242
Kinda ridiculous ._:
Team name: Borussia Dortmunds Star(craft) Team (10) (Z)Jaedong (Captain) (7) (P)JangBi (2) (T)Bogus (2) (Z)sAviOr (2) (P)BackHo (0) (Z)YellOw (7) Lecaf Oz
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
August 25 2009 13:24 GMT
#243
On August 25 2009 22:06 randomKo_Orean wrote:
Unless I misinterpreted the fomos article, if jaedong doesn't get any bids and denies Oz's offer, he becomes a semi-progamer for 1 year (meaning he can't play at professional level)


After that, can he sign to any team without the stupid "pay original team insane amount" clause? If so, that might be the smartest option, since he can skip the 140,000,000 deal for a year, then sign for 250,000,000 a year later, while also making it clear that Progamers /= slave labor and that KeSPA is not truly a player's union.
Substandard
Profile Joined October 2008
Italy270 Posts
August 25 2009 13:27 GMT
#244
uh the whole way oz handled this makes me assume they knew or at least suspected that no other team would be willing or able to make an offer on jaedong. I mean as a team they totally depend on Jaedong, yet they offer a comparable small salary and just don't budge from that number. Kinda like they were sure he would have no other choice than to resign with them anyway.
Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
August 25 2009 13:34 GMT
#245
KeSPA for PR. Took down Jaedong and his parents in straight sets.
BeSt/Pure/Canata/Calm - I believe in Doh Jae Wook
gaggar
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada118 Posts
August 25 2009 13:35 GMT
#246
On August 25 2009 22:24 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2009 22:06 randomKo_Orean wrote:
Unless I misinterpreted the fomos article, if jaedong doesn't get any bids and denies Oz's offer, he becomes a semi-progamer for 1 year (meaning he can't play at professional level)


After that, can he sign to any team without the stupid "pay original team insane amount" clause? If so, that might be the smartest option, since he can skip the 140,000,000 deal for a year, then sign for 250,000,000 a year later, while also making it clear that Progamers /= slave labor and that KeSPA is not truly a player's union.



you need to wait 1 year as a semi-pro if renecotiation fails with oz.


but then after 1 year of no camp schedules, televised matches, trophies or anything, jd might lose his edge, or worse yet, jd may not find a team due to said reasons.

only league semi-pro is allowed to participate is wcg.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10697 Posts
August 25 2009 14:09 GMT
#247
I hope he just says fuck you and retires.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
August 25 2009 14:19 GMT
#248
On August 25 2009 23:09 Velr wrote:
I hope he just says fuck you and retires.

Yeah, otherwise there's zero incentive for Kespa to change anything. It's comprised of business people and it worked out exactly in their favor.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
August 25 2009 14:26 GMT
#249
On August 25 2009 23:09 Velr wrote:
I hope he just says fuck you and retires.

imho the best option is to enlist ACE but its too early for him as far as I know
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
August 25 2009 14:26 GMT
#250
On August 25 2009 23:09 Velr wrote:
I hope he just says fuck you and retires.


Nothing is going to change otherwise.

Very sad day for progaming.
"Jinro soo manly wearing only a T-Shirt while the Koreans freeze in their jackets" -- Double_O
"He's from Sweden, man. We have to fight polar bears on our way to school." -- Yusername
TheRecliner
Profile Joined April 2009
Sweden103 Posts
August 25 2009 14:28 GMT
#251
On August 25 2009 22:35 gaggar wrote:
only league semi-pro is allowed to participate is wcg.

With GOM being unaffiliated with KESPA, can he play there as well?
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 25 2009 14:30 GMT
#252
On August 25 2009 22:24 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2009 22:06 randomKo_Orean wrote:
Unless I misinterpreted the fomos article, if jaedong doesn't get any bids and denies Oz's offer, he becomes a semi-progamer for 1 year (meaning he can't play at professional level)


After that, can he sign to any team without the stupid "pay original team insane amount" clause? If so, that might be the smartest option, since he can skip the 140,000,000 deal for a year, then sign for 250,000,000 a year later, while also making it clear that Progamers /= slave labor and that KeSPA is not truly a player's union.


its a year though, thats 3 osl, msl's he could win...
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
ForSC2
Profile Joined June 2009
United States580 Posts
August 25 2009 14:30 GMT
#253
I hope Jaedong does retire. Oz would get what it deserves, Kespa would be burned down, and Jaedong gets to be remembered forever as what may have been. The best player ever that left at his greatest moment.

Seriously, what was it like when Anytime retired prematurely to the air force? This seems like history repeating itself only no one gave a shit about Anytime because he wasn't on top and they had Jaedong anyway.

Some days I think Korea is completely retarded. When you look at this joke that is Kespa, you see KTF coming up with names worse then a monkey could, MBC selling it's captain, star player, and star assistant coach apparently, (To become the joke that they are now, wtf did they think was gonna happen.) to the numerous human rights violations that is pro starcraft.

Jaedong should retire. Starcraft doesn't deserve Jaedong.
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=2883#comic
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 25 2009 14:30 GMT
#254
On August 25 2009 23:28 TheRecliner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2009 22:35 gaggar wrote:
only league semi-pro is allowed to participate is wcg.

With GOM being unaffiliated with KESPA, can he play there as well?


they would be retarded to not let him in
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 25 2009 14:32 GMT
#255
On August 25 2009 22:06 randomKo_Orean wrote:
Unless I misinterpreted the fomos article, if jaedong doesn't get any bids and denies Oz's offer, he becomes a semi-progamer for 1 year (meaning he can't play at professional level)


A year from now most of the pro-scene will be playing / gearing for SC2.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Elegance
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada917 Posts
August 25 2009 16:08 GMT
#256
Going overseas to study is a huge stretch for someone as old as Jaedong. First, there is the language barrier, second, there is no parental control and he will most likely just do whatever the fuck he wants (some guy i knew, turned from a nice guy into a guy who everyone hated, did drugs, had sex to the point where he was kicked out of here). Third, he will most likely just chill with Koreans due to the language barrier which is kind of pointless because you can't learn english that way. Fourth, he is Jaedong so he is likely going to get quite a bit of attention from Koreans, who will be like "zomg master" so why leave Korea in the first place? Just my opinion.
Power of Ze
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
August 25 2009 16:09 GMT
#257
On August 26 2009 01:08 Elegance wrote:
Going overseas to study is a huge stretch for someone as old as Jaedong. First, there is the language barrier, second, there is no parental control and he will most likely just do whatever the fuck he wants (some guy i knew, turned from a nice guy into a guy who everyone hated, did drugs, had sex to the point where he was kicked out of here). Third, he will most likely just chill with Koreans due to the language barrier which is kind of pointless because you can't learn english that way. Fourth, he is Jaedong so he is likely going to get quite a bit of attention from Koreans, who will be like "zomg master" so why leave Korea in the first place? Just my opinion.

Jaedong has decent English fyi.
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Elegance
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada917 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-25 16:21:34
August 25 2009 16:12 GMT
#258
Learning any kind of english in Korea is basically nothing. I got about 3-4 years of English education in Korea before i left, and all i knew how to say was Hello, My name is ______

EDIT: Sorry about all the negativity, but I don't want anyone else to suffer what ive gone through for about a year, as well as many others who have had this happen to them for much longer.
Power of Ze
MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
August 26 2009 23:43 GMT
#259
On August 26 2009 01:08 Elegance wrote:
Going overseas to study is a huge stretch for someone as old as Jaedong.

As old as him? WTF he is normal college age. He's just going to get older. If he wants a career that will take him overseas and if he wants the language to do that with now would be the time. FFS if he can study English anywhere near as hard as he practices SC, he'll be fine. It didn't take me that long to learn German to the point of being conversant when I moved there, and all I'd had was 4 years in high school and one in college that basically meant squat. He's guaranteed to be farther along in English than I was in German before I went. I had a German roommate, and four months tops (since that's when I went to a different city) I was fine on my own. He'd be fine.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
August 26 2009 23:46 GMT
#260
I bet no one in his family/immediate circle thought he should learn some english before going over seas.....-_-. Why do people make big deals about stuff they have zero information on.
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